On May 18, 3:59*pm, "Sebastian G." <se...@seppig.de> wrote:
> aljuhani wrote:
> > We can only suggest available tools.
>
> No, we can also suggest methods and procedures. That is, ensuring that
> there's no keylogger in first place.
Absolutely agree but needed to define an initial start point.
Now given the nature of such software, monitoring Network traffic
would be the appropriate method to start with.
On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:52:54 -0400, Steve B. wrote:
> http://www.spectorsoft.com/products/...quirements.asp
> and call the support department to find out what the key sequence is
> to bring up the application. If it works then you know it is there.
When I pressed CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-S, nothing happened (that is the default
method of bringing up the program) but according to what I read, the
Spector program can be configured to bring it up using any other key
combination.
I also checked the registry key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
ShellServiceObjectDelayLoad and C:\windows\system32 as described at
http://www.farmfreshmeat.com/2007/04...keylogger.html
It doesn't seem to be here. That's good. I'll go to the Spector web site to
see what I can find out about disabling the program anyway, just to be
sure.
On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:52:54 -0400, Steve B. wrote:
> You could also get your own copy
In the spirit of the best defence is a good offense, I went to the Spector
web site to find out something very interesting.
They disable the keylogging software remotely if they find you using it on
another machine. Hmmm... how do they know if you've used it on another
machine.
Taking advantage of that 'feature', all we'd have to do is make our
machines "look" like another machine and the software would disable itself.
Pretty simple. Now, the question is, how does Spector "know" what machine
it's running on? And, how would we spoof that item?
Does anyone know what to do to "spoof" another computer?
Note: Here is their license information saysing what I summarize above:
http://www.spectorsoft.com/support/S...ndows/faq.html
The Spector Pro software license agreement allows a user to install on an
additional computer, if the new installation is being done to a computer
that is replacing the original computer which Spector Pro was installed.
The original computer must be taken out of service.
This policy allows customers who are upgrading to newer computers the
ability to continue to use their Spector Pro license with their new
computer. This transfer of the license from an old computer to a new
computer can only be done once. Any installations of a Spector Pro serial
number on more than two computers or on 2 or more computers simultaneously,
will result in the Spector Pro serial number being disabled and the
software being deactivated.
"Donna" wrote in <news:AAaYj.9093$nl7.7023@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>:
> In the spirit of the best defence is a good offense, I went to the Spector
> web site to find out something very interesting.
>
> They disable the keylogging software remotely if they find you using it on
> another machine. Hmmm... how do they know if you've used it on another
> machine.
>
> Taking advantage of that 'feature', all we'd have to do is make our
> machines "look" like another machine and the software would disable itself.
>
> Pretty simple. Now, the question is, how does Spector "know" what machine
> it's running on? And, how would we spoof that item?
>
> Does anyone know what to do to "spoof" another computer?
Oh, so the "problem" wasn't what you claimed it to be in your first
post.
From: "G. Morgan" <no_em@il.invalid>
| I've seen this individual trolling in several other NG's including
| alt.comp.freeware, news.software.readers, and alt.home.repair.
| Same Modus operandi is taking shape here already. Don't let me stop y'all
| from replying - this one has the potential for 300+ deep.
Thanx!
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
On May 19, 1:23*pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
wrote:
> | I've seen this individual trolling in several other NG's including
> | alt.comp.freeware, news.software.readers, and alt.home.repair.
G. Morgan is an idiot.
He can't stand it when people have manners and use the groups
properly.
I googled for these posts and found them all to be reasonable and
informative with pictures and URLs and phone numbers all.
They are limited to certain newsgroups. They are all on topic. They
all are cheerful and attentive.
What Morgan doesn't like is the system working. He really can't stand
when it works well.
Look up HIS posts for example.
He's got nothing to offer except to malign good people's reputations.
Idiot.
G. Morgan is an idiot.
From: <execadmin158@gmail.com>
| G. Morgan is an idiot.
| He can't stand it when people have manners and use the groups
| properly.
| I googled for these posts and found them all to be reasonable and
| informative with pictures and URLs and phone numbers all.
| They are limited to certain newsgroups. They are all on topic. They
| all are cheerful and attentive.
| What Morgan doesn't like is the system working. He really can't stand
| when it works well.
| Look up HIS posts for example.
| He's got nothing to offer except to malign good people's reputations.
| Idiot.
| G. Morgan is an idiot.
The information I have seen "G. Morgan" post is contrary to what you state.
You both have rights to your respective opinions.
The difference is Google Groupers don't have the credence of those who use News Clients.
BTW: Keylogger questions are indeed OT for alt.internet.wireless which negates your
statement.
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
G. Morgan wrote:
> David H. Lipman wrote:
>
>> The information I have seen "G. Morgan" post is contrary to what you state.
>>
>> You both have rights to your respective opinions.
>
>
> Thanks David, on a side note... I bookmarked one of your pages just yesterday
> on the topic of security. Thanx for that>>
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
If you carried these out, then... well... you spent a lot of time for
achieving absolutely nothing.
G. Morgan wrote:
>> If you carried these out, then... well... you spent a lot of time for
>> achieving absolutely nothing.
>
> Ahh Sebastian, I've read your stuff. Your the one who thinks a clean
> re-install is the only way to remove crapware, eh?
Not if you have a decent backup. At any rate, this is not a matter of
opinions, but simple scientific facts.
On Tue, 20 May 2008 02:24:41 +0000 (UTC), G. Morgan wrote:
> Sebastian G. wrote:
>
>>G. Morgan wrote:
>>
>>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>>
>>>> The information I have seen "G. Morgan" post is contrary to what you state.
>>>>
>>>> You both have rights to your respective opinions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks David, on a side note... I bookmarked one of your pages just yesterday
>>> on the topic of security. Thanx for that>>
>>> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
>>
>>
>>If you carried these out, then... well... you spent a lot of time for
>>achieving absolutely nothing.
>
> Ahh Sebastian, I've read your stuff. Your the one who thinks a clean
> re-install is the only way to remove crapware, eh?
Just ignore this person! He has wealth of knowledge but is incapable to
pass it on to those in need. He does not believe that newsgroups should be
used as a vehicle to provide (specific) assistance, go figure.
Reformatting of HDD is the preferred course of action!
"The only way to clean a compromised system is to flatten and rebuild.
That¢s right. If you have a system that has been completely compromised,
the only thing you can do is to flatten the system (reformat the system
disk) and rebuild it from scratch (re-install Windows and your
applications)..."
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...mt/sm0504.mspx
There are however a number of reasons where this may not be possible and/or
achievable. Not everybody is technically apt to so or has an 'savvy'
acquaintance who may be able to assist. There are many users who don't live
in cities but reside in less developed environments where professional help
just does not exist. They may find the procedures as per:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
too overwhelming and shy away from the perceived complexity.
The procedures as per:
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
(especially David's MULTI_AV Tool) have had helped solving uncountable
users over many years. And is IMO the next best thing to flatten and
rebuild an operating system. Moreover, the best to my knowledge, David
never has never denied anybody reasonable assistance figuring out malware
challenges.
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