"Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>>>>
>>>>> siljaline wrote:
>>>>>> The evil genius of XP Antivirus 2008
>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...omy_of_a_hack/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Silj
>>>>>
>>>>> I love XP Antivirus 2008, This thing is everywhere, I have been
>>>>> getting calls to remove it two three a day on a good week.
>>>>> Well it is good for me but bad for my customers, I did not read
>>>>> the whole article but, this thing comes in a few variations.
>>>>> some are easy and just are removed with a scan in safe mode,
>>>>> others, disable regedit, task manager, system restore, Windows
>>>>> update and control panel. The latter is usually a 90 min removal,
>>>>> but only because most of my customers have sub $800.00 PC's and
>>>>> they tend to be slow. I charge $60.00 an hour, (around here that
>>>>> is almost half the charge of the other local computer repair
>>>>> shops..
>>>>> It is very easy to get infected with this one...
>>>>> Clark...
>>>>> WCFP.
>>>>
>>>> 90 minute removal? Malwarebytes AntiMalware can cut that down for
>>>> you. Of course, you wouldn't be able to exploit people so easily
>>>> then...
>>>
>>> OH by the way thanks for accusing me of exploiting my customers, no
>>> wonder folks don't like you...
>>
>> Heh, some folks don't like me due to my past activities; and if it
>> took you 90 minutes to deal with a trojan, You'd really be screwed
>> and out of your league dealing with ANY of my former work.
>>
>> And yes, As far as I'm concerned; and by your own post, You are
>> exploiting people. Personal Attacks aside. You remind me of one of
>> those punk ass college educated doesn't know a ****ing thing outside
>> the classroom technician that I once had to train to reload windows
>> without formatting the ****ing hard disk....
>>
>> Seriously dude, if a trojan can beat you, your in the wrong field.
>
> Hey Dustin,
> I charge by the hour, I'm on the road most of the day, my hours of
> operation are 8am to 7pm Mon-Sat

I used to do that, now I'm a bit selective with clients I will bother
with. If the client doesn't care about his data, bestbuy will do them
just fine.

> I own two homes, worth about $500,000.00, I own three SUV's, Jeep
> Grand Cherokee (limited) a Jeep Wrangler. and a Santa Fe,

Great! You have titles to all of these, or does the bank? Where I live,
the vehicle isn't really mine if I don't have the title in hand.

Should I be impressed by your choice of vehicles? Or the amount of them
that you have? I Guess I'm wondering what if anything your vehicles have
to do with your fleecing, Except to say you seem to be doing well.

> I am a former DBA for a large bank, now part of BankNorth.
> I have been in business for myself for over eight years and I have
> never been busier.

Great. While you've spent time for the last, 8 years, learning how to run
a small business; I've been doing the stuff your still learning to do,
for much much longer...Anyways, this isn't a pissing contest to me...

I suppose I attacked you personally. It's just that well, I get the
impression from your posts that your one of these guys who will dump the
box and its contents if you really get stuck, and I just don't like
people who are quick to resort to that... It doesn't show skill nor
expertise, your just starting over because you couldn't fix it.

What other profession gives you such an escape route if your even
slightly incompetent? I think you understand the point I'm trying to make
here.

You shouldn't make assumptions of people based on some rather ignorant
persons comments about myself. And, no, Your chronogical age doesn't
really even come into play. I have valid certs in IT, what is it exactly
you have, mr small business owner?

I am sure you have been busy, plenty to go around with the malware and
tons of new users to the internet. Work won't go away anytime soon.

I am not liked primarly as I said due to a not so good past..I chose to
take advantage of peoples ignorance, almost the same as you, only
difference being, I didn't profit financially from any of it. It was very
poor of me, cost people alot of money and basically, I'm still considered
by many, and I suppose rightfully so, to be one evil ****. Some have
learned that I'm not the same as I once was, but I know not everyone is
exactly welcome to me with open arms.. A shotgun or something mebbe.


> I cannot control the speed of a customers PC, plain and simple, and it
> comes down to that every time.

You can do things to improve a systems overall responsiveness, besides
selling them more ram at a 20% markup, I meant.

> I average $120.00 per appointment, and that is with discounts for
> *scan time* as sometimes I can be in a customers house for three
> hours. Locally the Best Buy or Staples charges $100.00 for a format
> and install of XP, *with no backup* of information, and nothing else.

Perhaps thats the average going rate where you live... We didn't even
charge that where I was employed for the last 10 years, and I certainly
dont bill that high unless alot of driving is involved... But, that's a
personal choice. Demographics and such...

> When we are talking about Antivirus 2008 PLUS the other infections on
> a PC we are not talking about a *simple* Trojan...

But they are, really. They typically aren't capable of self replication.
Some hide better than others, and occasion you may have to replace a file
or two,, but otherwise, to any experienced person, they can be removed.

> My avg removal of virus, spyware,adware, is usually around 500, to
> 1000 files, my record is 40,000 on one PC.

Sadly, AVG has a high FP rate...

> I also guarantee my work, if I missed a part of the Virus and the
> system re-infects , I clean it again free of charge, (I had to do that
> ONCE years ago)

a virus? XPantivirus isn't a virus, it's a trojan.... Really.

It's a very important distinction. One can be much ****ing harder to deal
with, aside from resorting to good backups. And the other is easier to
render inoperative.

> I have to go now I'm booked for the day, I have two residential calls
> and one commercial appointment,
> I should make about $400.00 as I should have about 6.5 billable hours
> today (out of ten or eleven worked), which is not as much as you might
> think when you take out gas, advertising, and other consumables..

Considering it's all a tax writeoff for you, I don't sympathize with
initial cost. I bet your claiming oil changes and such too?

> BTW MalwareBytes does *not* work on the UltimateBoot4win CD, why don't
> you get to fixing that??? *NOW*
> Clark...

MalWarebytes shouldn't be on that CD, as it's not a portable application.
I can't control what people decide to include on their cds. And btw, I am
not the author of MalwareBytes; Just a researcher. BugHunter is mine, for
the record. Thanks.







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Regards,
Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter
BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
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