On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:49:05 +0200, Gabriele Neukam wrote:
> Solution #1: Disable Java/JavaScript
OK. But nothing else will work if you do that.
> Solution #2: Disable automatic forwarding.
How?
> Solution #3: Use a browser different from the Internet Explorer
I'm using Firefox 3.0 on WinXP and this quicksand effect certainly affects
the Mozilla browsers!
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:15:23 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
> Or just use Opera!
I'm confused. I thought Mozilla Firefox was "the safe" browser?
What's different about Opera with respect to these quicksand pages?
http://thecatalogfree.net
http://www.spywareiso.com
http://antivirus-scanner.com
http://findyourlink.net
http://www.findyourlink.net
http://spywareiso2008.com
http://www.immenseclips.com
http://antivirus2009-scanner.com
Can an Opera user try these pages with Opera to see if they're quicksanded
to let us know what's different about Opera than Firefox when it hits HTML
quicksand?
In article <zhqek.14183$xZ.563@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>, Tom
<twilson3@hotmail.com> writes
>On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:15:23 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> Or just use Opera!
>
>I'm confused. I thought Mozilla Firefox was "the safe" browser?
>What's different about Opera with respect to these quicksand pages?
>http://thecatalogfree.net
>http://www.spywareiso.com
>http://antivirus-scanner.com
>http://findyourlink.net
>http://www.findyourlink.net
>http://spywareiso2008.com
>http://www.immenseclips.com
>http://antivirus2009-scanner.com
>
>Can an Opera user try these pages with Opera to see if they're quicksanded
>to let us know what's different about Opera than Firefox when it hits HTML
>quicksand?
You're joking Shirley?
It would be noble and valiant if you were to install Opera and try for
yourself.
--
Roger Hunt
On 7/13/2008 9:33 AM, Tom wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:49:05 +0200, Gabriele Neukam wrote:
>
>> Solution #1: Disable Java/JavaScript
> OK. But nothing else will work if you do that.
>
>> Solution #2: Disable automatic forwarding.
> How?
>
>> Solution #3: Use a browser different from the Internet Explorer
>
> I'm using Firefox 3.0 on WinXP and this quicksand effect certainly affects
> the Mozilla browsers!
For #1:
Install the PrefBar extension for Firefox. See
<http://prefbar.mozdev.org/>. Then setup a checkbox to enable and
disable Javascript. With Firefox 2 and SeaMonkey 1.1.10, the preference
variable is javascript.enabled. It's likely that didn't change for
Firefox 3.
With the PrefBar toolbar, you can easily switch between enabling and
disabling Javascript. Disable it when you hit "quicksand".
Also, does not the Home button on your Personal toolbar work?
--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>.
Q: What's a President Bush cocktail?
A: Business on the rocks.
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:44:42 -0500, Tom <twilson3@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:15:23 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> Or just use Opera!
>
> I'm confused. I thought Mozilla Firefox was "the safe" browser?
> What's different about Opera with respect to these quicksand pages?
> http://thecatalogfree.net
> http://www.spywareiso.com
> http://antivirus-scanner.com
> http://findyourlink.net
> http://www.findyourlink.net
> http://spywareiso2008.com
> http://www.immenseclips.com
> http://antivirus2009-scanner.com
>
> Can an Opera user try these pages with Opera to see if they're
> quicksanded
> to let us know what's different about Opera than Firefox when it hits
> HTML
> quicksand?
I tried them all, Opera alerts you to nefarious activity and you can
simply close the tab.
--
Bear Bottoms
Freeware website: http://bearware.info
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:03:54 +0100, hummingbird wrote:
> Afaik the only solution is to shut the browser down and
> enter its name in your HOSTS file, so you never go there again.
Hummingbird has a great answer!
Here's what I did when I went to an HTML kwiksand domain just now on
Firefox 3.0 on WinXP with JavaScript and Java enabled ('cuz you need 'em
for other pages).
1. I opened a tab to http://thecatalogfree.net with Firefox 3.0 on WinXP
2. I tried to kill the tab -> the html kwiksand prevented this
3. I tried to go to a new tab -> the html kwiksand prevented this
4. I tried to kill firefox -> the html kwiksand prevented this
5. Rather than kill the firefox process in the task manager ...
6. I now just type Start->Run->hosts and enter the domain
127.0.0.1 thecatalogfree.net
7. I then shift-reload my browser (to flush cache)
8. Voila! A shift-reload flushes cache & dumps the kwiksand page!
Note this one-time setup:
1. Copy hosts to host.txt and to hosts.bck
2. Start->Run->Regedit to add the following key-value pair:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths
hosts.exe = c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts.txt
Do this every time you are caught in HTML kwiksand!
1. Go to the web page http://thecatalogfree.net
2. You'll note you are stuck on that page forever
3. Rather than control alt delete kill the Firefox browser session ...
4. Just type Start -> Run -> hosts
5. Enter the domain into that hosts.txt file
127.0.0.1 thecatalogfree.net
6. Write the hosts.txt file to hosts (overwriting the hosts file)
8. Quick out of your text editing session (I used vim freeware)
9. Shift Reload your browser
10. The kwiksand web page will disappear!
Woo hoo! Hummingbird found the solution to HTML kwiksand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:58:00 -0400, Sherman Pendley wrote:
> Patient: Doctor, it hurts when I do this.
> Doctor: Then don't do that.
Hi Sherman,
The problem is that you are redirected unkwittingly to the HTML kwiksand
web pages from a variety of other entrapment pages.
It's like saying "Doctor, it hurts when someone hits me on the back of the
head" ... for the doctor to say "tell them not to hit you" won't work 'cuz
they're intent on these HTML kwiksand pages in trapping you.
Luckily the great Hummingbird came up with a solution that we can all live
with! Hooray!
Op 13-07-08 18:44 heeft Tom als volgt van zich laten horen:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:15:23 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> Or just use Opera!
>
> I'm confused. I thought Mozilla Firefox was "the safe" browser?
> What's different about Opera with respect to these quicksand pages?
> http://antivirus-scanner.com
If I click on this in Firefox 3 (on Linux, but that shouldn’t make a
difference), I get a page warning that it is a scam page, with a button
‘Get me out of here!’.
That should say enough.
H.
Tom wrote:
> How do we get out of the browser infinite loop quicksand when we navigate
> to web pages designed to lock us in and force us to hit the "pay me" button
> (whatever they want to force you to do)?
>
> These are just a sample of nasty quicksand web pages I've run into which
> lock your browser into a loop and won't let you get out until you hit the
> "install" or "run" or "OK" button... (whatever it is they want you to do).
>
> http://www.spywareiso.com
> http://antivirus-scanner.com
> http://findyourlink.net
> http://www.findyourlink.net
> http://spywareiso2008.com
> http://www.spywareiso2008.com
> http://www.immenseclips.com
> http://antivirus2009-scanner.com
> http://thecatalogfree.net
> etc.
>
> When you navigate to these quicksand links, you can not get out of their
> infinite loop with your browser no matter what you do. I'm forced to
> control alt delete and kill the browser from the task manager ... but I ask
> ...
>
> Is there a more graceful way, after the fact, to navigate away from
> quicksand domains which have a hold on your browser, other than control alt
> deleting the browser process?
I just tried all those links using nothing but FireFox 3 with javascript
and java enabled. All of them bar two failed to load. Of those, one
was blocked by OpenDNS, one was blocked by FF/antivirus/spywareblaster,
two loaded no probs although I could easily navigate away/shut them down
(spywareiso2008). The others have been taken down.
--
Me Here
Liberty lies in the rights of that person whose views you find most
odious. -- John Stuart Mill
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:09:07 -0400, David H. Lipman wrote:
> If you post possibly malicious web sites it is incumbant upon you to obfuscate the URL to
> make sure said URL is NOT clickable such as...
> hxxp://antivirus2009-scanner.com
> This will protect others from possibly getting infected.
This is a good idea. I will do so in the future!
Please do not click on the prior links.
Use these instead.
hxxp://thecatalogfree.net
hxxp://findyourlink.net
hxxp://antivirus2009-scanner.com
hxxp://www.spywareiso.com
hxxp://spywareiso2008.com
hxxp://antivirus-scanner.com
hxxp://www.immenseclips.com
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