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  1. #11
    comajorr Guest

    Re: Strange Trojan Incident

    use_a_hammer@yahoo.com wrote:
    > On Feb 25, 11:30 pm, comajorr <comaj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> use_a_ham...@yahoo.com wrote:
    >>> On Feb 24, 2:08 am, comajorr <comaj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>>> use_a_ham...@yahoo.com wrote:
    >>>>> On Feb 22, 3:59 pm, "Bob" <rob...@grande.net> wrote:
    >>>>>> My wife was searching for a particular subject in her browser, and clicked
    >>>>>> on the one she wanted (medical web site).
    >>>>>> A large screen flashed up indicating she had just received a virus, which
    >>>>>> was a Trojan, and must buy this particular program to uninstall it from her
    >>>>>> computer.
    >>>>>> I checked, and the AVG virus protection caught it. Sure enough, it was
    >>>>>> listed as a Trojan. I put it in the virus vault and deleted it.
    >>>>>> My question..........after just installing Spybot Search & Destroy, and
    >>>>>> Spyware Blaster, how did this get through both programs? I thought it must
    >>>>>> be a sales gimmick, but wouldn't it have to be a Trojan for AVG to catch it?
    >>>>>> I know nothing about these programs, how they work, nor virus's. All
    >>>>>> software was up to date. Sorry, I failed to get a description of it.
    >>>>> I would recommend installing McAfee Site Advisor to help keep you away
    >>>>> from bad sites.
    >>>>> http://www.siteadvisor.com/
    >>>> Go to Google Pack and download and run the free version of "spyware
    >>>> doctor". I'd say it's the best program I've run to catch and clean
    >>>> trojans [and other assorted malware].
    >>> The biggest memory hog on earth! And this is coming from someone that
    >>> has 2GB's of memory.
    >>> And it only works with XP and Vista.
    >>> IMO, the "best" payware anti-spyware program is Spy Sweeper. It also
    >>> uses a lot of memory, but NOTHING like SWD.
    >>> IMO, Spyware Terminator is still the best free program out there.

    >> I have to disagree...I have a paid version of Spysweeper on my system
    >> right now and it doesn't catch and clean what spyware doctor does. I
    >> only activate spyware doctor for the intelliscan once a day then I click
    >> it off so it isn't memory resident. The intelliscan feature is quick and
    >> thorough...it also scans alternate data streams.

    >
    > The only thing that SWD is "catching and cleaning" is browser cookies.
    > Something that SS doesn't (nor do I) consider adware or spyware. Free
    > programs like AVG, SWT, AdAware, Spybot, etc, will "catch and clean"
    > those if they bother you, or you can simply clear your cookies on
    > occasion. If there is REAL spyware/adware on your computer SS and SWD
    > will find and delete it. Some of the free programs seem to have a
    > problem deleting REAL spy/adware. Try deleting the cookies on all of
    > your browsers before your next intelliscan and see what SWD finds.
    > Odds are, nothing.
    >
    >> Also the F-secure free online scanner is excellent and pc tools threat
    >> fire is worth a look. I don't agree with you about spyware terminator it
    >> didn't seem to find much on scans but it did make you give permissions
    >> for many processes to run which was a pain. I'll give it another try to
    >> see if it's improved.

    >
    > Well, if there's nothing to find, that's a good thing. And far as I
    > know SWT is the only free program that has active shielding. And if
    > you don't run the "HIPS" feature then you don't have to give
    > permission for programs to run. (at least that's my recollection)
    >
    >> Also only working with XP and Vista? They are the operating systems with
    >> the most security problems right now.

    >
    > Maybe I wasn't clear above. "Google Pack" which includes a free
    > "version" of SWD can only be downloaded if you are using XP or Vista.

    What OS's are you running? If you are running some flavor of Linux or
    mac OS you don't really need security software...but the virus writers
    are starting to hit on OS X.

    I use CCleaner to delete cookies daily.

    I am inviting the readers of this newsgroup to use what is working for
    me and it's all free. I'm not writing this to confront anyone's beliefs
    in what works or doesn't. I've used SWT and I think Spyware Doctor is
    definetly better. Also the complementing Threat fire is an extra layer
    of defense. F-Secure's free online scan is great and if you don't have
    much time do a quick "nanoscan" at the "nanoscan.dot.com" website. I do
    go many places on the net and download files and do seem to pick up
    malware once in a while. Luckily my system has never been hosed.

    I believe in multiple layers of effective protection.

    If you only check your email and only go to a few reputable sites and
    practice safe computing practices you don't really need an anti-malware
    program...but it you want to go anywhere and everywhere on the net
    anyone is free to try what I am doing...or not.

    Adios!

  2. #12
    use_a_hammer@yahoo.com Guest

    Re: Strange Trojan Incident

    On Feb 26, 10:49 pm, comajorr <comaj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > use_a_ham...@yahoo.com wrote:
    > > On Feb 25, 11:30 pm, comajorr <comaj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >> use_a_ham...@yahoo.com wrote:
    > >>> On Feb 24, 2:08 am, comajorr <comaj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >>>> use_a_ham...@yahoo.com wrote:
    > >>>>> On Feb 22, 3:59 pm, "Bob" <rob...@grande.net> wrote:
    > >>>>>> My wife was searching for a particular subject in her browser, and clicked
    > >>>>>> on the one she wanted (medical web site).
    > >>>>>> A large screen flashed up indicating she had just received a virus, which
    > >>>>>> was a Trojan, and must buy this particular program to uninstall it from her
    > >>>>>> computer.
    > >>>>>> I checked, and the AVG virus protection caught it. Sure enough, it was
    > >>>>>> listed as a Trojan. I put it in the virus vault and deleted it.
    > >>>>>> My question..........after just installing Spybot Search & Destroy, and
    > >>>>>> Spyware Blaster, how did this get through both programs? I thought it must
    > >>>>>> be a sales gimmick, but wouldn't it have to be a Trojan for AVG to catch it?
    > >>>>>> I know nothing about these programs, how they work, nor virus's. All
    > >>>>>> software was up to date. Sorry, I failed to get a description of it.
    > >>>>> I would recommend installing McAfee Site Advisor to help keep you away
    > >>>>> from bad sites.
    > >>>>>http://www.siteadvisor.com/
    > >>>> Go to Google Pack and download and run the free version of "spyware
    > >>>> doctor". I'd say it's the best program I've run to catch and clean
    > >>>> trojans [and other assorted malware].
    > >>> The biggest memory hog on earth! And this is coming from someone that
    > >>> has 2GB's of memory.
    > >>> And it only works with XP and Vista.
    > >>> IMO, the "best" payware anti-spyware program is Spy Sweeper. It also
    > >>> uses a lot of memory, but NOTHING like SWD.
    > >>> IMO, Spyware Terminator is still the best free program out there.
    > >> I have to disagree...I have a paid version of Spysweeper on my system
    > >> right now and it doesn't catch and clean what spyware doctor does. I
    > >> only activate spyware doctor for the intelliscan once a day then I click
    > >> it off so it isn't memory resident. The intelliscan feature is quick and
    > >> thorough...it also scans alternate data streams.

    >
    > > The only thing that SWD is "catching and cleaning" is browser cookies.
    > > Something that SS doesn't (nor do I) consider adware or spyware. Free
    > > programs like AVG, SWT, AdAware, Spybot, etc, will "catch and clean"
    > > those if they bother you, or you can simply clear your cookies on
    > > occasion. If there is REAL spyware/adware on your computer SS and SWD
    > > will find and delete it. Some of the free programs seem to have a
    > > problem deleting REAL spy/adware. Try deleting the cookies on all of
    > > your browsers before your next intelliscan and see what SWD finds.
    > > Odds are, nothing.

    >
    > >> Also the F-secure free online scanner is excellent and pc tools threat
    > >> fire is worth a look. I don't agree with you about spyware terminator it
    > >> didn't seem to find much on scans but it did make you give permissions
    > >> for many processes to run which was a pain. I'll give it another try to
    > >> see if it's improved.

    >
    > > Well, if there's nothing to find, that's a good thing. And far as I
    > > know SWT is the only free program that has active shielding. And if
    > > you don't run the "HIPS" feature then you don't have to give
    > > permission for programs to run. (at least that's my recollection)

    >
    > >> Also only working with XP and Vista? They are the operating systems with
    > >> the most security problems right now.

    >
    > > Maybe I wasn't clear above. "Google Pack" which includes a free
    > > "version" of SWD can only be downloaded if you are using XP or Vista.

    >
    > What OS's are you running? If you are running some flavor of Linux or
    > mac OS you don't really need security software...but the virus writers
    > are starting to hit on OS X.
    >
    > I use CCleaner to delete cookies daily.
    >
    > I am inviting the readers of this newsgroup to use what is working for
    > me and it's all free. I'm not writing this to confront anyone's beliefs
    > in what works or doesn't. I've used SWT and I think Spyware Doctor is
    > definetly better. Also the complementing Threat fire is an extra layer
    > of defense. F-Secure's free online scan is great and if you don't have
    > much time do a quick "nanoscan" at the "nanoscan.dot.com" website. I do
    > go many places on the net and download files and do seem to pick up
    > malware once in a while. Luckily my system has never been hosed.
    >
    > I believe in multiple layers of effective protection.
    >
    > If you only check your email and only go to a few reputable sites and
    > practice safe computing practices you don't really need an anti-malware
    > program...but it you want to go anywhere and everywhere on the net
    > anyone is free to try what I am doing...or not.
    >
    > Adios!


    You seriously need to reread what was written by BOTH of us because
    you are clearly confused.

  3. #13
    comajorr Guest

    Re: Strange Trojan Incident

    use_a_hammer@yahoo.com wrote:
    > On Feb 26, 10:49 pm, comajorr <comaj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> use_a_ham...@yahoo.com wrote:
    >>> On Feb 25, 11:30 pm, comajorr <comaj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>>> use_a_ham...@yahoo.com wrote:
    >>>>> On Feb 24, 2:08 am, comajorr <comaj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>>>>> use_a_ham...@yahoo.com wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Feb 22, 3:59 pm, "Bob" <rob...@grande.net> wrote:
    >>>>>>>> My wife was searching for a particular subject in her browser, and clicked
    >>>>>>>> on the one she wanted (medical web site).
    >>>>>>>> A large screen flashed up indicating she had just received a virus, which
    >>>>>>>> was a Trojan, and must buy this particular program to uninstall it from her
    >>>>>>>> computer.
    >>>>>>>> I checked, and the AVG virus protection caught it. Sure enough, it was
    >>>>>>>> listed as a Trojan. I put it in the virus vault and deleted it.
    >>>>>>>> My question..........after just installing Spybot Search & Destroy, and
    >>>>>>>> Spyware Blaster, how did this get through both programs? I thought it must
    >>>>>>>> be a sales gimmick, but wouldn't it have to be a Trojan for AVG to catch it?
    >>>>>>>> I know nothing about these programs, how they work, nor virus's. All
    >>>>>>>> software was up to date. Sorry, I failed to get a description of it.
    >>>>>>> I would recommend installing McAfee Site Advisor to help keep you away
    >>>>>>> from bad sites.
    >>>>>>> http://www.siteadvisor.com/
    >>>>>> Go to Google Pack and download and run the free version of "spyware
    >>>>>> doctor". I'd say it's the best program I've run to catch and clean
    >>>>>> trojans [and other assorted malware].
    >>>>> The biggest memory hog on earth! And this is coming from someone that
    >>>>> has 2GB's of memory.
    >>>>> And it only works with XP and Vista.
    >>>>> IMO, the "best" payware anti-spyware program is Spy Sweeper. It also
    >>>>> uses a lot of memory, but NOTHING like SWD.
    >>>>> IMO, Spyware Terminator is still the best free program out there.
    >>>> I have to disagree...I have a paid version of Spysweeper on my system
    >>>> right now and it doesn't catch and clean what spyware doctor does. I
    >>>> only activate spyware doctor for the intelliscan once a day then I click
    >>>> it off so it isn't memory resident. The intelliscan feature is quick and
    >>>> thorough...it also scans alternate data streams.
    >>> The only thing that SWD is "catching and cleaning" is browser cookies.
    >>> Something that SS doesn't (nor do I) consider adware or spyware. Free
    >>> programs like AVG, SWT, AdAware, Spybot, etc, will "catch and clean"
    >>> those if they bother you, or you can simply clear your cookies on
    >>> occasion. If there is REAL spyware/adware on your computer SS and SWD
    >>> will find and delete it. Some of the free programs seem to have a
    >>> problem deleting REAL spy/adware. Try deleting the cookies on all of
    >>> your browsers before your next intelliscan and see what SWD finds.
    >>> Odds are, nothing.
    >>>> Also the F-secure free online scanner is excellent and pc tools threat
    >>>> fire is worth a look. I don't agree with you about spyware terminator it
    >>>> didn't seem to find much on scans but it did make you give permissions
    >>>> for many processes to run which was a pain. I'll give it another try to
    >>>> see if it's improved.
    >>> Well, if there's nothing to find, that's a good thing. And far as I
    >>> know SWT is the only free program that has active shielding. And if
    >>> you don't run the "HIPS" feature then you don't have to give
    >>> permission for programs to run. (at least that's my recollection)
    >>>> Also only working with XP and Vista? They are the operating systems with
    >>>> the most security problems right now.
    >>> Maybe I wasn't clear above. "Google Pack" which includes a free
    >>> "version" of SWD can only be downloaded if you are using XP or Vista.

    >> What OS's are you running? If you are running some flavor of Linux or
    >> mac OS you don't really need security software...but the virus writers
    >> are starting to hit on OS X.
    >>
    >> I use CCleaner to delete cookies daily.
    >>
    >> I am inviting the readers of this newsgroup to use what is working for
    >> me and it's all free. I'm not writing this to confront anyone's beliefs
    >> in what works or doesn't. I've used SWT and I think Spyware Doctor is
    >> definetly better. Also the complementing Threat fire is an extra layer
    >> of defense. F-Secure's free online scan is great and if you don't have
    >> much time do a quick "nanoscan" at the "nanoscan.dot.com" website. I do
    >> go many places on the net and download files and do seem to pick up
    >> malware once in a while. Luckily my system has never been hosed.
    >>
    >> I believe in multiple layers of effective protection.
    >>
    >> If you only check your email and only go to a few reputable sites and
    >> practice safe computing practices you don't really need an anti-malware
    >> program...but it you want to go anywhere and everywhere on the net
    >> anyone is free to try what I am doing...or not.
    >>
    >> Adios!

    >
    > You seriously need to reread what was written by BOTH of us because
    > you are clearly confused.

    This is what I was replying to from the orginal post:

    "My question..........after just installing Spybot Search & Destroy, and
    Spyware Blaster, how did this get through both programs?"

    spyware blaster is OK and was just updated to 4.0 but I think spyware
    doctor and threat fire are an excellent alternative and I believe
    better. (and also free)

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