Have Both SuperAnt.... Ad-Aware

[Bob]

Is it necessary to run both programs? Super.... never seems to find
anything (which is good), and Ad-Aware mostly finds only the Malware that
says is no problem. I also have the Free AVG virus program which does catch
Trojans occasionally, vaults them for deletion. Am I running too much, not
enough, or drop one of the first two mentioned?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Bob wrote:

SuperAnt? Got a link to that one?

> Is it necessary to run both programs? Super.... never seems to find
> anything (which is good), and Ad-Aware mostly finds only the Malware that
> says is no problem.

All malware is a problem. What kind of 'malware' does this program say
is 'not' a problem?

> I also have the Free AVG virus program which does catch Trojans
> occasionally, vaults them for deletion.

The question here is *why* and *how* these Trojans are getting on your
computer in the first place. Please explain where you/it found them.

> Am I running too much, not enough, or drop one of the first two
> mentioned?

I'd be willing to hazard a guess you are not practicing "Safe Hex" in
the first place. You probably use Internet Explorer.
http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html

--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Vista

[len gardener]

g'day bob,

i run the same programs i have read on many posts that it is best to
have a couple malware programs and having a virus program is par for
the course.

my ad-aware always find about 3 tracking malwares which i have it
remove, it has a number of what it calls low risk malware objects
which i ahve never done anything with, will watch with interest what
the other poster says. maybe we should be removing them??

but then super-anti doesn't find them? it always finds and removes a
few items, i run mine often through the week well each time there is
an update.

my avg anti-virus runs daily gets an update about every second day.

i'd be concerened about what you may be downloading and from what
sites if you sort of get regular trojans detected, i use firefox for
browsing and use agent to read mails and usenet posts found in the
past that m$ programs seemed to leave you vulnerable.

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:18:48 -0600, "Bob" <roburt@grande.net> wrote:
snipped
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len & bev

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

[Bob]

B. Shagnasty......................
1. SuperAnt is SUPERAntiSpyware, I just didn't want to spell it all out.

2. Ad-Aware is the one that finds the Malware........and says it's nothing
to be concerned about (to that effect). It's a Tracking Malware, and I
always delete them. They are the same ones, and just show up every once and
awhile.
The Trojans only show up occasionally, I have no idea where there picked up,
unless through email. I don't go to off color web sites.

3. Practicing "Safe Hex"? Sorry to disappoint you on your guess, but I do
practice to the best of my ability.


"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:WGpmj.490936$kj1.446545@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Bob wrote:
>
> SuperAnt? Got a link to that one?
>
>> Is it necessary to run both programs? Super.... never seems to find
>> anything (which is good), and Ad-Aware mostly finds only the Malware that
>> says is no problem. >
> All malware is a problem. What kind of 'malware' does this program say
> is 'not' a problem?
>
>> I also have the Free AVG virus program which does catch Trojans
>> occasionally, vaults them for deletion.
>
> The question here is *why* and *how* these Trojans are getting on your
> computer in the first place. Please explain where you/it found them.
>
>> Am I running too much, not enough, or drop one of the first two
>> mentioned?
>
> I'd be willing to hazard a guess you are not practicing "Safe Hex" in
> the first place. You probably use Internet Explorer.
> http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html
>
> --
> -bts
> -Friends don't let friends drive Vista

[Bob]

Thanks for the post len.
I replied to Beauregard in the above post. You can read my answers there.
When I spoke of the Trojans, there not regular, so I think I may pick them
up through the email. They delete easily with no problem. I have friends
that like to send me these "cute" email attachments, so I think that's where
they derive from. I have started deleting most all of them recently, and no
trojans have shown up.
you all (as we say in Texas) have a g'day also.
Bob

"len gardener" <gardenlen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:28bkp39pdttds1uup2gqknf4hrirmj17vq@4ax.com...
> g'day bob,
>
> i run the same programs i have read on many posts that it is best to
> have a couple malware programs and having a virus program is par for
> the course.
>
> my ad-aware always find about 3 tracking malwares which i have it
> remove, it has a number of what it calls low risk malware objects
> which i ahve never done anything with, will watch with interest what
> the other poster says. maybe we should be removing them??
>
> but then super-anti doesn't find them? it always finds and removes a
> few items, i run mine often through the week well each time there is
> an update.
>
> my avg anti-virus runs daily gets an update about every second day.
>
> i'd be concerened about what you may be downloading and from what
> sites if you sort of get regular trojans detected, i use firefox for
> browsing and use agent to read mails and usenet posts found in the
> past that m$ programs seemed to leave you vulnerable.
>
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:18:48 -0600, "Bob" <roburt@grande.net> wrote:
> snipped
> With peace and brightest of blessings,
>
> len & bev
>
> --
> "Be Content With What You Have And
> May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
> A World That You May Not Understand."
>
> http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Bob wrote:

> B. Shagnasty......................
> 1. SuperAnt is SUPERAntiSpyware, I just didn't want to spell it all
> out.

Ah. Googling for "SuperAnt":
Results 1 - 10 of about 90,800 for superant. (0.20 seconds)

> 2. Ad-Aware is the one that finds the Malware........and says it's
> nothing to be concerned about (to that effect). It's a Tracking
> Malware, and I always delete them. They are the same ones, and just
> show up every once and awhile.

Tracking cookies. Cookies are not malware, just annoying. They cannot
harm your computer, only track your usage of certain web sites.

> The Trojans only show up occasionally, I have no idea where there
> picked up, unless through email. I don't go to off color web sites.

Sometimes via email. Sometimes via non-off color hacked web sites, and
most especially if you are using Internet Explorer with ActiveX enabled.
More malware is spread via ActiveX than you can imagine.

> 3. Practicing "Safe Hex"? Sorry to disappoint you on your guess,
> but I do practice to the best of my ability.

What browser do you use?

Please don't top-post. Thanks for your consideration.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty replied to hisself:
> Bob wrote:
>> The Trojans only show up occasionally, I have no idea where there
>> picked up, unless through email. I don't go to off color web sites.
>
> Sometimes via email. Sometimes via non-off color hacked web sites,
> and most especially if you are using Internet Explorer with ActiveX
> enabled. More malware is spread via ActiveX than you can imagine.

...and in fact, I just found this reference about hacked web sites in
another group. Simple injected JavaScript and using an inferior browser.

<http://groups.google.com/group/stopbadware/browse_thread/thread/5d4187b832224f51>

--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Vista

[Bob]

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:UJrmj.491556$kj1.482061@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Bob wrote:
>
>> B. Shagnasty......................
>> 1. SuperAnt is SUPERAntiSpyware, I just didn't want to spell it all
>> out.
>
> Ah. Googling for "SuperAnt":
> Results 1 - 10 of about 90,800 for superant. (0.20 seconds)
>
>> 2. Ad-Aware is the one that finds the Malware........and says it's
>> nothing to be concerned about (to that effect). It's a Tracking
>> Malware, and I always delete them. They are the same ones, and just
>> show up every once and awhile.
>
> Tracking cookies. Cookies are not malware, just annoying. They cannot
> harm your computer, only track your usage of certain web sites.
>
>> The Trojans only show up occasionally, I have no idea where there
>> picked up, unless through email. I don't go to off color web sites.
>
> Sometimes via email. Sometimes via non-off color hacked web sites, and
> most especially if you are using Internet Explorer with ActiveX enabled.
> More malware is spread via ActiveX than you can imagine.

I can assure you it's not from any hacked web sites.

>
>> 3. Practicing "Safe Hex"? Sorry to disappoint you on your guess,
>> but I do practice to the best of my ability.
>


> What browser do you use?

I only use Firefox, and always update to the latest version.


>
> Please don't top-post. Thanks for your consideration.
>
> --
> -bts
> -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Bob wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> Bob wrote:
>>> The Trojans only show up occasionally, I have no idea where there
>>> picked up, unless through email. I don't go to off color web sites.
>>
>> Sometimes via email. Sometimes via non-off color hacked web sites, and
>> most especially if you are using Internet Explorer with ActiveX enabled.
>> More malware is spread via ActiveX than you can imagine.
>
> I can assure you it's not from any hacked web sites.

You can't know that for sure... Web sites (yes, even good ones) get
hacked, and they do not have flashing banners that say "I'm hacked!"

>> What browser do you use?
>
> I only use Firefox, and always update to the latest version.

But you use Outlook Express, which uses IE as it's HTML rendering
engine. Try using a modern, secure email client (Firefox companion
Thunderbird is quite good) and see if these Trojans you get stop showing
up.

--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Vista

[Charani]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:15:07 -0600, Bob wrote:

> I can assure you it's not from any hacked web sites.

I wouldn't have expected a fairly obscure specialist genealogical site
to get hacked but recently one such was found. The owner of the site
was contacted, cleaned up the site and took the matter up in very
strong terms with the people who host his site to find out how and why
it happened since he wasn't aware there was a problem until he was
told.

You won't know either until it's too late.

You might find these articles interesting reading:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7193993.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7183008.stm