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Thread: What's that - data access 'transparency' or a new kind of blackmail?

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    Gabriele Neukam Guest

    What's that - data access 'transparency' or a new kind of blackmail?

    Today I received this:


    ----- snip -----
    You are receiving this email because *someone* found you when searching
    for you or for *somebody related to* you on Whozat, The People Search
    Engine. We wanted to share this information with you and let you know
    some of what they found!

    In addition, we are offering you a free Whozat membership that allows
    you to see the complete set of search results for yourself and others,
    and to perform an unlimited number of queries. Please accept your
    invitation by going to
    http://www.whozat.com/auth/register/...hozat_39642_39

    Some of the most significant words in the search results were:
    wrote, forum, archive, please consider

    Some of the web pages that the searcher found were:
    http://www.gamesforum.ca/archive/index.php/t-19418.html
    http://www.smstoday.co.uk/blog/2007/04/
    http://talkaboutvideo.com/group/alt....testposts.html
    http://www.talkaboutvideo.com/group/....dvd.complain/
    http://qaix.com/software-computer-he...ers-read.shtml


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    ----- snip -----

    Looking at the results provided in the mail I found that one link
    points to a mirror of usenet groups, and rather old. All others won't
    mention me at all. No wonder, as I am neither interested in *any* kind
    of messaging nor any movies. Go figure.

    So, contrary to their claims they are obviously worse than Google
    Groups, which wouldn't miss that grossly.

    What does that mean? Do they want me to pull into their Idunnowhatitis,
    is it meant as a warning that they now have me entrenched in their data
    files and will begin to pummel me with their useless "notifications"?
    Will they (ab)use my adress (which has been the target of spammers for
    years) and sell it to other persons?

    Why do they want me to *opt out* though I never have visited their
    domain at all? They even conceded that "someone else" (I would rally
    like to know who, after they had given my address away so graciously)
    did it, a person which must have inadvertently hit a few links while
    looking up a few unimportant discussions.

    Is this a new kind of "user embrace", meaning: either follow our rules
    or you'll never ever get out of our data files again?


    Annoyed,

    Gabriele Neukam

    Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam@t-online.de

    --
    If everybody started to do what they think should be done for the
    common
    good, democracy would not exist anymore.
    -
    Guillermito in alt.comp.virus



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    Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries Guest

    Re: What's that - data access 'transparency' or a new kind of blackmail?

    Gabriele Neukam wrote:
    > Today I received this:


    <snipped>

    > Looking at the results provided in the mail I found that one link
    > points to a mirror of usenet groups, and rather old. All others won't
    > mention me at all. No wonder, as I am neither interested in *any* kind
    > of messaging nor any movies. Go figure.
    >
    > So, contrary to their claims they are obviously worse than Google
    > Groups, which wouldn't miss that grossly.


    The website says it's still in beta.

    > What does that mean? Do they want me to pull into their
    > Idunnowhatitis, is it meant as a warning that they now have me
    > entrenched in their data files and will begin to pummel me with their
    > useless "notifications"? Will they (ab)use my adress (which has been
    > the target of spammers for years) and sell it to other persons?
    >
    > Why do they want me to *opt out* though I never have visited their
    > domain at all? They even conceded that "someone else" (I would rally
    > like to know who, after they had given my address away so graciously)
    > did it, a person which must have inadvertently hit a few links while
    > looking up a few unimportant discussions.
    >
    > Is this a new kind of "user embrace", meaning: either follow our rules
    > or you'll never ever get out of our data files again?


    http://www.abinventio.com/

    http://www.ostina.org/content/view/3042/

    They claim to have been recognized by TechCrunch, but I can't find any
    such recognition.

    > Annoyed,
    >
    > Gabriele Neukam
    >
    > Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam@t-online.de


    --
    Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

    If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
    scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
    refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
    which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
    will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
    explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell



  3. #3
    Charani Guest

    Re: What's that - data access 'transparency' or a new kind of blackmail?

    On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:18:21 +0200, Gabriele Neukam wrote:

    8>< snip
    > In addition, we are offering you a free Whozat membership that allows
    > you to see the complete set of search results for yourself and others,
    > and to perform an unlimited number of queries.

    8>< snip

    That's the key part. I doubt anyone was searching for you and it's
    more likely to be a spam mail, esp as it has a referral code in the
    URL.

    I've had similar mails from sites claiming that someone is/was looking
    for me but they were sent to an address I wouldn't use for such a site
    plus if someone was looking for me, I'm easy enough to find without
    the use of such a site. One favourite is that an old friend had found
    me in a year book. Year books are an American thing and I'm not
    American so I couldn't have been found in one.

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