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  1. #21
    Dustin Cook Guest

    Re: Verizon will be banning alt newsgroups

    "pcbutts1 [MS MVP]" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in
    news:U9e5k.4166$L_.2258@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com:

    > Databasix used to filter out his email address because of his constant
    > spamming them with bogus abuse reports about me. They told me they
    > warned him if he didn't stop they would give me all of his info.
    >


    I seriously doubt Databasix would give you anything besides an account.
    While I strongly dislike the fact you could get one, I understand the
    reasoning and concepts behind the server.


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    Regards,
    Dustin Cook - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    BugHunter v2.2e AntiMalware Removal Utility
    For Windows users, I highly recommend:
    http://www.malwarebytes.org - MalwareBytes AntiMalware


  2. #22
    dewey edwards Guest

    Re: Verizon will be banning alt newsgroups

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:58:49 GMT, Dustin Cook
    <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:

    >"Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com> wrote in news:g33695$h5$1
    >@blackhelicopter.databasix.com:


    >>> Does this server carry binaries?

    >>
    >> No. I don't know of any good free or low-cost binary news servers.
    >>

    >
    >****!
    >
    >Rhonda, if you should happen to come across a reasonably priced server
    >offering access to the binaries groups, please let me know.


    Not Rhonda, but

    http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php

    From $2.95 per month
    (yes, carries binaries)

    https://newsaccount20.forteinc.com/list-groups.php

  3. #23
    Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries Guest

    Re: Verizon will be banning alt newsgroups

    XS11E wrote:
    > "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Most of the truly free servers don't have great retention, and
    >> they miss a lot of posts.

    >
    > I use Motzarella and have no problems with retention or missed posts?


    In the grand scheme of things, Motzarella goes down more often than the
    commercial servers, and if it doesn't lose all that many posts,
    sometimes they take longer to arrive. Individual.net rarely goes down
    and it never misses a post. Neither one carries binaries.

    At the moment, I have acounts with DataBasix, Altopia, Datemas,
    Motzarella, NIN and X-Privat, so that's my current personal basis for
    comparison in this discussion.

    --
    Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

    If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
    scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
    refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
    which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
    will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
    explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell



  4. #24
    Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries Guest

    Re: Verizon will be banning alt newsgroups

    pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
    > Databasix used to filter out his email address because of his constant
    > spamming them with bogus abuse reports about me. They told me they
    > warned him if he didn't stop they would give me all of his info.


    I don't know how you evaded my filters, but you can be sure you're going
    straight back into my killfile, dip****.

    Also, I note that you are not posting from DataBasix now.

    > "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com> wrote in message
    > news:g33765$2l9$2@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    >> David H. Lipman wrote:
    >>> From: "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com>
    >>>
    >>>> David H. Lipman wrote:
    >>>>> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
    >>>>
    >>>> Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
    >>>> non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs
    >>>> less than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have
    >>>> great retention, and they miss a lot of posts.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> My requirements are thus...
    >>>
    >>> I don't mind paying a modest yearly fee. Here's what I am looking
    >>> for...
    >>>
    >>> 1. Binaries. I won't be downloading that much per month.
    >>> Definitely less than 200MB/month

    >>
    >> This is the problem. You might want to get an individual.net account
    >> and then buy a block from octanews:
    >>
    >> http://www.octanews.com/pricing.php
    >>
    >> I don't do binaries, so I just don't know.
    >>
    >>> 2. Allows obfuscating email address as I do here.

    >>
    >> See above.
    >>
    >>> 3. Doesn't too aggressively block spam. I need to see the BS to
    >>> find malware and malicious activity, etc.

    >>
    >> Well, there goes individual.net, I think. You might need to go to
    >> Altopia. Me, I'm very happy with DataBasix, but I don't think it
    >> would suit
    >> your specific needs, although you could discuss it with support and
    >> see what can be worked out. DataBasix is pretty flexible, and if
    >> it's possible to accomodate you, it will.
    >>
    >>> 4. Does not append a NSP spam signature to every post.

    >>
    >> Yeah, ain't that annoying?
    >>
    >> <groups snecked>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
    >>
    >> If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
    >> scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he
    >> will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered
    >> something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his
    >> instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The
    >> origin of myths is
    >> explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell


    --
    Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

    If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
    scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
    refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
    which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
    will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
    explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell




  5. #25
    Leythos Guest

    Re: Verizon will be banning alt newsgroups

    In article <U9e5k.4166$L_.2258@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>, pcbutts1
    @leythosthestalker.com says...
    > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
    > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
    >

    The truth about Butts is found in the links in my sig

    --
    Leythos - spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 to email me)
    Public Service Warning: Learn about PCButts before you trust:
    http://www.velocityreviews.com/forum...-removeit.html
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pcbutts1+thief

  6. #26
    pcbutts1 [MS MVP] Guest

    Re: Verizon will be banning alt newsgroups

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    At 11:58 AM 3/18/2007, you wrote:
    >I posted that in direct response to a question asked about the Zlob
    >virus. There is nothing for sale on my website, there is nothing to
    >download on my website, they are asked to email me directly for my
    >free software to remove that spyware.


    Yes, I know. I'm just making it clear so you don't accidentally
    cross any "lines".

    > My post is on topic and I only use it in response to questioned
    > asked about a specific malware/spyware that I can help them remove.


    See above. We'll gladly defend your ability to post as long as you
    don't SPAM. So far, you're not.

    > This is nothing more then a Flamewar between me and certain people
    > in those groups that don't like me.


    Yep. That's very clear. In fact, that's what I said to the
    complainer in his second email. He's already threatening to get
    someone to sue us over you.

    > I read on your page that you do not get involved in flamewars,
    > that's all this is.


    Yep.

    >I'm glad I'm not in any trouble ;0) but just to let you know you
    >will probably get more complaints.


    Nothing new.

    >They have been doing that for over 3 years now. I will not violate
    >your TOS/AUP that is a promise.


    Excellent.

    > Who was it that complained this time?


    We're not allowed to disclose that unless the author gives permission.


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    We're receiving complaints about DMCA violations for a website we don't
    host.

    We've informed the luser that we have no control over that site.

    Just a reminder that posting a link to that site is in no way a
    violation of DMCA nor our AUP.




    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "DataBasix Policy Management" <xxxxxxxx@databasix.com>
    To: "pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@pcbutts1.com>
    Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:10 AM
    Subject: Re: DMCA violation


    > At 11:53 PM 6/8/2007, you wrote:
    >>Ok Thanks. Can you forward me the complaint or tell me who it was and what
    >>link they complained about?

    >
    > Not yet. We added this to the last response:
    >
    > READ THIS PART CAREFULLY: Further emails from you are
    > unwanted. By sending even one more email, including a reply to this
    > correspondence, you are giving us permission to send all new and
    > previous correspondence to the user you are targeting so that they
    > may take what ever action they see as appropriate.
    >
    > So that if said person emails again, we'll be able to send you all emails.
    >
    >
    >>----- Original Message ----- From: "DataBasix Policy Management"
    >><xxxxxxxxx@databasix.com>
    >>To: <pcbutts1@seedsv.com>
    >>Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 4:42 PM
    >>Subject: Fwd: DMCA violation
    >>
    >>
    >>>We're receiving complaints about DMCA violations for a website we don't
    >>>host.
    >>>
    >>>We've informed the luser that we have no control over that site.
    >>>
    >>>Just a reminder that posting a link to that site is in no way a violation
    >>>of DMCA nor our AUP.

    >>

    >


    --
    Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
    obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.




    "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns9ABEA344DDE98HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121.. .
    > "pcbutts1 [MS MVP]" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in
    > news:U9e5k.4166$L_.2258@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com:
    >
    >> Databasix used to filter out his email address because of his constant
    >> spamming them with bogus abuse reports about me. They told me they
    >> warned him if he didn't stop they would give me all of his info.
    >>

    >
    > I seriously doubt Databasix would give you anything besides an account.
    > While I strongly dislike the fact you could get one, I understand the
    > reasoning and concepts behind the server.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Regards,
    > Dustin Cook - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    > BugHunter v2.2e AntiMalware Removal Utility
    > For Windows users, I highly recommend:
    > http://www.malwarebytes.org - MalwareBytes AntiMalware
    >



  7. #27
    John Pollard Guest

    Re: Verizon will be banning alt newsgroups

    Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries wrote:

    Thanks for your observations about this problem. I have reported
    similar problems with my ISP (Mediacom) for several years

    When I first encountered the problem with them (they only carry
    posts for about 24 hours) - several years ags and mentioned it
    to them ... they said that every ISP was doing (or going to do)
    the same thing. Unfortunately, I had no way to verify - by
    experience - what they claimed: I can not get high-speed
    internet from any source but my cable company (or a satellite
    company, which I do not think will be an improvement): my local
    phone company monopoly does not offer DSL in my area.

    I do not object to paying my way; it may be possible that there
    is no economic way to provide "free" newsgroup service. I
    suspect that we may need to give the issue greater thought.

    [By the way: to save me from having to research Bertrand
    Russell's writings; can you tell me if the "man" referred to in
    the quote in your signature refers to man, the homo-sapien, or
    to someone of the male gender?]

    --

    John Pollard
    First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
    Please reply to newsgroup



  8. #28
    Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries Guest

    Re: Verizon will be banning alt newsgroups

    John Pollard wrote:
    > Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries wrote:
    >
    > Thanks for your observations about this problem. I have reported
    > similar problems with my ISP (Mediacom) for several years
    >
    > When I first encountered the problem with them (they only carry
    > posts for about 24 hours) - several years ags and mentioned it
    > to them ... they said that every ISP was doing (or going to do)
    > the same thing. Unfortunately, I had no way to verify - by
    > experience - what they claimed: I can not get high-speed
    > internet from any source but my cable company (or a satellite
    > company, which I do not think will be an improvement): my local
    > phone company monopoly does not offer DSL in my area.


    There are more than a thousand usenet providers. Some of them are quite
    good, some suck.

    > I do not object to paying my way; it may be possible that there
    > is no economic way to provide "free" newsgroup service. I
    > suspect that we may need to give the issue greater thought.
    >
    > [By the way: to save me from having to research Bertrand
    > Russell's writings; can you tell me if the "man" referred to in
    > the quote in your signature refers to man, the homo-sapien, or
    > to someone of the male gender?]


    Mankind, male, female and indeterminate.

    --
    Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

    If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
    scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
    refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
    which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
    will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
    explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell



  9. #29
    RsH Guest

    Re: Verizon will be banning alt newsgroups

    AstraWeb... I have a 90 gigabyte indefininte download account for a
    reasonable one time price of $25, and after 3 years still have about
    85 gigs left to go. They definitely have the binaries.

    RsH
    ----------------------------------------------------
    On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:58:49 GMT, Dustin Cook
    <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:

    >"Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com> wrote in news:g33695$h5$1
    >@blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
    >
    >> Han wrote:
    >>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com> wrote in
    >>> news:g33077$fs9$2 @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
    >>>
    >>>> David H. Lipman wrote:
    >>>>> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
    >>>>
    >>>> Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
    >>>> non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs
    >>>> less than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have
    >>>> great retention, and they miss a lot of posts.
    >>>>
    >>> Does this server carry binaries?

    >>
    >> No. I don't know of any good free or low-cost binary news servers.
    >>

    >
    >****!
    >
    >Rhonda, if you should happen to come across a reasonably priced server
    >offering access to the binaries groups, please let me know.


  10. #30
    Dustin Cook Guest

    Re: Verizon will be banning alt newsgroups

    dewey edwards <please_snip@YOOHOO.yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:5g0b541rqv39ik8lenccm9ve61a3fn4nfb@4ax.com:

    > http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php
    >
    > From $2.95 per month
    > (yes, carries binaries)
    >
    > https://newsaccount20.forteinc.com/list-groups.php
    >


    Thanks!


    --
    Regards,
    Dustin Cook - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    BugHunter v2.2e AntiMalware Removal Utility
    For Windows users, I highly recommend:
    http://www.malwarebytes.org - MalwareBytes AntiMalware


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