I have decided to ditch IE7 for something a bit more secure. I have looked
at Firefox 3 and Opera 9.5.
I really like a few features of Opera, but was wondering how secure is it?
I know IE is not very secure, but have not had any problems with it, so even
a small improvement will satisfy me.
Villie Melson wrote:
> I have decided to ditch IE7 for something a bit more secure.
Congratulations!
> I have looked at Firefox 3 and Opera 9.5.
Both good choices.
> I really like a few features of Opera, but was wondering how secure is it?
See for yourself. <g>
http://secunia.com/product/12366/ IE 7
http://secunia.com/product/10615/ Opera 9
http://secunia.com/product/19089/ Firefox 3
> I know IE is not very secure, but have not had any problems with it,
> so even a small improvement will satisfy me.
I use both Opera and Firefox regularly, no reason you can't as well.
There are no restrictions on installing/using multiple browsers.
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 1015 -0400, Villie Melson wrote:
> I have decided to ditch IE7 for something a bit more secure. I have looked
> at Firefox 3 and Opera 9.5.
> I really like a few features of Opera, but was wondering how secure is it?
> I know IE is not very secure, but have not had any problems with it, so even
> a small improvement will satisfy me.
1. Most Critical Unpatched
The most severe unpatched Secunia advisory affecting Mozilla Firefox 3.x,
with all vendor patches applied, is rated *Highly critical*.
2. Most Critical Unpatched
The most severe unpatched Secunia advisory affecting Microsoft Internet
Explorer 7.x, with all vendor patches applied, is rated *Moderately
critical*.
3. Most Critical Unpatched
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all
vendor patches are applied.
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10
wrote:
>I have decided to ditch IE7 for something a bit more secure. I have looked
>at Firefox 3 and Opera 9.5.
>I really like a few features of Opera, but was wondering how secure is it?
>I know IE is not very secure, but have not had any problems with it, so even
>a small improvement will satisfy me.
>
Good decision.
I've been using Firefox for >10 years now and haven't experienced a
single security problem. I use the Ad Block and No Scripts extension
plug ins and am still using Firefox/2.0.0.2.
No Scripts allows you to selectively determine which sites can use
scripting - a source of malware. You do have to remember it is there,
and allow scripting for the sites that need it (but you don't need to
allow google analytics or other spyware scripts that a lot of
commercial sites do use)
Ad Block takes care of the crap a lot of sites use to make money - and
it can be updated manually or automatically as new ads become
prevalent, and customized for a site - get rid of the various title
bars that mean nothing and take time to load.
There's a Flash Block extension - but I determined that
Adobe/Macromedia flash is too un secure to trust, and don't use it -
for instance to disable your web cam or microphone from being accessed
you have to go to their web site and trust that the choices you enter
are going to be honored.
Another invaluable tool is an Internet Throughput Meter - I use DU
meter. It tells you upload and download speeds and will alert you to
a running process that shouldn't be running, as well as tell you how
fast your software, Internet provider or visited site does speed wise.
There are some sites that don't follow Internet protocols - will work
with MS but not Firefox (I've only found two myself) for those I keep
Opera around - but Opera is slow.
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default wrote:
> I've been using Firefox for >10 years now ...
You must have been on the development team! ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla...elease_history
Originally called Phoenix - release date: September 23, 2002
> There are some sites that don't follow Internet protocols - will work
> with MS but not Firefox (I've only found two myself)
...and those truly-IE-only sites are usually ActiveX-based. Write to the
authors and tell 'em the problem - that perchance less than half of
their visitors can use the site.
> for those I keep Opera around - but Opera is slow.
Do you have a bunch of widgets added to Opera? Normally, Opera is the
fastest of the bunch.
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:10:54 -0400, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote:
>default wrote:
>
>> I've been using Firefox for >10 years now ...
>
>You must have been on the development team! ;-)
I started with Netscape Mosaic when it was a baby, then switched to
FF.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla...elease_history
>Originally called Phoenix - release date: September 23, 2002
>
>> There are some sites that don't follow Internet protocols - will work
>> with MS but not Firefox (I've only found two myself)
>
>..and those truly-IE-only sites are usually ActiveX-based. Write to the
>authors and tell 'em the problem - that perchance less than half of
>their visitors can use the site.
>
>> for those I keep Opera around - but Opera is slow.
>
>Do you have a bunch of widgets added to Opera? Normally, Opera is the
>fastest of the bunch.
I don't have any widgets on Opera - just seems slow as molasses. But
the truth of the matter is I'm more comfortable with FF and as a
result only use Opera when absolutely necessary; it may be those
sites that are slow.
Regarding your sig file. Are you using Linux? Which distro? What
would you recommend for a newb?
I got Redhat up and running years ago but it was a pain. Did some
experimenting with a few open distros and liked the Knoppix best.
And last but not least, is there a way to auto boot into windows so my
wife won't have to deal with it? I want to put the Linux on its own
drive and use the bios to boot to it, if there's no easier way.
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default wrote:
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
<snippage>
>> Do you have a bunch of widgets added to Opera? Normally, Opera is the
>> fastest of the bunch.
>
> I don't have any widgets on Opera - just seems slow as molasses. But
> the truth of the matter is I'm more comfortable with FF and as a
> result only use Opera when absolutely necessary; it may be those
> sites that are slow.
I'd guess that - if you need to use a different browser for a site - the
site itself has some kind of problem. There are many (very many?) web
authors who do not bother, nor know how, to optimize their work.
> Regarding your sig file. Are you using Linux? Which distro? What
> would you recommend for a newb?
1. Yes. 2. Ubuntu 8.04 3. Ubuntu 8.04
No, I'm not a newb; I just like it. I also like the 40tude Dialog
Windows newsreader, so I run it in Wine.
> I got Redhat up and running years ago but it was a pain. Did some
> experimenting with a few open distros and liked the Knoppix best.
I keep a recent Knoppix LiveCD handy for help with recovering/repairing
the Windows computers of people with .. well, problems. To me, Knoppix
seems to be best for this task, but not as a complete OS.
> And last but not least, is there a way to auto boot into windows so
> my wife won't have to deal with it? I want to put the Linux on its
> own drive and use the bios to boot to it, if there's no easier way.
Sure. You can edit the grub boot menu to put Windows first, and auto-run
in, say, 10 seconds (or less, but then you would have to be quick when
you want to use Ubuntu and select another). I think 10 seconds is the
default time.
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:40:40 -0400, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote:
Thanks for the comments on Linux.
I just got a new barebones and want to try it with Linux.
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>snip
> I keep a recent Knoppix LiveCD handy for help with recovering/repairing
> the Windows computers of people with .. well, problems. To me, Knoppix
> seems to be best for this task, but not as a complete OS.
>snip
Old dog here trying to lean a new trick
Looking for the Knoppix LiveCD I find it's available using BitTorrent
with what appears to be two versions?
KNOPPIX_V5.1.1CD-2007-01-04-EN
KNOPPIX_V5.3.1DVD-2008-03-26-EN
Old dog doesn't do BitTorrent so I also found it at:
http://archive.cs.stedwards.edu/knoppix/
with a version I can convert to a CD:
KNOPPIX_V5.1.1CD-2007-01-04-EN.iso
This will boot from CD just like the Ubuntu 8.04 CD I made earlier?
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JD wrote:
> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> I keep a recent Knoppix LiveCD handy for help with
>> recovering/repairing the Windows computers of people with .. well,
>> problems. To me, Knoppix seems to be best for this task, but not as
>> a complete OS.
>
> Looking for the Knoppix LiveCD I find it's available using BitTorrent
> with what appears to be two versions?
I don't do torrents either.
> http://archive.cs.stedwards.edu/knoppix/
> with a version I can convert to a CD:
>
> KNOPPIX_V5.1.1CD-2007-01-04-EN.iso
>
> This will boot from CD just like the Ubuntu 8.04 CD I made earlier?
Yes. Download the above .iso and burn to CD just like you did with the
Ubuntu.
Lots of mirrors listed here. Pick one nearby.
http://knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html
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