Verizon will be banning alt newsgroups

[Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries]

Han wrote:
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com> wrote in
> news:g33077$fs9$2 @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
>>
>> Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
>> non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs
>> less than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have
>> great retention, and they miss a lot of posts.
>>
> Does this server carry binaries?

No. I don't know of any good free or low-cost binary news servers.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell

[Roy Starrin]

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:57:12 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
<nimue@databasix.com> wrote:

>David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
>>>
>>
>> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
>
>Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
>non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs less
>than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have great
>retention, and they miss a lot of posts.
This provider http://www.teranews.com/ came recommended in a DSL
forum.
It is free for 50mb daily, $7.95 for 250 mb daily. I have no idea how
good it is. You can also pay more and get more
And, I have no idea how many messages in how many newsgroups it takes
to meet those limits

[Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries]

Roy Starrin wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:57:12 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
> <nimue@databasix.com> wrote:
>
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
>>
>> Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
>> non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs
>> less than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have
>> great retention, and they miss a lot of posts.
> This provider http://www.teranews.com/ came recommended in a DSL
> forum.
> It is free for 50mb daily, $7.95 for 250 mb daily. I have no idea how
> good it is. You can also pay more and get more
> And, I have no idea how many messages in how many newsgroups it takes
> to meet those limits

Teranews ain't great.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com>

| David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>>
>>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
>>>
>> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
|
| Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
| non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs less
| than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have great
| retention, and they miss a lot of posts.
|

My requirements are thus...

I don't mind paying a modest yearly fee. Here's what I am looking for...

1. Binaries. I won't be downloading that much per month. Definitely less than
200MB/month

2. Allows obfuscating email address as I do here.

3. Doesn't too aggressively block spam. I need to see the BS to find malware and
malicious activity, etc.

4. Does not append a NSP spam signature to every post.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[Leythos]

In article <%H85k.43005$Xu2.20104@trnddc04>, DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net
says...
> From: "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com>
>
> | David H. Lipman wrote:
> >> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
> >>>
> >> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
> |
> | Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
> | non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs less
> | than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have great
> | retention, and they miss a lot of posts.
> |
>
> My requirements are thus...
>
> I don't mind paying a modest yearly fee. Here's what I am looking for...
>
> 1. Binaries. I won't be downloading that much per month. Definitely less than
> 200MB/month
>
> 2. Allows obfuscating email address as I do here.
>
> 3. Doesn't too aggressively block spam. I need to see the BS to find malware and
> malicious activity, etc.
>
> 4. Does not append a NSP spam signature to every post.

I use Usenet.com for the above.

They provide 110K groups, they have plans for 2GB/mo to Unlimited, they
remove all identity, they don't block anything, and they offer a
different server address that doesn't append spam to your posts.

Downside - the server that doesn't append spam has a very short
disconnect time, so you have to reconnect from time to time, but I've
not found that to be an issue.

http://www.usenet.com/index.htm

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

[Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries]

David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com>
>
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
>>>>
>>> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
>>
>> Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
>> non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs
>> less than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have
>> great retention, and they miss a lot of posts.
>>
>
> My requirements are thus...
>
> I don't mind paying a modest yearly fee. Here's what I am looking
> for...
>
> 1. Binaries. I won't be downloading that much per month.
> Definitely less than 200MB/month

This is the problem. You might want to get an individual.net account and
then buy a block from octanews:

http://www.octanews.com/pricing.php

I don't do binaries, so I just don't know.

> 2. Allows obfuscating email address as I do here.

See above.

> 3. Doesn't too aggressively block spam. I need to see the BS to
> find malware and malicious activity, etc.

Well, there goes individual.net, I think. You might need to go to
Altopia.

Me, I'm very happy with DataBasix, but I don't think it would suit your
specific needs, although you could discuss it with support and see what
can be worked out. DataBasix is pretty flexible, and if it's possible to
accomodate you, it will.

> 4. Does not append a NSP spam signature to every post.

Yeah, ain't that annoying?

<groups snecked>

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell

[Dustin Cook]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:%H85k.43005$Xu2.20104@trnddc04:

> From: "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com>
>
>| David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
>>>>
>>> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
>|
>| Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
>| non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs
>| less than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have
>| great retention, and they miss a lot of posts.
>|
>
> My requirements are thus...
>
> I don't mind paying a modest yearly fee. Here's what I am looking
> for...
>
> 1. Binaries. I won't be downloading that much per month.
> Definitely less than 200MB/month
>
> 2. Allows obfuscating email address as I do here.
>
> 3. Doesn't too aggressively block spam. I need to see the BS to
> find malware and malicious activity, etc.
>
> 4. Does not append a NSP spam signature to every post.
>

Yes, I have the same requirements/needs. So I'll be monitoring and
hoping someone knows of a decent one.


--
Regards,
Dustin Cook - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
BugHunter v2.2e AntiMalware Removal Utility
For Windows users, I highly recommend:
http://www.malwarebytes.org - MalwareBytes AntiMalware

[XS11E]

"Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com> wrote:

> Most of the truly free servers don't have great retention, and
> they miss a lot of posts.

I use Motzarella and have no problems with retention or missed posts?




--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org

[Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries]

XS11E wrote:
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com> wrote:
>
>> Most of the truly free servers don't have great retention, and
>> they miss a lot of posts.
>
> I use Motzarella and have no problems with retention or missed posts?

In the grand scheme of things, Motzarella goes down more often than the
commercial servers, and if it doesn't lose all that many posts,
sometimes they take longer to arrive. Individual.net rarely goes down
and it never misses a post. Neither one carries binaries.

At the moment, I have acounts with DataBasix, Altopia, Datemas,
Motzarella, NIN and X-Privat, so that's my current personal basis for
comparison in this discussion.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell