AVG Free version update to vers. 8 ???

[CGB]

Dave and Gaz, I think I agree with you both.

I ran a full scan with AVG version 8 after already having negative scans
from Spybot, Adaware, A-squared, and using Spyware Blaster. CCleaner had
shown no registry issues (I know it's not an antispyware thing but just
threw this info in fwiw.) AVG version 8 found "no infections" and "no
spyware," but it gave 214 warnings!!! I'm pretty sure my machine is clean
and I opted to not let it clean out the warnings, all of which would have
required it to edit the registry!

Interesting. I don't know what to make of the "warnings" which say all
those things are "potentially dangerous."

Carl


"Dave Seven" <notfor@email.invalid> wrote in message
news:b5HTj.116502$Cj7.108330@pd7urf2no...
> Gaz wrote:
>
>> Version 8 by the way is awful, it has a much greater footprint then
>> avg7.5, the scanning engine is much much slower, it is sluggish and adds
>> considerable time to boot up. I would no longer recommend AVG for an
>> older machine (less then 1gb and slower then dual core).
>>
>> Gaz
>
> It scans for spyware too and not just virus now so that is probably why.

[jen]

"CGB" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Dave and Gaz, I think I agree with you both.
> I ran a full scan with AVG version 8 after already having negative
> scans from Spybot, Adaware, A-squared, and using Spyware Blaster.
> CCleaner had shown no registry issues (I know it's not an antispyware
> thing but just threw this info in fwiw.) AVG version 8 found "no
> infections" and "no spyware," but it gave 214 warnings!!! I'm pretty
> sure my machine is clean and I opted to not let it clean out the
> warnings, all of which would have required it to edit the registry!
> Interesting. I don't know what to make of the "warnings" which say
> all those things are "potentially dangerous."
[snip]

May be of interest to AVG 8 users...

"potentially dangerous" entries in my registry, specifically under
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatability
http://forum.grisoft.cz/freeforum/re...,backpage=,sv=

"just so you know- avg 8.0 free and pro has an incompatibility issue
with spybwareblaster and spybot search and destroy. If you see the
ie/compatablility active x registry keys, it is because these programs
use this type of scripting to stop active x in registry keys.
A lot of discussion on wilders security forums are about this and I
spoke to a representative at AVG Technologies, because i too am getting
them and i am a reseller for AVG and do not need all my clients
panicking when they see these.
The tech told me as long as they are in the "warning" tab to just ignore
them. Some have found if you remove them to the virus vault then delete
them, wierd things start happing with Windows.
Javacool who makes spywareblaster is suppose to talk to AVG Technologies
and figure this out."
http://forum.grisoft.cz/freeforum/re...,backpage=,sv=

-jen

[Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer]

On Mon, 5 May 2008, "CGB" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
>Dave and Gaz, I think I agree with you both.
>I ran a full scan with AVG version 8 after already having negative scans
>from Spybot, Adaware, A-squared, and using Spyware Blaster. CCleaner had
>shown no registry issues (I know it's not an antispyware thing but just
>threw this info in fwiw.) AVG version 8 found "no infections" and "no
>spyware," but it gave 214 warnings!!! I'm pretty sure my machine is clean
>and I opted to not let it clean out the warnings, all of which would have
>required it to edit the registry!
>Interesting. I don't know what to make of the "warnings" which say all
>those things are "potentially dangerous."
>Carl

See: http://free.grisoft.com/ww.faq.num-1319#faq_1319

Having upgraded to the AVG Free 8.0., I recently uninstalled SpyBot S&D,
and my computer is now running much faster than before, with no hangs.

When I ran the AVG 8.0 scan, it found about 130 warnings, which got moved
to the virus vault. Better safe than sorry. But then I read the FAQ,
and realized AVG is incompatible with SpyBot, SpywareBlaster, etc., so I
got rid of them. Now my XP2 machine has only AVG Free 8.0 and the Comodo
freeware "Firewall Pro" to protect it. So far, so good.

But until we see the first anti-malware comparison reports, we won't really
know if the AVG Free 8.0 anti-spyware component is working as advertised.
The other way would be if my Internet browser got "hijacked", but I do a
lot of web browsing, and so far everything appears to be normal, knock on
wood.

--
Ckyp

[Dave Seven]

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

> See: http://free.grisoft.com/ww.faq.num-1319#faq_1319
>
> Having upgraded to the AVG Free 8.0., I recently uninstalled SpyBot S&D,
> and my computer is now running much faster than before, with no hangs.
>
> When I ran the AVG 8.0 scan, it found about 130 warnings, which got moved
> to the virus vault. Better safe than sorry. But then I read the FAQ,
> and realized AVG is incompatible with SpyBot, SpywareBlaster, etc., so I
> got rid of them. Now my XP2 machine has only AVG Free 8.0 and the Comodo
> freeware "Firewall Pro" to protect it. So far, so good.
>
> But until we see the first anti-malware comparison reports, we won't really
> know if the AVG Free 8.0 anti-spyware component is working as advertised.
> The other way would be if my Internet browser got "hijacked", but I do a
> lot of web browsing, and so far everything appears to be normal, knock on
> wood.
>
> --
> Ckyp
>
>

Glad I stuck with 7.5 then. I did download 8.0 but never installed it. I
use Spywareblaster and Spybot so don't need the aggor of AVG giving
false warnings.

[Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer]

On Tue, 06 May 2008, Dave Seven <notfor@email.invalid> wrote:
>Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>
>> See: http://free.grisoft.com/ww.faq.num-1319#faq_1319
>>
>> Having upgraded to the AVG Free 8.0., I recently uninstalled SpyBot S&D,
>> and my computer is now running much faster than before, with no hangs.
>>
>> When I ran the AVG 8.0 scan, it found about 130 warnings, which got moved
>> to the virus vault. Better safe than sorry. But then I read the FAQ,
>> and realized AVG is incompatible with SpyBot, SpywareBlaster, etc., so I
>> got rid of them. Now my XP2 machine has only AVG Free 8.0 and the Comodo
>> freeware "Firewall Pro" to protect it. So far, so good.
>>
>> But until we see the first anti-malware comparison reports, we won't really
>> know if the AVG Free 8.0 anti-spyware component is working as advertised.
>> The other way would be if my Internet browser got "hijacked", but I do a
>> lot of web browsing, and so far everything appears to be normal, knock on
>> wood.
>>
>>
>
>Glad I stuck with 7.5 then. I did download 8.0 but never installed it. I
>use Spywareblaster and Spybot so don't need the aggor of AVG giving
>false warnings.

I guess it comes down to what the end-user considers to be more important,
anti-virus, or anti-spyware? I know they're both important, but I'm pretty
sure that anti-virus is more important. In fact I know it is. You should
read through all the improvements to AVG Free 8.0. According to the
manufacturer, it's a lot better than the old AVG Free 7.5. And my computer is
running so much faster and smoother since I uninstalled S&D and SpywareBlaster,
I can't imagine why anyone would opt out of the AVG freeware upgrade?

They say you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. lol!

--
Ckyp

[Gaz]

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

>
> I guess it comes down to what the end-user considers to be more
> important, anti-virus, or anti-spyware? I know they're both
> important, but I'm pretty sure that anti-virus is more important. In
> fact I know it is.

The average user now encounters variants of spyware probably more then
viruses....

You should read through all the improvements to
> AVG Free 8.0. According to the manufacturer, it's a lot better than
> the old AVG Free 7.5.

Well duh, the 'new' one is always better according to the manufacturer.

> And my computer is running so much faster and
> smoother since I uninstalled S&D and SpywareBlaster, I can't imagine
> why anyone would opt out of the AVG freeware upgrade?

Because, quite frankly it is awful, it is slow, it is unresponsive, it
insists on scanning on a daily basis, and takes five hours to do the scan.
While the scan engine is running it sucks 100% of resources....

> They say you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
> lol!

Try installing avg 8.0 on an older machine, you will see why. I could quite
confidently take norton 06/07/08 off a win xp machine with 256/512 mb of
memory, and replace it with avg 7.0/7.5 and see a visible and clear
improvement in speed of a system. That is no longer the case.

I will ahve to start using Avira Antivir, i am trying it out now, so far ok,
seems pretty limited though.

Gaz

[Dave Seven]

Gaz wrote:

> Try installing avg 8.0 on an older machine, you will see why. I could quite
> confidently take norton 06/07/08 off a win xp machine with 256/512 mb of
> memory, and replace it with avg 7.0/7.5 and see a visible and clear
> improvement in speed of a system. That is no longer the case.
>
> I will ahve to start using Avira Antivir, i am trying it out now, so far ok,
> seems pretty limited though.
>
> Gaz

I never run any AV software with a resident shield for this reason. If
they don't have an option to disable the resident shield I don't use it.
I would never trust any AV software to heal an infected machine either.
All they are good for is reporting if you have a virus or not. If it
reports positive then you wipe the drive and re-install the OS. Or
preferably just restore an image file using a prog like Acronis True
Image. I scan all files I download and now and again do a system scan.
Never been infected yet but that is because I know how to set up my PC
with some pre-emptive protection. I don't need a resident AV prog
slowing my web browsing down to the speed of a 486 when I pay big bucks
for a fast PC.

[Gaz]

Dave Seven wrote:
> Gaz wrote:
>
>> Try installing avg 8.0 on an older machine, you will see why. I
>> could quite confidently take norton 06/07/08 off a win xp machine
>> with 256/512 mb of memory, and replace it with avg 7.0/7.5 and see a
>> visible and clear improvement in speed of a system. That is no
>> longer the case. I will ahve to start using Avira Antivir, i am trying it
>> out now, so
>> far ok, seems pretty limited though.
>>
>> Gaz
>
> I never run any AV software with a resident shield for this reason. If
> they don't have an option to disable the resident shield I don't use
> it. I would never trust any AV software to heal an infected machine
> either. All they are good for is reporting if you have a virus or
> not. If it reports positive then you wipe the drive and re-install the OS.
> Or preferably just restore an image file using a prog like
> Acronis True Image. I scan all files I download and now and again do
> a system scan. Never been infected yet but that is because I know how
> to set up my PC with some pre-emptive protection. I don't need a
> resident AV prog slowing my web browsing down to the speed of a 486
> when I pay big bucks for a fast PC.

However, most people do need protection......

Gaz

[Dave Seven]

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

>
> I guess it comes down to what the end-user considers to be more important,
> anti-virus, or anti-spyware? I know they're both important, but I'm pretty
> sure that anti-virus is more important. In fact I know it is. You should
> read through all the improvements to AVG Free 8.0. According to the
> manufacturer, it's a lot better than the old AVG Free 7.5. And my computer is
> running so much faster and smoother since I uninstalled S&D and SpywareBlaster,
> I can't imagine why anyone would opt out of the AVG freeware upgrade?
>
> They say you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. lol!
>
> --
> Ckyp

I think you are an AVG employee using an anon remailer. The layered
approach to spyware is the best approach so trusting just AVG for
spyware scans and dumping Spybot and Spywareblaster (two progs I have
been using for years now and trust) is just dumb. I would upgrade to
ver. 8.0 but not if it causes issues for those two other anti-spyware
progs. They should fix the issue and then I will start using it.

[Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer]

On Wed, 07 May 2008, Dave Seven <notfor@email.invalid> wrote:
>Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>
>>
>> I guess it comes down to what the end-user considers to be more important,
>> anti-virus, or anti-spyware? I know they're both important, but I'm pretty
>> sure that anti-virus is more important. In fact I know it is. You should
>> read through all the improvements to AVG Free 8.0. According to the
>> manufacturer, it's a lot better than the old AVG Free 7.5. And my computer
>> is
>> running so much faster and smoother since I uninstalled S&D and
>> SpywareBlaster,
>> I can't imagine why anyone would opt out of the AVG freeware upgrade?
>>
>> They say you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. lol!
>
>I think you are an AVG employee using an anon remailer. The layered
>approach to spyware is the best approach so trusting just AVG for
>spyware scans and dumping Spybot and Spywareblaster (two progs I have
>been using for years now and trust) is just dumb. I would upgrade to
>ver. 8.0 but not if it causes issues for those two other anti-spyware
>progs. They should fix the issue and then I will start using it.

Believe what you want. Everybody knows that a good freeware anti-virus
program is definitely more important than a good freeware anti-spyware program.
The new AVG Free 8.0 contains both. Logic dictates that the anti-virus program
must take precedent over the incompatible S&D and SpywareBlaster, and the fact
that AVG Free 8.0 now includes their anti-spyware component settles the
argument, at least for me it does. And besides, my computer is running much
faster and smoother than it did with S&D, "tea timer" and all that bogging it
down. I'll never go back to it.

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Ckyp