well I guess al this was for nothing, tried to remove Norton and now the computer is really jacked up can't access anything. I get an error message that says proccess stopped due to restrictions on the computer. I have have one program I can open and that is Xoftspy. I can't even read a text file, but the good news is taskmgr is back..... But that is the only systems function I can get to work, I think it might be time to just start over, I hate to do it because the guide you guys have posted worked. Unless you have a sugestion to get Xp working again