Dustin Cook wrote:
> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>>>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>>>>>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> siljaline wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The evil genius of XP Antivirus 2008
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...omy_of_a_hack/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Silj
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I love XP Antivirus 2008, This thing is everywhere, I have
>>>>>>>>>> been getting calls to remove it two three a day on a good
>>>>>>>>>> week. Well it is good for me but bad for my customers, I did
>>>>>>>>>> not read the whole article but, this thing comes in a few
>>>>>>>>>> variations. some are easy and just are removed with a scan in
>>>>>>>>>> safe mode, others, disable regedit, task manager, system
>>>>>>>>>> restore, Windows update and control panel. The latter is
>>>>>>>>>> usually a 90 min removal, but only because most of my
>>>>>>>>>> customers have sub $800.00 PC's and they tend to be slow. I
>>>>>>>>>> charge $60.00 an hour, (around here that is almost half the
>>>>>>>>>> charge of the other local computer repair shops..
>>>>>>>>>> It is very easy to get infected with this one...
>>>>>>>>>> Clark...
>>>>>>>>>> WCFP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 90 minute removal? Malwarebytes AntiMalware can cut that down
>>>>>>>>> for you. Of course, you wouldn't be able to exploit people so
>>>>>>>>> easily then...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OH by the way thanks for accusing me of exploiting my
>>>>>>>> customers, no wonder folks don't like you...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heh, some folks don't like me due to my past activities; and if
>>>>>>> it took you 90 minutes to deal with a trojan, You'd really be
>>>>>>> screwed and out of your league dealing with ANY of my former
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yes, As far as I'm concerned; and by your own post, You are
>>>>>>> exploiting people. Personal Attacks aside. You remind me of one
>>>>>>> of those punk ass college educated doesn't know a ****ing thing
>>>>>>> outside the classroom technician that I once had to train to
>>>>>>> reload windows without formatting the ****ing hard disk....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seriously dude, if a trojan can beat you, your in the wrong
>>>>>>> field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Dustin,
>>>>>> I charge by the hour, I'm on the road most of the day, my hours
>>>>>> of operation are 8am to 7pm Mon-Sat
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to do that, now I'm a bit selective with clients I will
>>>>> bother with. If the client doesn't care about his data, bestbuy
>>>>> will do them just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I own two homes, worth about $500,000.00, I own three SUV's, Jeep
>>>>>> Grand Cherokee (limited) a Jeep Wrangler. and a Santa Fe,
>>>>>
>>>>> Great! You have titles to all of these, or does the bank? Where I
>>>>> live, the vehicle isn't really mine if I don't have the title in
>>>>> hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I be impressed by your choice of vehicles? Or the amount of
>>>>> them that you have? I Guess I'm wondering what if anything your
>>>>> vehicles have to do with your fleecing, Except to say you seem to
>>>>> be doing well.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am a former DBA for a large bank, now part of BankNorth.
>>>>>> I have been in business for myself for over eight years and I
>>>>>> have never been busier.
>>>>>
>>>>> Great. While you've spent time for the last, 8 years, learning how
>>>>> to run a small business; I've been doing the stuff your still
>>>>> learning to do, for much much longer...Anyways, this isn't a
>>>>> pissing contest to me...
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose I attacked you personally. It's just that well, I get
>>>>> the impression from your posts that your one of these guys who
>>>>> will dump the box and its contents if you really get stuck, and I
>>>>> just don't like people who are quick to resort to that... It
>>>>> doesn't show skill nor expertise, your just starting over because
>>>>> you couldn't fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> What other profession gives you such an escape route if your even
>>>>> slightly incompetent? I think you understand the point I'm trying
>>>>> to make here.
>>>>>
>>>>> You shouldn't make assumptions of people based on some rather
>>>>> ignorant persons comments about myself. And, no, Your chronogical
>>>>> age doesn't really even come into play. I have valid certs in IT,
>>>>> what is it exactly you have, mr small business owner?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sure you have been busy, plenty to go around with the malware
>>>>> and tons of new users to the internet. Work won't go away anytime
>>>>> soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not liked primarly as I said due to a not so good past..I
>>>>> chose to take advantage of peoples ignorance, almost the same as
>>>>> you, only difference being, I didn't profit financially from any
>>>>> of it. It was very poor of me, cost people alot of money and
>>>>> basically, I'm still considered by many, and I suppose rightfully
>>>>> so, to be one evil ****. Some have learned that I'm not the same
>>>>> as I once was, but I know not everyone is exactly welcome to me
>>>>> with open arms.. A shotgun or something mebbe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I cannot control the speed of a customers PC, plain and simple,
>>>>>> and it comes down to that every time.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can do things to improve a systems overall responsiveness,
>>>>> besides selling them more ram at a 20% markup, I meant.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I average $120.00 per appointment, and that is with discounts for
>>>>>> *scan time* as sometimes I can be in a customers house for three
>>>>>> hours. Locally the Best Buy or Staples charges $100.00 for a
>>>>>> format and install of XP, *with no backup* of information, and
>>>>>> nothing else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps thats the average going rate where you live... We didn't
>>>>> even charge that where I was employed for the last 10 years, and I
>>>>> certainly dont bill that high unless alot of driving is
>>>>> involved... But, that's a personal choice. Demographics and
>>>>> such...
>>>>>
>>>>>> When we are talking about Antivirus 2008 PLUS the other
>>>>>> infections on a PC we are not talking about a *simple* Trojan...
>>>>>
>>>>> But they are, really. They typically aren't capable of self
>>>>> replication. Some hide better than others, and occasion you may
>>>>> have to replace a file or two,, but otherwise, to any experienced
>>>>> person, they can be removed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> My avg removal of virus, spyware,adware, is usually around 500,
>>>>>> to 1000 files, my record is 40,000 on one PC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, AVG has a high FP rate...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also guarantee my work, if I missed a part of the Virus and the
>>>>>> system re-infects , I clean it again free of charge, (I had to do
>>>>>> that ONCE years ago)
>>>>>
>>>>> a virus? XPantivirus isn't a virus, it's a trojan.... Really.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a very important distinction. One can be much ****ing harder
>>>>> to deal with, aside from resorting to good backups. And the other
>>>>> is easier to render inoperative.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to go now I'm booked for the day, I have two residential
>>>>>> calls and one commercial appointment,
>>>>>> I should make about $400.00 as I should have about 6.5 billable
>>>>>> hours today (out of ten or eleven worked), which is not as much
>>>>>> as you might think when you take out gas, advertising, and other
>>>>>> consumables..
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering it's all a tax writeoff for you, I don't sympathize
>>>>> with initial cost. I bet your claiming oil changes and such
>>>>> too?
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW MalwareBytes does *not* work on the UltimateBoot4win CD, why
>>>>>> don't you get to fixing that??? *NOW*
>>>>>> Clark...
>>>>>
>>>>> MalWarebytes shouldn't be on that CD, as it's not a portable
>>>>> application. I can't control what people decide to include on
>>>>> their cds. And btw, I am not the author of MalwareBytes; Just a
>>>>> researcher. BugHunter is mine, for the record. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, yup Bug hunter is yours, I looked up the E-mail I sent you a
>>>> while back,
>>>
>>> No Problem.
>>>
>>>> I never use it, I must admit, but I don't use Malwarebytes either,
>>>> BUT I assumed you could contact the programers at Malwarebytes
>>>> and set everything straight for them since your such a fricken
>>>> genuis,
>>>
>>> While I do appreciate your wiseass remark regarding my intelligence,
>>> it's not as simple as you seem to think. MalWareBytes is maintained
>>> by several individuals, and has several language translations. Any
>>> change of significance to the engine requires input from ALL
>>> programmers, and some things for portability are just not a priority
>>> at the moment. This issue has been discussed at length for sometime
>>> on the forums and in private conversations between myself and the
>>> others involved, it's a huge undertaking. The application was never
>>> intended to be portable. It's not a simple utility like BugHunter.
>>>
>>> Eventually we plan to offer a portable version, but as I said, not
>>> at this time.
>>>
>>>> so I'm sure it will only take a second since I'm SURE you can clean
>>>> a Dell with a Pentium III and 128 megs of RAM with XP installed on
>>>> it in like 2 minutes....(I told you I have customers with slow PCs)
>>>> and yes
>>>
>>> 2 minutes? For XP antivirus, that can be done, yes. Lesson time.
>>>
>>> 1. Acquire a bartpe disc.
>>> 2. Boot machine from bartpe.
>>> 3. Find the files associated; Most are hard coded filenames. I know
>>> most of the variants by heart now... heh 4. Delete the files.
>>> 5. Mount the infected systems software hive in barts regedit. you
>>> know how right, mr computer fixer? 6. Edit relevant registry
>>> entries.
>>>
>>> options for even faster:
>>>
>>> Boot bart, reconfigure bughunter for non recursive quick scan, hunt
>>> the windows folder, then edit the registry. That should satisfy your
>>> anal 2 minute scan time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bart PE boot disk or the Ultimate boot disk is one of my favorite
>> tools, Thank god for the folks that have put that thing together, I
>> donate to them on a regular basis....
>
> It's a kickass skeleton.
>
>> but on a PIII with 128megs of RAM it takes at least 2 min to boot to
>> the CD. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> *sigh* Humour isn't a strong point for you, eh?
>
>
>> And your right I'm an incompetent ass that over charges his dummy
>> clients and rips them off
>
> I suspect in a certain set of areas, your perhaps, slightly ignorant,
> yes. But, you can still be taunt. As far as ripping people off, hey, I
> do the same stuff you do, or probably did at some point... *shrug*,
> I've been in this a long time. Seen many computer shops come and go,
> because some individuals seemed to believe they had what it takes to
> diagnose software and hardware these days and not confuse the two.
> Don't misunderstand, Not all computer shops have this problem; I have
> much respect for a fellow IT person whom I know in person, in fact,
> we live close to one another; but as an individual who's money
> hungry, I can't stand him. He does have respectable skills however.
>
> Now, when I first knew him, he was as n00b to it all as you could
> possibly be, but as time progressed and he gained more real world
> actual hands on experience, he got really good. I'm harsh on people,
> and very hard on many. It's the way I am. However, I think more good
> comes from it then bad. Due to our friendship, the fellow IT guy,
> gave him a great career earning money with the us government. I
> pushed him. Always one upped him. Now, at this point in the game, he
> can exceed me in some areas, flat outright. If your irked enough by
> me, you could do the same and be one kickass ****ing IT person
> yourself. And no, I'm not being a wiseass with you. I did that in the
> last post.
>
> Every so often, you will come across the FAQ for alt.privacy.spyware,
> I strongly encourage you to read the section on where to submit
> hijackthis logs. Some of those places offer excellent resources,
> training, knowledge and a fine set of tools to assist you.
>
>
>> I used to stick up for you buddy but I am done with you, Go finish
>> off that bottle of booze your drinkin.
>
> I don't drink.
>
>> Clark...
>> (you never noticed I misspelled genius)... grin.....
>
> *shrug*. If you really think I didn't pull a low shot for a spelling
> foobar was bad on my part, that's alright with me.

DUDE get off my ass!

I have been working with computers since Commodore 64,
I used to be a DBA for a large bank out here on the east coast USA (the
greatest country in the world btw)
I had 3 servers, and back then we had frame relay, I had 7 PC's and I
actually had an office in the server area which was the second most secure
place in the bank, (I needed access to the servers allot so it made sense)
that area was climate controlled, humidity the whole nine yards..
I was offered jobs from other companies and was pretty damn good at what I
did, the software we used was put out by a company named On Base,
(AND I'M GOOD AT WHAT I DO NOW)
here is a link, https://www.onbase.com/english/index.aspx
I was once told in a conference call (with the CFO senior VP's etc)., that I
was the best DBA they had nation wide, We had other banks sending reps up to
me so I could demo the software for them, as I was doing things with the
database no one else was (at the time)
The database was a million $ to purchase and install.
I got laid off when we were bought up by BankNorth, I could have kept my job
but was unwilling to move.
They kept me on for almost a year so I could help them migrate the database.
I took a year off and started my business
Are fricken jealous or what???
or are you a hater?
Look why don't you just do your bughunter crap (that I don't care for) and
leave me alone?

thanks a bunch, hugs and kisses!!
Clark