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    Kerry Brown Guest

    Re: How can I tell if a keylogger got added to my PC while I was in Beijing?

    "Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@TROUSERSspamcop.net> wrote in message
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    > Kerry Brown wrote:
    >>
    >> If the laptop fully supports bitlocker and bitlocker is used, physical
    >> access won't help you gain access to the contents of the hard drive.

    >
    > While I understand your point, you're still wrong. If you have physical
    > access you can clone the drive and spend as long as you want cracking
    > encryption.



    Theoretically yes. In the real world - good luck.

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    Mark McIntyre Guest

    Re: How can I tell if a keylogger got added to my PC while I wasin Beijing?

    Kerry Brown wrote:
    > "Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@TROUSERSspamcop.net> wrote in message
    > news:5ZqOk.72594$yq3.53462@en-nntp-07.am2.easynews.com...
    >> Kerry Brown wrote:
    >>>
    >>> If the laptop fully supports bitlocker and bitlocker is used,
    >>> physical access won't help you gain access to the contents of the
    >>> hard drive.

    >>
    >> While I understand your point, you're still wrong. If you have
    >> physical access you can clone the drive and spend as long as you want
    >> cracking encryption.

    >
    > Theoretically yes.


    No, IRL.

    > In the real world - good luck.


    And its not like the chinese govt have access to supercomputers.
    Remember, this thread is all about paranoia.

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    Kerry Brown Guest

    Re: How can I tell if a keylogger got added to my PC while I was in Beijing?

    "Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@TROUSERSspamcop.net> wrote in message
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    > Kerry Brown wrote:
    >> "Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@TROUSERSspamcop.net> wrote in message
    >> news:5ZqOk.72594$yq3.53462@en-nntp-07.am2.easynews.com...
    >>> Kerry Brown wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> If the laptop fully supports bitlocker and bitlocker is used, physical
    >>>> access won't help you gain access to the contents of the hard drive.
    >>>
    >>> While I understand your point, you're still wrong. If you have physical
    >>> access you can clone the drive and spend as long as you want cracking
    >>> encryption.

    >>
    >> Theoretically yes.

    >
    > No, IRL.
    >
    > > In the real world - good luck.

    >
    > And its not like the chinese govt have access to supercomputers.
    > Remember, this thread is all about paranoia.



    Ahh - if you're talking about the Chinese government they would just use the
    secret imbedded Manchurian chip they install on all electronics manufactured
    in China to access the data.

    Anything's possible but AFAIK even a supercomputer wouldn't be able to brute
    force AES in any sort of useful time frame.

    --
    Kerry Brown
    MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
    http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
    http://vistahelpca.blogspot.com/





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    Mark McIntyre Guest

    Re: How can I tell if a keylogger got added to my PC while I wasin Beijing?

    Kerry Brown wrote:
    > "Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@TROUSERSspamcop.net> wrote in message
    >>
    >> And its not like the chinese govt have access to supercomputers.
    >> Remember, this thread is all about paranoia.

    >
    > Anything's possible but AFAIK even a supercomputer wouldn't be able to
    > brute force AES in any sort of useful time frame.


    Mind you, they said that about DES, once upon a time. And more recently,
    about SSL. And all this assumes good quality passphrases and good
    implementations of the enc algo.

    a.i.w snipped from the newsgroups as its not relevant there.



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    AMUN Guest

    Re: How can I tell if a keylogger got added to my PC while I was in Beijing?


    "Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@TROUSERSspamcop.net> wrote in message
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    > Kerry Brown wrote:
    >> "Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@TROUSERSspamcop.net> wrote in message
    >>>
    >>> And its not like the chinese govt have access to supercomputers.
    >>> Remember, this thread is all about paranoia.

    >>
    >> Anything's possible but AFAIK even a supercomputer wouldn't be able to
    >> brute force AES in any sort of useful time frame.

    >
    > Mind you, they said that about DES, once upon a time. And more recently,
    > about SSL. And all this assumes good quality passphrases and good
    > implementations of the enc algo.
    >
    > a.i.w snipped from the newsgroups as its not relevant there.
    >



    Why is everyone just ignoring the obvious that since most computers and
    boards are MADE in China, they may already be infected before you buy them.




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