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    Clark Guest

    Re: Anatomy of a malware scam Ping Dustin

    Dustin Cook wrote:
    > "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    > news:%EUsk.19942$9u1.9114@newsfe09.iad:
    >
    >> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>> news:rZTrk.13097$Is1.11858@newsfe04.iad:
    >>>
    >>>> siljaline wrote:
    >>>>> The evil genius of XP Antivirus 2008
    >>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...omy_of_a_hack/
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Silj
    >>>>
    >>>> I love XP Antivirus 2008, This thing is everywhere, I have been
    >>>> getting calls to remove it two three a day on a good week.
    >>>> Well it is good for me but bad for my customers, I did not read the
    >>>> whole article but, this thing comes in a few variations.
    >>>> some are easy and just are removed with a scan in safe mode,
    >>>> others, disable regedit, task manager, system restore, Windows
    >>>> update and control panel. The latter is usually a 90 min removal,
    >>>> but only because most of my customers have sub $800.00 PC's and
    >>>> they tend to be slow. I charge $60.00 an hour, (around here that
    >>>> is almost half the charge of the other local computer repair
    >>>> shops..
    >>>> It is very easy to get infected with this one...
    >>>> Clark...
    >>>> WCFP.
    >>>
    >>> 90 minute removal? Malwarebytes AntiMalware can cut that down for
    >>> you. Of course, you wouldn't be able to exploit people so easily
    >>> then...

    >>
    >> OH by the way thanks for accusing me of exploiting my customers, no
    >> wonder folks don't like you...

    >
    > Heh, some folks don't like me due to my past activities; and if it
    > took you 90 minutes to deal with a trojan, You'd really be screwed
    > and out of your league dealing with ANY of my former work.
    >
    > And yes, As far as I'm concerned; and by your own post, You are
    > exploiting people. Personal Attacks aside. You remind me of one of
    > those punk ass college educated doesn't know a ****ing thing outside
    > the classroom technician that I once had to train to reload windows
    > without formatting the ****ing hard disk....
    >
    > Seriously dude, if a trojan can beat you, your in the wrong field.


    Hey Dustin,
    I charge by the hour, I'm on the road most of the day, my hours of operation
    are 8am to 7pm Mon-Sat
    I own two homes, worth about $500,000.00, I own three SUV's, Jeep Grand
    Cherokee (limited) a Jeep Wrangler. and a Santa Fe,
    I am a former DBA for a large bank, now part of BankNorth.
    I have been in business for myself for over eight years and I have never
    been busier.
    I cannot control the speed of a customers PC, plain and simple, and it comes
    down to that every time.
    I average $120.00 per appointment, and that is with discounts for *scan
    time* as sometimes I can be in a customers house for three hours.
    Locally the Best Buy or Staples charges $100.00 for a format and install of
    XP, *with no backup* of information, and nothing else.
    When we are talking about Antivirus 2008 PLUS the other infections on a PC
    we are not talking about a *simple* Trojan...
    My avg removal of virus, spyware,adware, is usually around 500, to 1000
    files, my record is 40,000 on one PC.
    I think for $120.00 to have a person come to your home and clean the PC, and
    therefore save all your files and settings, AND make sure the PC is working
    properly, plus the customer does not have to unplug the PC and take it to a
    store, is well worth the price I charge.
    I also guarantee my work, if I missed a part of the Virus and the system
    re-infects , I clean it again free of charge, (I had to do that ONCE years
    ago)

    I have to go now I'm booked for the day, I have two residential calls and
    one commercial appointment,
    I should make about $400.00 as I should have about 6.5 billable hours today
    (out of ten or eleven worked), which is not as much as you might think when
    you take out gas, advertising, and other consumables..

    BTW MalwareBytes does *not* work on the UltimateBoot4win CD, why don't you
    get to fixing that??? *NOW*
    Clark...


    --
    Don't you have Google in your part of the world?



  2. #2
    Dustin Cook Guest

    Re: Anatomy of a malware scam Ping Dustin

    "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    newsiStk.14471$4s1.2629@newsfe06.iad:

    > Dustin Cook wrote:
    >> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >> news:%EUsk.19942$9u1.9114@newsfe09.iad:
    >>
    >>> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>>> news:rZTrk.13097$Is1.11858@newsfe04.iad:
    >>>>
    >>>>> siljaline wrote:
    >>>>>> The evil genius of XP Antivirus 2008
    >>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...omy_of_a_hack/
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Silj
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I love XP Antivirus 2008, This thing is everywhere, I have been
    >>>>> getting calls to remove it two three a day on a good week.
    >>>>> Well it is good for me but bad for my customers, I did not read
    >>>>> the whole article but, this thing comes in a few variations.
    >>>>> some are easy and just are removed with a scan in safe mode,
    >>>>> others, disable regedit, task manager, system restore, Windows
    >>>>> update and control panel. The latter is usually a 90 min removal,
    >>>>> but only because most of my customers have sub $800.00 PC's and
    >>>>> they tend to be slow. I charge $60.00 an hour, (around here that
    >>>>> is almost half the charge of the other local computer repair
    >>>>> shops..
    >>>>> It is very easy to get infected with this one...
    >>>>> Clark...
    >>>>> WCFP.
    >>>>
    >>>> 90 minute removal? Malwarebytes AntiMalware can cut that down for
    >>>> you. Of course, you wouldn't be able to exploit people so easily
    >>>> then...
    >>>
    >>> OH by the way thanks for accusing me of exploiting my customers, no
    >>> wonder folks don't like you...

    >>
    >> Heh, some folks don't like me due to my past activities; and if it
    >> took you 90 minutes to deal with a trojan, You'd really be screwed
    >> and out of your league dealing with ANY of my former work.
    >>
    >> And yes, As far as I'm concerned; and by your own post, You are
    >> exploiting people. Personal Attacks aside. You remind me of one of
    >> those punk ass college educated doesn't know a ****ing thing outside
    >> the classroom technician that I once had to train to reload windows
    >> without formatting the ****ing hard disk....
    >>
    >> Seriously dude, if a trojan can beat you, your in the wrong field.

    >
    > Hey Dustin,
    > I charge by the hour, I'm on the road most of the day, my hours of
    > operation are 8am to 7pm Mon-Sat


    I used to do that, now I'm a bit selective with clients I will bother
    with. If the client doesn't care about his data, bestbuy will do them
    just fine.

    > I own two homes, worth about $500,000.00, I own three SUV's, Jeep
    > Grand Cherokee (limited) a Jeep Wrangler. and a Santa Fe,


    Great! You have titles to all of these, or does the bank? Where I live,
    the vehicle isn't really mine if I don't have the title in hand.

    Should I be impressed by your choice of vehicles? Or the amount of them
    that you have? I Guess I'm wondering what if anything your vehicles have
    to do with your fleecing, Except to say you seem to be doing well.

    > I am a former DBA for a large bank, now part of BankNorth.
    > I have been in business for myself for over eight years and I have
    > never been busier.


    Great. While you've spent time for the last, 8 years, learning how to run
    a small business; I've been doing the stuff your still learning to do,
    for much much longer...Anyways, this isn't a pissing contest to me...

    I suppose I attacked you personally. It's just that well, I get the
    impression from your posts that your one of these guys who will dump the
    box and its contents if you really get stuck, and I just don't like
    people who are quick to resort to that... It doesn't show skill nor
    expertise, your just starting over because you couldn't fix it.

    What other profession gives you such an escape route if your even
    slightly incompetent? I think you understand the point I'm trying to make
    here.

    You shouldn't make assumptions of people based on some rather ignorant
    persons comments about myself. And, no, Your chronogical age doesn't
    really even come into play. I have valid certs in IT, what is it exactly
    you have, mr small business owner?

    I am sure you have been busy, plenty to go around with the malware and
    tons of new users to the internet. Work won't go away anytime soon.

    I am not liked primarly as I said due to a not so good past..I chose to
    take advantage of peoples ignorance, almost the same as you, only
    difference being, I didn't profit financially from any of it. It was very
    poor of me, cost people alot of money and basically, I'm still considered
    by many, and I suppose rightfully so, to be one evil ****. Some have
    learned that I'm not the same as I once was, but I know not everyone is
    exactly welcome to me with open arms.. A shotgun or something mebbe.


    > I cannot control the speed of a customers PC, plain and simple, and it
    > comes down to that every time.


    You can do things to improve a systems overall responsiveness, besides
    selling them more ram at a 20% markup, I meant.

    > I average $120.00 per appointment, and that is with discounts for
    > *scan time* as sometimes I can be in a customers house for three
    > hours. Locally the Best Buy or Staples charges $100.00 for a format
    > and install of XP, *with no backup* of information, and nothing else.


    Perhaps thats the average going rate where you live... We didn't even
    charge that where I was employed for the last 10 years, and I certainly
    dont bill that high unless alot of driving is involved... But, that's a
    personal choice. Demographics and such...

    > When we are talking about Antivirus 2008 PLUS the other infections on
    > a PC we are not talking about a *simple* Trojan...


    But they are, really. They typically aren't capable of self replication.
    Some hide better than others, and occasion you may have to replace a file
    or two,, but otherwise, to any experienced person, they can be removed.

    > My avg removal of virus, spyware,adware, is usually around 500, to
    > 1000 files, my record is 40,000 on one PC.


    Sadly, AVG has a high FP rate...

    > I also guarantee my work, if I missed a part of the Virus and the
    > system re-infects , I clean it again free of charge, (I had to do that
    > ONCE years ago)


    a virus? XPantivirus isn't a virus, it's a trojan.... Really.

    It's a very important distinction. One can be much ****ing harder to deal
    with, aside from resorting to good backups. And the other is easier to
    render inoperative.

    > I have to go now I'm booked for the day, I have two residential calls
    > and one commercial appointment,
    > I should make about $400.00 as I should have about 6.5 billable hours
    > today (out of ten or eleven worked), which is not as much as you might
    > think when you take out gas, advertising, and other consumables..


    Considering it's all a tax writeoff for you, I don't sympathize with
    initial cost. I bet your claiming oil changes and such too?

    > BTW MalwareBytes does *not* work on the UltimateBoot4win CD, why don't
    > you get to fixing that??? *NOW*
    > Clark...


    MalWarebytes shouldn't be on that CD, as it's not a portable application.
    I can't control what people decide to include on their cds. And btw, I am
    not the author of MalwareBytes; Just a researcher. BugHunter is mine, for
    the record. Thanks.







    --
    Regards,
    Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter
    BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org



  3. #3
    Clark Guest

    Re: Anatomy of a malware scam Ping Dustin

    Dustin Cook wrote:
    > "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    > newsiStk.14471$4s1.2629@newsfe06.iad:
    >
    >> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>> news:%EUsk.19942$9u1.9114@newsfe09.iad:
    >>>
    >>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>>>> news:rZTrk.13097$Is1.11858@newsfe04.iad:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> siljaline wrote:
    >>>>>>> The evil genius of XP Antivirus 2008
    >>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...omy_of_a_hack/
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Silj
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I love XP Antivirus 2008, This thing is everywhere, I have been
    >>>>>> getting calls to remove it two three a day on a good week.
    >>>>>> Well it is good for me but bad for my customers, I did not read
    >>>>>> the whole article but, this thing comes in a few variations.
    >>>>>> some are easy and just are removed with a scan in safe mode,
    >>>>>> others, disable regedit, task manager, system restore, Windows
    >>>>>> update and control panel. The latter is usually a 90 min removal,
    >>>>>> but only because most of my customers have sub $800.00 PC's and
    >>>>>> they tend to be slow. I charge $60.00 an hour, (around here that
    >>>>>> is almost half the charge of the other local computer repair
    >>>>>> shops..
    >>>>>> It is very easy to get infected with this one...
    >>>>>> Clark...
    >>>>>> WCFP.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> 90 minute removal? Malwarebytes AntiMalware can cut that down for
    >>>>> you. Of course, you wouldn't be able to exploit people so easily
    >>>>> then...
    >>>>
    >>>> OH by the way thanks for accusing me of exploiting my customers, no
    >>>> wonder folks don't like you...
    >>>
    >>> Heh, some folks don't like me due to my past activities; and if it
    >>> took you 90 minutes to deal with a trojan, You'd really be screwed
    >>> and out of your league dealing with ANY of my former work.
    >>>
    >>> And yes, As far as I'm concerned; and by your own post, You are
    >>> exploiting people. Personal Attacks aside. You remind me of one of
    >>> those punk ass college educated doesn't know a ****ing thing outside
    >>> the classroom technician that I once had to train to reload windows
    >>> without formatting the ****ing hard disk....
    >>>
    >>> Seriously dude, if a trojan can beat you, your in the wrong field.

    >>
    >> Hey Dustin,
    >> I charge by the hour, I'm on the road most of the day, my hours of
    >> operation are 8am to 7pm Mon-Sat

    >
    > I used to do that, now I'm a bit selective with clients I will bother
    > with. If the client doesn't care about his data, bestbuy will do them
    > just fine.
    >
    >> I own two homes, worth about $500,000.00, I own three SUV's, Jeep
    >> Grand Cherokee (limited) a Jeep Wrangler. and a Santa Fe,

    >
    > Great! You have titles to all of these, or does the bank? Where I
    > live, the vehicle isn't really mine if I don't have the title in hand.
    >
    > Should I be impressed by your choice of vehicles? Or the amount of
    > them that you have? I Guess I'm wondering what if anything your
    > vehicles have to do with your fleecing, Except to say you seem to be
    > doing well.
    >
    >> I am a former DBA for a large bank, now part of BankNorth.
    >> I have been in business for myself for over eight years and I have
    >> never been busier.

    >
    > Great. While you've spent time for the last, 8 years, learning how to
    > run a small business; I've been doing the stuff your still learning
    > to do, for much much longer...Anyways, this isn't a pissing contest
    > to me...
    >
    > I suppose I attacked you personally. It's just that well, I get the
    > impression from your posts that your one of these guys who will dump
    > the box and its contents if you really get stuck, and I just don't
    > like people who are quick to resort to that... It doesn't show skill
    > nor expertise, your just starting over because you couldn't fix it.
    >
    > What other profession gives you such an escape route if your even
    > slightly incompetent? I think you understand the point I'm trying to
    > make here.
    >
    > You shouldn't make assumptions of people based on some rather ignorant
    > persons comments about myself. And, no, Your chronogical age doesn't
    > really even come into play. I have valid certs in IT, what is it
    > exactly you have, mr small business owner?
    >
    > I am sure you have been busy, plenty to go around with the malware and
    > tons of new users to the internet. Work won't go away anytime soon.
    >
    > I am not liked primarly as I said due to a not so good past..I chose
    > to take advantage of peoples ignorance, almost the same as you, only
    > difference being, I didn't profit financially from any of it. It was
    > very poor of me, cost people alot of money and basically, I'm still
    > considered by many, and I suppose rightfully so, to be one evil ****.
    > Some have learned that I'm not the same as I once was, but I know not
    > everyone is exactly welcome to me with open arms.. A shotgun or
    > something mebbe.
    >
    >
    >> I cannot control the speed of a customers PC, plain and simple, and
    >> it comes down to that every time.

    >
    > You can do things to improve a systems overall responsiveness, besides
    > selling them more ram at a 20% markup, I meant.
    >
    >> I average $120.00 per appointment, and that is with discounts for
    >> *scan time* as sometimes I can be in a customers house for three
    >> hours. Locally the Best Buy or Staples charges $100.00 for a format
    >> and install of XP, *with no backup* of information, and nothing else.

    >
    > Perhaps thats the average going rate where you live... We didn't even
    > charge that where I was employed for the last 10 years, and I
    > certainly dont bill that high unless alot of driving is involved...
    > But, that's a personal choice. Demographics and such...
    >
    >> When we are talking about Antivirus 2008 PLUS the other infections on
    >> a PC we are not talking about a *simple* Trojan...

    >
    > But they are, really. They typically aren't capable of self
    > replication. Some hide better than others, and occasion you may have
    > to replace a file or two,, but otherwise, to any experienced person,
    > they can be removed.
    >
    >> My avg removal of virus, spyware,adware, is usually around 500, to
    >> 1000 files, my record is 40,000 on one PC.

    >
    > Sadly, AVG has a high FP rate...
    >
    >> I also guarantee my work, if I missed a part of the Virus and the
    >> system re-infects , I clean it again free of charge, (I had to do
    >> that ONCE years ago)

    >
    > a virus? XPantivirus isn't a virus, it's a trojan.... Really.
    >
    > It's a very important distinction. One can be much ****ing harder to
    > deal with, aside from resorting to good backups. And the other is
    > easier to render inoperative.
    >
    >> I have to go now I'm booked for the day, I have two residential calls
    >> and one commercial appointment,
    >> I should make about $400.00 as I should have about 6.5 billable hours
    >> today (out of ten or eleven worked), which is not as much as you
    >> might think when you take out gas, advertising, and other
    >> consumables..

    >
    > Considering it's all a tax writeoff for you, I don't sympathize with
    > initial cost. I bet your claiming oil changes and such too?
    >
    >> BTW MalwareBytes does *not* work on the UltimateBoot4win CD, why
    >> don't you get to fixing that??? *NOW*
    >> Clark...

    >
    > MalWarebytes shouldn't be on that CD, as it's not a portable
    > application. I can't control what people decide to include on their
    > cds. And btw, I am not the author of MalwareBytes; Just a researcher.
    > BugHunter is mine, for the record. Thanks.


    Sorry, yup Bug hunter is yours, I looked up the E-mail I sent you a while
    back,
    I never use it, I must admit, but I don't use Malwarebytes either, BUT I
    assumed you could contact the programers at Malwarebytes
    and set everything straight for them since your such a fricken genuis, so
    I'm sure it will only take a second since I'm SURE you can clean a Dell with
    a Pentium III and 128 megs of RAM with XP installed on it in like 2
    minutes....(I told you I have customers with slow PCs) and yes I tell them
    the money would be better spent buying a new PC, but all I can do is offer
    advice.....


    >> I own two homes, worth about $500,000.00, I own three SUV's, Jeep
    >> Grand Cherokee (limited) a Jeep Wrangler. and a Santa Fe,

    >
    > Great! You have titles to all of these, or does the bank? Where I
    > live, the vehicle isn't really mine if I don't have the title in hand.
    >
    > Should I be impressed by your choice of vehicles? Or the amount of
    > them that you have? I Guess I'm wondering what if anything your
    > vehicles have to do with your fleecing, Except to say you seem to be
    > doing well.
    >


    No pissing contest here, I was just establishing the fact I do pretty well
    for myself, (you know by ripping people off by fixing their PC and charging
    less than the other shops)

    You have no ****ing right to tell me or anyone else what or how they make
    money or how much they charge is wrong or to much etc,
    It is my business and I will charge what I need to make a living.

    I have to go now, it is Saturday, and I have three PC's here that need to be
    fixed,
    I'm going to work on all three at the same time and it should take about 3
    or 4 hours and I'm going to charge $150 to $200 bucks apiece
    (not to bad for a Sat morning)
    I hope that is OK with you....

    Clark...




  4. #4
    Dustin Cook Guest

    Re: Anatomy of a malware scam Ping Dustin

    "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:IRbuk.20205$Rs1.15532@newsfe08.iad:

    > Dustin Cook wrote:
    >> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >> newsiStk.14471$4s1.2629@newsfe06.iad:
    >>
    >>> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>>> news:%EUsk.19942$9u1.9114@newsfe09.iad:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>>>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>>>>> news:rZTrk.13097$Is1.11858@newsfe04.iad:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> siljaline wrote:
    >>>>>>>> The evil genius of XP Antivirus 2008
    >>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...omy_of_a_hack/
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Silj
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I love XP Antivirus 2008, This thing is everywhere, I have been
    >>>>>>> getting calls to remove it two three a day on a good week.
    >>>>>>> Well it is good for me but bad for my customers, I did not read
    >>>>>>> the whole article but, this thing comes in a few variations.
    >>>>>>> some are easy and just are removed with a scan in safe mode,
    >>>>>>> others, disable regedit, task manager, system restore, Windows
    >>>>>>> update and control panel. The latter is usually a 90 min
    >>>>>>> removal, but only because most of my customers have sub $800.00
    >>>>>>> PC's and they tend to be slow. I charge $60.00 an hour, (around
    >>>>>>> here that is almost half the charge of the other local computer
    >>>>>>> repair shops..
    >>>>>>> It is very easy to get infected with this one...
    >>>>>>> Clark...
    >>>>>>> WCFP.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> 90 minute removal? Malwarebytes AntiMalware can cut that down for
    >>>>>> you. Of course, you wouldn't be able to exploit people so easily
    >>>>>> then...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> OH by the way thanks for accusing me of exploiting my customers,
    >>>>> no wonder folks don't like you...
    >>>>
    >>>> Heh, some folks don't like me due to my past activities; and if it
    >>>> took you 90 minutes to deal with a trojan, You'd really be screwed
    >>>> and out of your league dealing with ANY of my former work.
    >>>>
    >>>> And yes, As far as I'm concerned; and by your own post, You are
    >>>> exploiting people. Personal Attacks aside. You remind me of one of
    >>>> those punk ass college educated doesn't know a ****ing thing
    >>>> outside the classroom technician that I once had to train to reload
    >>>> windows without formatting the ****ing hard disk....
    >>>>
    >>>> Seriously dude, if a trojan can beat you, your in the wrong field.
    >>>
    >>> Hey Dustin,
    >>> I charge by the hour, I'm on the road most of the day, my hours of
    >>> operation are 8am to 7pm Mon-Sat

    >>
    >> I used to do that, now I'm a bit selective with clients I will bother
    >> with. If the client doesn't care about his data, bestbuy will do them
    >> just fine.
    >>
    >>> I own two homes, worth about $500,000.00, I own three SUV's, Jeep
    >>> Grand Cherokee (limited) a Jeep Wrangler. and a Santa Fe,

    >>
    >> Great! You have titles to all of these, or does the bank? Where I
    >> live, the vehicle isn't really mine if I don't have the title in
    >> hand.
    >>
    >> Should I be impressed by your choice of vehicles? Or the amount of
    >> them that you have? I Guess I'm wondering what if anything your
    >> vehicles have to do with your fleecing, Except to say you seem to be
    >> doing well.
    >>
    >>> I am a former DBA for a large bank, now part of BankNorth.
    >>> I have been in business for myself for over eight years and I have
    >>> never been busier.

    >>
    >> Great. While you've spent time for the last, 8 years, learning how to
    >> run a small business; I've been doing the stuff your still learning
    >> to do, for much much longer...Anyways, this isn't a pissing contest
    >> to me...
    >>
    >> I suppose I attacked you personally. It's just that well, I get the
    >> impression from your posts that your one of these guys who will dump
    >> the box and its contents if you really get stuck, and I just don't
    >> like people who are quick to resort to that... It doesn't show skill
    >> nor expertise, your just starting over because you couldn't fix it.
    >>
    >> What other profession gives you such an escape route if your even
    >> slightly incompetent? I think you understand the point I'm trying to
    >> make here.
    >>
    >> You shouldn't make assumptions of people based on some rather
    >> ignorant persons comments about myself. And, no, Your chronogical age
    >> doesn't really even come into play. I have valid certs in IT, what is
    >> it exactly you have, mr small business owner?
    >>
    >> I am sure you have been busy, plenty to go around with the malware
    >> and tons of new users to the internet. Work won't go away anytime
    >> soon.
    >>
    >> I am not liked primarly as I said due to a not so good past..I chose
    >> to take advantage of peoples ignorance, almost the same as you, only
    >> difference being, I didn't profit financially from any of it. It was
    >> very poor of me, cost people alot of money and basically, I'm still
    >> considered by many, and I suppose rightfully so, to be one evil ****.
    >> Some have learned that I'm not the same as I once was, but I know not
    >> everyone is exactly welcome to me with open arms.. A shotgun or
    >> something mebbe.
    >>
    >>
    >>> I cannot control the speed of a customers PC, plain and simple, and
    >>> it comes down to that every time.

    >>
    >> You can do things to improve a systems overall responsiveness,
    >> besides selling them more ram at a 20% markup, I meant.
    >>
    >>> I average $120.00 per appointment, and that is with discounts for
    >>> *scan time* as sometimes I can be in a customers house for three
    >>> hours. Locally the Best Buy or Staples charges $100.00 for a format
    >>> and install of XP, *with no backup* of information, and nothing
    >>> else.

    >>
    >> Perhaps thats the average going rate where you live... We didn't even
    >> charge that where I was employed for the last 10 years, and I
    >> certainly dont bill that high unless alot of driving is involved...
    >> But, that's a personal choice. Demographics and such...
    >>
    >>> When we are talking about Antivirus 2008 PLUS the other infections
    >>> on a PC we are not talking about a *simple* Trojan...

    >>
    >> But they are, really. They typically aren't capable of self
    >> replication. Some hide better than others, and occasion you may have
    >> to replace a file or two,, but otherwise, to any experienced person,
    >> they can be removed.
    >>
    >>> My avg removal of virus, spyware,adware, is usually around 500, to
    >>> 1000 files, my record is 40,000 on one PC.

    >>
    >> Sadly, AVG has a high FP rate...
    >>
    >>> I also guarantee my work, if I missed a part of the Virus and the
    >>> system re-infects , I clean it again free of charge, (I had to do
    >>> that ONCE years ago)

    >>
    >> a virus? XPantivirus isn't a virus, it's a trojan.... Really.
    >>
    >> It's a very important distinction. One can be much ****ing harder to
    >> deal with, aside from resorting to good backups. And the other is
    >> easier to render inoperative.
    >>
    >>> I have to go now I'm booked for the day, I have two residential
    >>> calls and one commercial appointment,
    >>> I should make about $400.00 as I should have about 6.5 billable
    >>> hours today (out of ten or eleven worked), which is not as much as
    >>> you might think when you take out gas, advertising, and other
    >>> consumables..

    >>
    >> Considering it's all a tax writeoff for you, I don't sympathize with
    >> initial cost. I bet your claiming oil changes and such too?
    >>
    >>> BTW MalwareBytes does *not* work on the UltimateBoot4win CD, why
    >>> don't you get to fixing that??? *NOW*
    >>> Clark...

    >>
    >> MalWarebytes shouldn't be on that CD, as it's not a portable
    >> application. I can't control what people decide to include on their
    >> cds. And btw, I am not the author of MalwareBytes; Just a researcher.
    >> BugHunter is mine, for the record. Thanks.

    >
    > Sorry, yup Bug hunter is yours, I looked up the E-mail I sent you a
    > while back,


    No Problem.

    > I never use it, I must admit, but I don't use Malwarebytes either, BUT
    > I assumed you could contact the programers at Malwarebytes
    > and set everything straight for them since your such a fricken genuis,


    While I do appreciate your wiseass remark regarding my intelligence,
    it's not as simple as you seem to think. MalWareBytes is maintained by
    several individuals, and has several language translations. Any change
    of significance to the engine requires input from ALL programmers, and
    some things for portability are just not a priority at the moment. This
    issue has been discussed at length for sometime on the forums and in
    private conversations between myself and the others involved, it's a
    huge undertaking. The application was never intended to be portable.
    It's not a simple utility like BugHunter.

    Eventually we plan to offer a portable version, but as I said, not at
    this time.

    > so I'm sure it will only take a second since I'm SURE you can clean a
    > Dell with a Pentium III and 128 megs of RAM with XP installed on it in
    > like 2 minutes....(I told you I have customers with slow PCs) and yes


    2 minutes? For XP antivirus, that can be done, yes. Lesson time.

    1. Acquire a bartpe disc.
    2. Boot machine from bartpe.
    3. Find the files associated; Most are hard coded filenames. I know most
    of the variants by heart now... heh 4. Delete the files.
    5. Mount the infected systems software hive in barts regedit. you know
    how right, mr computer fixer? 6. Edit relevant registry entries.

    options for even faster:

    Boot bart, reconfigure bughunter for non recursive quick scan, hunt the
    windows folder, then edit the registry. That should satisfy your anal 2
    minute scan time.

    > I tell them the money would be better spent buying a new PC, but all I
    > can do is offer advice.....


    They would be better off, imho, finding a more honest computer person
    with more real world experience than what you display here.

    You seemed to take great enjoyment over people infected with XP
    antivirus, due to the money it makes you.

    The helpers on the various forums seem to know more than you about this,
    and they aren't all even techs.

    >>> I own two homes, worth about $500,000.00, I own three SUV's, Jeep
    >>> Grand Cherokee (limited) a Jeep Wrangler. and a Santa Fe,

    >>
    >> Great! You have titles to all of these, or does the bank? Where I
    >> live, the vehicle isn't really mine if I don't have the title in
    >> hand.
    >>
    >> Should I be impressed by your choice of vehicles? Or the amount of
    >> them that you have? I Guess I'm wondering what if anything your
    >> vehicles have to do with your fleecing, Except to say you seem to be
    >> doing well.
    >>

    >
    > No pissing contest here, I was just establishing the fact I do pretty
    > well for myself, (you know by ripping people off by fixing their PC
    > and charging less than the other shops)


    Considering new boxes can be acquired for a few hundred more than your
    service call, and based on how you bill, yea your ripping them off.

    > You have no ****ing right to tell me or anyone else what or how they
    > make money or how much they charge is wrong or to much etc,


    Your absolutely right! But, I can call your competence into question,
    Especially when you brag about your rates and methods of removal. Your
    not worth the cost, imo.

    > I have to go now, it is Saturday, and I have three PC's here that need
    > to be fixed,
    > I'm going to work on all three at the same time and it should take
    > about 3 or 4 hours and I'm going to charge $150 to $200 bucks apiece
    > (not to bad for a Sat morning)


    Way to go, I hope some of your customers read this and realize how badly
    your raping them over the coals, incompetent ****ing moron.


    > I hope that is OK with you....


    Sure is.


    --
    Regards,
    Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter
    BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org



  5. #5
    Clark Guest

    Re: Anatomy of a malware scam Ping Dustin

    Dustin Cook wrote:
    > "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    > news:IRbuk.20205$Rs1.15532@newsfe08.iad:
    >
    >> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>> newsiStk.14471$4s1.2629@newsfe06.iad:
    >>>
    >>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>>>> news:%EUsk.19942$9u1.9114@newsfe09.iad:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>>>>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>>>>>> news:rZTrk.13097$Is1.11858@newsfe04.iad:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> siljaline wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> The evil genius of XP Antivirus 2008
    >>>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...omy_of_a_hack/
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Silj
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> I love XP Antivirus 2008, This thing is everywhere, I have been
    >>>>>>>> getting calls to remove it two three a day on a good week.
    >>>>>>>> Well it is good for me but bad for my customers, I did not read
    >>>>>>>> the whole article but, this thing comes in a few variations.
    >>>>>>>> some are easy and just are removed with a scan in safe mode,
    >>>>>>>> others, disable regedit, task manager, system restore, Windows
    >>>>>>>> update and control panel. The latter is usually a 90 min
    >>>>>>>> removal, but only because most of my customers have sub $800.00
    >>>>>>>> PC's and they tend to be slow. I charge $60.00 an hour, (around
    >>>>>>>> here that is almost half the charge of the other local computer
    >>>>>>>> repair shops..
    >>>>>>>> It is very easy to get infected with this one...
    >>>>>>>> Clark...
    >>>>>>>> WCFP.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> 90 minute removal? Malwarebytes AntiMalware can cut that down
    >>>>>>> for you. Of course, you wouldn't be able to exploit people so
    >>>>>>> easily then...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> OH by the way thanks for accusing me of exploiting my customers,
    >>>>>> no wonder folks don't like you...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Heh, some folks don't like me due to my past activities; and if it
    >>>>> took you 90 minutes to deal with a trojan, You'd really be screwed
    >>>>> and out of your league dealing with ANY of my former work.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And yes, As far as I'm concerned; and by your own post, You are
    >>>>> exploiting people. Personal Attacks aside. You remind me of one of
    >>>>> those punk ass college educated doesn't know a ****ing thing
    >>>>> outside the classroom technician that I once had to train to
    >>>>> reload windows without formatting the ****ing hard disk....
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Seriously dude, if a trojan can beat you, your in the wrong field.
    >>>>
    >>>> Hey Dustin,
    >>>> I charge by the hour, I'm on the road most of the day, my hours of
    >>>> operation are 8am to 7pm Mon-Sat
    >>>
    >>> I used to do that, now I'm a bit selective with clients I will
    >>> bother with. If the client doesn't care about his data, bestbuy
    >>> will do them just fine.
    >>>
    >>>> I own two homes, worth about $500,000.00, I own three SUV's, Jeep
    >>>> Grand Cherokee (limited) a Jeep Wrangler. and a Santa Fe,
    >>>
    >>> Great! You have titles to all of these, or does the bank? Where I
    >>> live, the vehicle isn't really mine if I don't have the title in
    >>> hand.
    >>>
    >>> Should I be impressed by your choice of vehicles? Or the amount of
    >>> them that you have? I Guess I'm wondering what if anything your
    >>> vehicles have to do with your fleecing, Except to say you seem to be
    >>> doing well.
    >>>
    >>>> I am a former DBA for a large bank, now part of BankNorth.
    >>>> I have been in business for myself for over eight years and I have
    >>>> never been busier.
    >>>
    >>> Great. While you've spent time for the last, 8 years, learning how
    >>> to run a small business; I've been doing the stuff your still
    >>> learning to do, for much much longer...Anyways, this isn't a
    >>> pissing contest to me...
    >>>
    >>> I suppose I attacked you personally. It's just that well, I get the
    >>> impression from your posts that your one of these guys who will dump
    >>> the box and its contents if you really get stuck, and I just don't
    >>> like people who are quick to resort to that... It doesn't show skill
    >>> nor expertise, your just starting over because you couldn't fix it.
    >>>
    >>> What other profession gives you such an escape route if your even
    >>> slightly incompetent? I think you understand the point I'm trying to
    >>> make here.
    >>>
    >>> You shouldn't make assumptions of people based on some rather
    >>> ignorant persons comments about myself. And, no, Your chronogical
    >>> age doesn't really even come into play. I have valid certs in IT,
    >>> what is it exactly you have, mr small business owner?
    >>>
    >>> I am sure you have been busy, plenty to go around with the malware
    >>> and tons of new users to the internet. Work won't go away anytime
    >>> soon.
    >>>
    >>> I am not liked primarly as I said due to a not so good past..I chose
    >>> to take advantage of peoples ignorance, almost the same as you, only
    >>> difference being, I didn't profit financially from any of it. It was
    >>> very poor of me, cost people alot of money and basically, I'm still
    >>> considered by many, and I suppose rightfully so, to be one evil
    >>> ****. Some have learned that I'm not the same as I once was, but I
    >>> know not everyone is exactly welcome to me with open arms.. A
    >>> shotgun or something mebbe.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> I cannot control the speed of a customers PC, plain and simple, and
    >>>> it comes down to that every time.
    >>>
    >>> You can do things to improve a systems overall responsiveness,
    >>> besides selling them more ram at a 20% markup, I meant.
    >>>
    >>>> I average $120.00 per appointment, and that is with discounts for
    >>>> *scan time* as sometimes I can be in a customers house for three
    >>>> hours. Locally the Best Buy or Staples charges $100.00 for a format
    >>>> and install of XP, *with no backup* of information, and nothing
    >>>> else.
    >>>
    >>> Perhaps thats the average going rate where you live... We didn't
    >>> even charge that where I was employed for the last 10 years, and I
    >>> certainly dont bill that high unless alot of driving is involved...
    >>> But, that's a personal choice. Demographics and such...
    >>>
    >>>> When we are talking about Antivirus 2008 PLUS the other infections
    >>>> on a PC we are not talking about a *simple* Trojan...
    >>>
    >>> But they are, really. They typically aren't capable of self
    >>> replication. Some hide better than others, and occasion you may have
    >>> to replace a file or two,, but otherwise, to any experienced person,
    >>> they can be removed.
    >>>
    >>>> My avg removal of virus, spyware,adware, is usually around 500, to
    >>>> 1000 files, my record is 40,000 on one PC.
    >>>
    >>> Sadly, AVG has a high FP rate...
    >>>
    >>>> I also guarantee my work, if I missed a part of the Virus and the
    >>>> system re-infects , I clean it again free of charge, (I had to do
    >>>> that ONCE years ago)
    >>>
    >>> a virus? XPantivirus isn't a virus, it's a trojan.... Really.
    >>>
    >>> It's a very important distinction. One can be much ****ing harder to
    >>> deal with, aside from resorting to good backups. And the other is
    >>> easier to render inoperative.
    >>>
    >>>> I have to go now I'm booked for the day, I have two residential
    >>>> calls and one commercial appointment,
    >>>> I should make about $400.00 as I should have about 6.5 billable
    >>>> hours today (out of ten or eleven worked), which is not as much as
    >>>> you might think when you take out gas, advertising, and other
    >>>> consumables..
    >>>
    >>> Considering it's all a tax writeoff for you, I don't sympathize with
    >>> initial cost. I bet your claiming oil changes and such too?
    >>>
    >>>> BTW MalwareBytes does *not* work on the UltimateBoot4win CD, why
    >>>> don't you get to fixing that??? *NOW*
    >>>> Clark...
    >>>
    >>> MalWarebytes shouldn't be on that CD, as it's not a portable
    >>> application. I can't control what people decide to include on their
    >>> cds. And btw, I am not the author of MalwareBytes; Just a
    >>> researcher. BugHunter is mine, for the record. Thanks.

    >>
    >> Sorry, yup Bug hunter is yours, I looked up the E-mail I sent you a
    >> while back,

    >
    > No Problem.
    >
    >> I never use it, I must admit, but I don't use Malwarebytes either,
    >> BUT I assumed you could contact the programers at Malwarebytes
    >> and set everything straight for them since your such a fricken
    >> genuis,

    >
    > While I do appreciate your wiseass remark regarding my intelligence,
    > it's not as simple as you seem to think. MalWareBytes is maintained by
    > several individuals, and has several language translations. Any change
    > of significance to the engine requires input from ALL programmers, and
    > some things for portability are just not a priority at the moment.
    > This issue has been discussed at length for sometime on the forums
    > and in private conversations between myself and the others involved,
    > it's a huge undertaking. The application was never intended to be
    > portable. It's not a simple utility like BugHunter.
    >
    > Eventually we plan to offer a portable version, but as I said, not at
    > this time.
    >
    >> so I'm sure it will only take a second since I'm SURE you can clean a
    >> Dell with a Pentium III and 128 megs of RAM with XP installed on it
    >> in like 2 minutes....(I told you I have customers with slow PCs) and
    >> yes

    >
    > 2 minutes? For XP antivirus, that can be done, yes. Lesson time.
    >
    > 1. Acquire a bartpe disc.
    > 2. Boot machine from bartpe.
    > 3. Find the files associated; Most are hard coded filenames. I know
    > most of the variants by heart now... heh 4. Delete the files.
    > 5. Mount the infected systems software hive in barts regedit. you know
    > how right, mr computer fixer? 6. Edit relevant registry entries.
    >
    > options for even faster:
    >
    > Boot bart, reconfigure bughunter for non recursive quick scan, hunt
    > the windows folder, then edit the registry. That should satisfy your
    > anal 2 minute scan time.





    Bart PE boot disk or the Ultimate boot disk is one of my favorite tools,
    Thank god for the folks that have put that thing together, I donate to them
    on a regular basis....
    but on a PIII with 128megs of RAM it takes at least 2 min to boot to the CD.
    DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And your right I'm an incompetent ass that over charges his dummy clients
    and rips them off
    I'm a total fraud!!!!!!! you're so right ..
    Ya know what I'm going to do first thing next week.
    I'm going to call and or mail my hundreds and hundreds of customers, (most
    repeat customers that ask for five or more business cards when I visit
    because they loved the work I did). Oh and the customers I give FREE phone
    support to also.
    And tell them what a fraud I am !!!
    I'm going to cancel my radio commercials,
    I'm going to pull my advertising in the yellow pages,
    Then I will sell my 9 computers all my printers,
    give up my sales tax number,
    turn in my employee identification numbers,
    and put my inventory of computer parts for sale on E-bay
    then I will call all my wholesalers and tell them to terminate my accounts
    Then I will ask Microsoft to pull my business from the Microsoft Partner
    Program,
    and tell them I no longer wish to Beta test for them too.

    I used to stick up for you buddy
    but I am done with you, Go finish off that bottle of booze your drinkin.

    Clark...
    (you never noticed I misspelled genius)... grin.....

    the rest sniped

    --
    I am such a looser!!!!!!





  6. #6
    Buffalo Guest

    Re: Anatomy of a malware scam Ping Dustin



    Clark wrote:
    [snip]
    >> Ya know what I'm going to do first thing next week.

    > I'm going to call and or mail my hundreds and hundreds of customers,
    > (most repeat customers that ask for five or more business cards when
    > I visit because they loved the work I did). Oh and the customers I
    > give FREE phone support to also.
    > And tell them what a fraud I am !!!
    > I'm going to cancel my radio commercials,
    > I'm going to pull my advertising in the yellow pages,

    [snip]

    Damn, if you have such good customer references ("most repeat customers that
    ask for five or more business cards"), you probably wouldn't have to spend
    all that money advertising in the yellow pages and radio commercials.
    You actually sound like a smooth talker who has some knowledge on how to fix
    computers.


    > I used to stick up for you buddy
    > but I am done with you, Go finish off that bottle of booze your
    > drinkin.
    >
    > Clark


    PS:You're not related to G.W. Bush are you. Hell, he sold the Americans a
    line for quite a while and they will be paying his 'bill' for decades to
    come.



  7. #7
    Dustin Cook Guest

    Re: Anatomy of a malware scam Ping Dustin

    "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:1hiuk.16315$_s1.1408@newsfe07.iad:

    > Dustin Cook wrote:
    >> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >> news:IRbuk.20205$Rs1.15532@newsfe08.iad:
    >>
    >>> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>>> newsiStk.14471$4s1.2629@newsfe06.iad:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>>>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>>>>> news:%EUsk.19942$9u1.9114@newsfe09.iad:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>>>>>>> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >>>>>>>> news:rZTrk.13097$Is1.11858@newsfe04.iad:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> siljaline wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> The evil genius of XP Antivirus 2008
    >>>>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...omy_of_a_hack/
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Silj
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> I love XP Antivirus 2008, This thing is everywhere, I have
    >>>>>>>>> been getting calls to remove it two three a day on a good
    >>>>>>>>> week. Well it is good for me but bad for my customers, I did
    >>>>>>>>> not read the whole article but, this thing comes in a few
    >>>>>>>>> variations. some are easy and just are removed with a scan in
    >>>>>>>>> safe mode, others, disable regedit, task manager, system
    >>>>>>>>> restore, Windows update and control panel. The latter is
    >>>>>>>>> usually a 90 min removal, but only because most of my
    >>>>>>>>> customers have sub $800.00 PC's and they tend to be slow. I
    >>>>>>>>> charge $60.00 an hour, (around here that is almost half the
    >>>>>>>>> charge of the other local computer repair shops..
    >>>>>>>>> It is very easy to get infected with this one...
    >>>>>>>>> Clark...
    >>>>>>>>> WCFP.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> 90 minute removal? Malwarebytes AntiMalware can cut that down
    >>>>>>>> for you. Of course, you wouldn't be able to exploit people so
    >>>>>>>> easily then...
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> OH by the way thanks for accusing me of exploiting my customers,
    >>>>>>> no wonder folks don't like you...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Heh, some folks don't like me due to my past activities; and if
    >>>>>> it took you 90 minutes to deal with a trojan, You'd really be
    >>>>>> screwed and out of your league dealing with ANY of my former
    >>>>>> work.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> And yes, As far as I'm concerned; and by your own post, You are
    >>>>>> exploiting people. Personal Attacks aside. You remind me of one
    >>>>>> of those punk ass college educated doesn't know a ****ing thing
    >>>>>> outside the classroom technician that I once had to train to
    >>>>>> reload windows without formatting the ****ing hard disk....
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Seriously dude, if a trojan can beat you, your in the wrong
    >>>>>> field.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Hey Dustin,
    >>>>> I charge by the hour, I'm on the road most of the day, my hours of
    >>>>> operation are 8am to 7pm Mon-Sat
    >>>>
    >>>> I used to do that, now I'm a bit selective with clients I will
    >>>> bother with. If the client doesn't care about his data, bestbuy
    >>>> will do them just fine.
    >>>>
    >>>>> I own two homes, worth about $500,000.00, I own three SUV's, Jeep
    >>>>> Grand Cherokee (limited) a Jeep Wrangler. and a Santa Fe,
    >>>>
    >>>> Great! You have titles to all of these, or does the bank? Where I
    >>>> live, the vehicle isn't really mine if I don't have the title in
    >>>> hand.
    >>>>
    >>>> Should I be impressed by your choice of vehicles? Or the amount of
    >>>> them that you have? I Guess I'm wondering what if anything your
    >>>> vehicles have to do with your fleecing, Except to say you seem to
    >>>> be doing well.
    >>>>
    >>>>> I am a former DBA for a large bank, now part of BankNorth.
    >>>>> I have been in business for myself for over eight years and I
    >>>>> have never been busier.
    >>>>
    >>>> Great. While you've spent time for the last, 8 years, learning how
    >>>> to run a small business; I've been doing the stuff your still
    >>>> learning to do, for much much longer...Anyways, this isn't a
    >>>> pissing contest to me...
    >>>>
    >>>> I suppose I attacked you personally. It's just that well, I get the
    >>>> impression from your posts that your one of these guys who will
    >>>> dump the box and its contents if you really get stuck, and I just
    >>>> don't like people who are quick to resort to that... It doesn't
    >>>> show skill nor expertise, your just starting over because you
    >>>> couldn't fix it.
    >>>>
    >>>> What other profession gives you such an escape route if your even
    >>>> slightly incompetent? I think you understand the point I'm trying
    >>>> to make here.
    >>>>
    >>>> You shouldn't make assumptions of people based on some rather
    >>>> ignorant persons comments about myself. And, no, Your chronogical
    >>>> age doesn't really even come into play. I have valid certs in IT,
    >>>> what is it exactly you have, mr small business owner?
    >>>>
    >>>> I am sure you have been busy, plenty to go around with the malware
    >>>> and tons of new users to the internet. Work won't go away anytime
    >>>> soon.
    >>>>
    >>>> I am not liked primarly as I said due to a not so good past..I
    >>>> chose to take advantage of peoples ignorance, almost the same as
    >>>> you, only difference being, I didn't profit financially from any of
    >>>> it. It was very poor of me, cost people alot of money and
    >>>> basically, I'm still considered by many, and I suppose rightfully
    >>>> so, to be one evil ****. Some have learned that I'm not the same as
    >>>> I once was, but I know not everyone is exactly welcome to me with
    >>>> open arms.. A shotgun or something mebbe.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> I cannot control the speed of a customers PC, plain and simple,
    >>>>> and it comes down to that every time.
    >>>>
    >>>> You can do things to improve a systems overall responsiveness,
    >>>> besides selling them more ram at a 20% markup, I meant.
    >>>>
    >>>>> I average $120.00 per appointment, and that is with discounts for
    >>>>> *scan time* as sometimes I can be in a customers house for three
    >>>>> hours. Locally the Best Buy or Staples charges $100.00 for a
    >>>>> format and install of XP, *with no backup* of information, and
    >>>>> nothing else.
    >>>>
    >>>> Perhaps thats the average going rate where you live... We didn't
    >>>> even charge that where I was employed for the last 10 years, and I
    >>>> certainly dont bill that high unless alot of driving is involved...
    >>>> But, that's a personal choice. Demographics and such...
    >>>>
    >>>>> When we are talking about Antivirus 2008 PLUS the other infections
    >>>>> on a PC we are not talking about a *simple* Trojan...
    >>>>
    >>>> But they are, really. They typically aren't capable of self
    >>>> replication. Some hide better than others, and occasion you may
    >>>> have to replace a file or two,, but otherwise, to any experienced
    >>>> person, they can be removed.
    >>>>
    >>>>> My avg removal of virus, spyware,adware, is usually around 500, to
    >>>>> 1000 files, my record is 40,000 on one PC.
    >>>>
    >>>> Sadly, AVG has a high FP rate...
    >>>>
    >>>>> I also guarantee my work, if I missed a part of the Virus and the
    >>>>> system re-infects , I clean it again free of charge, (I had to do
    >>>>> that ONCE years ago)
    >>>>
    >>>> a virus? XPantivirus isn't a virus, it's a trojan.... Really.
    >>>>
    >>>> It's a very important distinction. One can be much ****ing harder
    >>>> to deal with, aside from resorting to good backups. And the other
    >>>> is easier to render inoperative.
    >>>>
    >>>>> I have to go now I'm booked for the day, I have two residential
    >>>>> calls and one commercial appointment,
    >>>>> I should make about $400.00 as I should have about 6.5 billable
    >>>>> hours today (out of ten or eleven worked), which is not as much as
    >>>>> you might think when you take out gas, advertising, and other
    >>>>> consumables..
    >>>>
    >>>> Considering it's all a tax writeoff for you, I don't sympathize
    >>>> with initial cost. I bet your claiming oil changes and such too?
    >>>>
    >>>>> BTW MalwareBytes does *not* work on the UltimateBoot4win CD, why
    >>>>> don't you get to fixing that??? *NOW*
    >>>>> Clark...
    >>>>
    >>>> MalWarebytes shouldn't be on that CD, as it's not a portable
    >>>> application. I can't control what people decide to include on their
    >>>> cds. And btw, I am not the author of MalwareBytes; Just a
    >>>> researcher. BugHunter is mine, for the record. Thanks.
    >>>
    >>> Sorry, yup Bug hunter is yours, I looked up the E-mail I sent you a
    >>> while back,

    >>
    >> No Problem.
    >>
    >>> I never use it, I must admit, but I don't use Malwarebytes either,
    >>> BUT I assumed you could contact the programers at Malwarebytes
    >>> and set everything straight for them since your such a fricken
    >>> genuis,

    >>
    >> While I do appreciate your wiseass remark regarding my intelligence,
    >> it's not as simple as you seem to think. MalWareBytes is maintained
    >> by several individuals, and has several language translations. Any
    >> change of significance to the engine requires input from ALL
    >> programmers, and some things for portability are just not a priority
    >> at the moment. This issue has been discussed at length for sometime
    >> on the forums and in private conversations between myself and the
    >> others involved, it's a huge undertaking. The application was never
    >> intended to be portable. It's not a simple utility like BugHunter.
    >>
    >> Eventually we plan to offer a portable version, but as I said, not at
    >> this time.
    >>
    >>> so I'm sure it will only take a second since I'm SURE you can clean
    >>> a Dell with a Pentium III and 128 megs of RAM with XP installed on
    >>> it in like 2 minutes....(I told you I have customers with slow PCs)
    >>> and yes

    >>
    >> 2 minutes? For XP antivirus, that can be done, yes. Lesson time.
    >>
    >> 1. Acquire a bartpe disc.
    >> 2. Boot machine from bartpe.
    >> 3. Find the files associated; Most are hard coded filenames. I know
    >> most of the variants by heart now... heh 4. Delete the files.
    >> 5. Mount the infected systems software hive in barts regedit. you
    >> know how right, mr computer fixer? 6. Edit relevant registry entries.
    >>
    >> options for even faster:
    >>
    >> Boot bart, reconfigure bughunter for non recursive quick scan, hunt
    >> the windows folder, then edit the registry. That should satisfy your
    >> anal 2 minute scan time.

    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Bart PE boot disk or the Ultimate boot disk is one of my favorite
    > tools, Thank god for the folks that have put that thing together, I
    > donate to them on a regular basis....


    It's a kickass skeleton.

    > but on a PIII with 128megs of RAM it takes at least 2 min to boot to
    > the CD. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!


    *sigh* Humour isn't a strong point for you, eh?


    > And your right I'm an incompetent ass that over charges his dummy
    > clients and rips them off


    I suspect in a certain set of areas, your perhaps, slightly ignorant,
    yes. But, you can still be taunt. As far as ripping people off, hey, I
    do the same stuff you do, or probably did at some point... *shrug*, I've
    been in this a long time. Seen many computer shops come and go, because
    some individuals seemed to believe they had what it takes to diagnose
    software and hardware these days and not confuse the two. Don't
    misunderstand, Not all computer shops have this problem; I have much
    respect for a fellow IT person whom I know in person, in fact, we live
    close to one another; but as an individual who's money hungry, I can't
    stand him. He does have respectable skills however.

    Now, when I first knew him, he was as n00b to it all as you could
    possibly be, but as time progressed and he gained more real world actual
    hands on experience, he got really good. I'm harsh on people, and very
    hard on many. It's the way I am. However, I think more good comes from
    it then bad. Due to our friendship, the fellow IT guy, gave him a great
    career earning money with the us government. I pushed him. Always one
    upped him. Now, at this point in the game, he can exceed me in some
    areas, flat outright. If your irked enough by me, you could do the same
    and be one kickass ****ing IT person yourself. And no, I'm not being a
    wiseass with you. I did that in the last post.

    Every so often, you will come across the FAQ for alt.privacy.spyware, I
    strongly encourage you to read the section on where to submit hijackthis
    logs. Some of those places offer excellent resources, training,
    knowledge and a fine set of tools to assist you.


    > I used to stick up for you buddy but I am done with you, Go finish off
    > that bottle of booze your drinkin.


    I don't drink.

    > Clark...
    > (you never noticed I misspelled genius)... grin.....


    *shrug*. If you really think I didn't pull a low shot for a spelling
    foobar was bad on my part, that's alright with me.



    --
    Regards,
    Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter
    BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org



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