Need help with overlocking

[ousa]

A newbi

Need help with overlocking my System

SYSTEM
MSI K8M NEO-V MOBO
Amd 64 athlon 3200+ Proc
1.5 gb ddr sdram (1 chip 1 gb,1 chip 512 mb)both running at 200 mhz max speed
nvidia gforce fx5200 agp 8x Card.

[cauzomb]

A newbi

Welcome to networktechs! So, what we were talking about at astro_chicken is that your OC is limmited by the stability of your fsb and dram, your board allows a pretty good amount of adjustability, a bit too much from what I gathered in the manual with all the dynamic overclocking, cool and quiet mode etc.. It's easier to stick with just the adjustability of the FSB, MEMORY, and CPU multiplier. We were getting confused a bit about what your OC results were when you said you were using 210X11, your only upping the FSB by 10, so your cpu overclock will be rased very little compared to what I was trying to explain with a higher fsb and lower multiplier. The big brick wall you run into is that your motherboard doesn't provide an HTT frequency adjustment, whithout being able to adjust the HTT in the bios you won't be able to OC higher than your memory will run stable using the fsb adjustment. If you could find software to give you HTT options, say in the form of a bios update or a windows utility you can get a much higher OC. Some people are getting 2.4-2.8ghz at standard voltage with the stock AMD heatsink.

[cauzomb]

ok so in the bios screen for adjusting your fsb and multiplier, it should go like this, turn off dynamic overclocking, turn off cool n quiet mode, enable dram clock and lower it to ddr 333, set the cpu multiplier to 6x and then set the fsb to 200, then check to see if it boots, while it is booting take note of the processor speed. It should show 1200mhz or 2000+ or something like that, once you test that it will load and work try stepping up the multiplier to 7x. Repeat the boot test, note the processor speed and post the results here. When you get to 8x with successfull boot and testing, try upping the FSB from 200 to 210 and retest it. note the cpu speed listed when it is booting, test the performance out, if it is stable try going to 220. to get 2.4 ghz you will need 240fsb and 10x multiplier.

[ousa]

u there?

[ousa]

im so sorry i was really busy for last 2 hrs i cudnt even get to u.

[ousa]

sorry but how to note the processor speed while booting? and how to enable dram clock? ive seen no option to enable it or disable it.

[ousa]

Alright !!! Settings on my system currently (Y = YES/ENABLED AND N = NO/DISABLED)

dram timing control - cas latency (default spd) set to 3.

agp fast write enabled

H/W Monitor:-

sys temp - 43*c/109*f
cpu temp - 59*c/143*f
cpu fan speed - 3629 rpms
sys fan speed - 0 rpms (Y IS IT 0?)
VCORE - 1.612 V
+12.0V - 11.969V - 12.03V
-12.0V - -11.828V
+5.0V - 5.109V
BATTERY - 3.018V

CellMenu:-

Cool 'n' quiet - n
spread spectrum - n
cpu ratio - 10x
dynamic overlocking - n
cpu FSB clock - 240 MHZ
dram clock mode - Manual
dram clock - ddr 333 (as u suggested)
agp voltage Adjust(v) - Default Auto (Set to 1.70)(1.55 to 1.85 max values available)(ON Yellow=HIGH PERFORMANCE)(RED = RISKY)
dram voltage adjust(v) - Default 2.60 (Set to 2.70)(2.55 to 2.85 max values available)(ON YELLOW=HIGH PERFORMANCE)(RED = RISKY)

SYSTEM NOW = AMD 64 ATHLON 3200+ @2.4 GHZ AFTER OVERLOCKING (20% OVERLOCKED,240 X 10 AS U SAID)DRAM CHANGED TO DDR 333 INSTEAD OF 400.WHY? CANT WE USE 400?

THIS IS IT.
BEFORE I PUT THE VOLTAGE TO STOCK AND MY SYSTEM DIDNT BOOT PROPERLY,IT GAVE AN ERROR AND RESTARTED.THE CAS LATENCY WAS SPD B4.

AFTER THIS I CHANGED THE CAS LATENCY TO 3 AND DRAM VOLTAGE AND AGP VOLTAGE TO 1.70 AND 2.70 RESPECTIVELY.THEN EVERYTHING WORKED AND ITS STABLE.EVEN I TRIED PLAYING UT04 FOR HALF HOUR ONLINE WITH MAXIMUM PLAYERS BUT IS ALWAYS STABLE.

[ousa]

Field Value
CPU Properties
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64 3400+
CPU Alias Newcastle S754
CPU Stepping DH-CG
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
CPUID Revision 00000FC0h

CPU Speed
CPU Clock 2400.43 MHz
CPU Multiplier 10.0x
CPU FSB 240.04 MHz (original: 200 MHz, overclock: 20%)
Memory Bus 200.04 MHz

CPU Cache
L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)
L1 Data Cache 64 KB (ECC)
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)

Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 63-1013-009999-00101111-040201-VIA_K8$1XXXX000_A7032VMS V3.3 101304
Motherboard Name MSI K8M Neo-V (MS-7032) (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 2 DDR DIMM, Audio, Video, LAN)

Chipset Properties
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8380 K8M800, AMD Hammer
Memory Timings 3-3-3-7 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR) 1T

SPD Memory Modules
DIMM1: 512UFURTSNAB 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
DIMM2: 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)

BIOS Properties
System BIOS Date 10/13/04
Video BIOS Date 01/10/05
DMI BIOS Version Version 07.00T

Graphics Processor Properties
Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
GPU Code Name NV34 (AGP 8x 10DE / 0322, Rev A1)
GPU Clock 250 MHz
Memory Clock 182 MHz

[cauzomb]

Nice results for a newcastle! I was sleeping, so that's why I didn't respond earlier. When I asked that you take note of the cpu speed shown durring boot, as soon as your computer loads right after power up, it should show a videocard bios boot screen discribing the videocard model and bios information, then it goes into the motherboard POST (power on self test) where it checks the bios settings, display's information about what processsor is installed and how much memory is installed before it starts scanning for drives.. usually when it gets to the memory check, you should already see some information about the processor listed somewhere above that. If your cpu fsb adjustment worked the cpu information changes with your overclock setting, that is all you need to notice "if it changed or not" when it doesn't work, from setting the OC too high it will reset to a much slower speed after you restart the computer, you need to go back into the bios and change the setting/usually something lower or default, save the setting then reboot. If it doesn't restart at a lower speed, and you get a blank screen with the reset button you might have to use the clear cmos jumper or like you said before, remove the battery..

Everything looks good with your setup, see how your memory modules have a listing of 2.5 3 3 7 at 166 TRY THAT ddr333 "166" with memory timings set to 3 3 3 8, at fsb 240x10 and fsb 250x10

[cauzomb]

ahh oops, you got that covered in your last post!! so good deal then, I was looking through the manual and MSI states that there are some rules at the maximum speed you can run DRAM at according to the type of dram, single sided, double sided etc... it will allow you to use pc3200 ram at full speed ddr400, fsb200 if you have more than one stick, they both need to be single sided memory modules to run at ddr400.