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[Sugien]

"TheApostle" <likes-to-****@mailme.org> wrote in message
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> This post, 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com>
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> 439f2c55cbcf@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>>
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> |
> |4Q wrote:
> |> TheApostle wrote:
> |> > This post, Sugien <paulbryantsr@gmail.com>
> |> > Message-ID:<<4793d7b1$0$4954$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>>
> |> > may be monitored for quality assurance:
> |> > |
> |> > |
> |> > |"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in message
> |> > |news:5vh439F1ldcomU1@mid.individual.net...
> |> > |> TheApostle wrote:
> |> > |>> This post, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com>
> |> > |>> Message-ID:<<5vfrkmF1mba5cU3@mid.individual.net>>
> |> > |>> may be monitored for quality assurance:
> |> > |>>>
> |> > |>>>> Here he is again manipulating Rhonda. ****, Les leave the poor
> girl
> |> > |>>>> alone.
> |> > |>>>
> |> > |>>> I'm doin' okay here, 4Q, and I continue to call you a friend.
> |> > |>>>
> |> > |>>> I'm not very happy about being used this way, i.e., as a tool to
> chip
> |> > |>>> away at a friend,
> |> > |>>
> |> > |>> I'm sorry you feel that you are being used that way.
> |> > |>>
> |> > |>> I've never implied that should should be used, nor have I done
> |> > |>> anything which would imply that I am using you for such a tool.
> I'm
> |> > |>> simply shining a light on, Paul and his mental defects. If
> anything
> |> > |>> it is Paul who is using _you_ to achieve his goals and false
> |> > |>> victories.
> |> > |>
> |> > |> He has *never* used me in that way. I consider him a friend and
> ally, and
> |> > |> he has certainly been both to me.
> |> > |>
> |> > |>> Sometimes the truth is a hard thing to swallow 'cause
> |> > |>> the people we call "friends" are the persons involved.
> |> > |>>
> |> > |>> I'm sure as a reasonable person you would question why anyone
> would
> |> > |>> be any kind of friend with, say Dustin, considering the antics
> you've
> |> > |>> stated that he has disaplyed, right?
> |> > |>
> |> > |> For many years, Dustin took sadistic pleasure in hurting people.
> |> > |>
> |> > |> 4Q can point you to posts wherein Dustin brags of doing harm, as
> well as
> |> > |> voices his hate for humanity, generally. I would do it, but it's
> too much
> |> > |> work right now.
> |> > |>
> |> > |> Dustin claims to have reformed, but he continues to do harmful
> things--a
> |> > |> good example is the post he made to alt.sex about me.
> |> > |>
> |> > |> 4Q trolls. And people bite, even knowing he's trolling. It may not
> be
> |> > |> sweetness and light, but he's not doing anyone any real life harm
> the way
> |> > |> Dustin has done/continues to do.
> |> > |>
> |> > |
> |> > |hmmm, although 4Q apologized, I would think his verbal attacks
> against my
> |> > |wife and children would be considered mental harm.
> |> >
> |> > I've noticed that Paul likes to attack the families of his targets.
> |> >
> |> > |Sometime in the future one our grandchildren may come across his
> verbal
> |> > |attacks in Usenet archives and it may also cause our grandchildren
> mental
> |> > |anguish.
> |> >
> |> > It does go past more than that. His attacks, admittedly, are to
> |> > achieve a number one status on Google. Such attacks which he
> prominately
> |> > displays on his webpage can be considered threatening or abusive;
> obscene;
> |> > indecent; and defamatory. More so, any unknowing person, would
> question
> |> > the validity of such a page - thereby causing definate real life harm
> to
> |> > you, or anyone else he libels.
> |> >
> |>
> |> *haha* I pick my targets very carefully.
> |>
> |> Ping --> Soooge. Hey mhate you've read
> |> the stuff about Les "TheApostle" Paulin
> |> and his paedophile tendacies? What with
> |> you being a guy known for pedo hunting
> |> don't you think people will start to
> |> ask questions about your credibility
> |> when you are buddying up so close to
> |> *wait how was he described in the Usenet
> |> archives?* Les "TheApedophile" Paulin
> |>
> |> No smoke without fire, don't get SE'd
> |> by his sig, Sooooge
> |> (consider it a bit of friendly nod -
> |> you own me one, mkay)
> |>
> |>
> |> ;]]
> |
> |Ping --> Soooge again.
>
> TRAnSLATION: HELP ME PLEASE.
>
> |Stop and think for a minute why the clown is behind "SharkPost".
>
> That is incorrect, I am not behind Sharkpost.
>
> I am only the author of the website, braindead moron.
>
> |A tool for uploading masses of files *alarm bells* to alt.binary.pictures
>
> Uploading binaries of pictures raises alarm bells?
>
> |Surely your pedophile hunter friends must have done some research
> |on ways the pedos operate.
>
> Clearly you're advising everyone that your fav group "alt.binary.pictures"
> is your pedo hang out of choice, Pedo Paul!! Bravo..
>
> |Maybe you should get a few buddies to take a look, ey?
>
> TRANSLATION: Can someone please help me out of this mess????
>
> |Meanwhile I'll do some info grepping and see I can get you (and AHM)
> |some pointers.
>
> TRANSLATION: I'll sit back and wait until you've cleaned up my mess.
>
> |Yeah I bought Johnny Longs book after one of the AHM regs gave me
> |some info hacking pointers.
> |
> |
> |;]]
>
> Since Paul '4Q' Zest is unable to fight his own battles, I
> have graciously made notification to "spooge" as he clearly
> is ignoring your desperate pleas for help, Paul.
>
> /me waves to Meat Plow, and BuZZard!
I do not reply to his post any longer, he even asked me to send him *my*
copy of his hit page against me, lol that takes the cake. I do have a
zipped archive of his pages that I made along with the zipped archive he had
posted for download; but I surely am not going to send it to him. I had
considered it; because then I could once again send friends and family to
the fan pages he created in my honor and chuckle with them about how one
maneuver another person to the point that they try and lash out with what
they think is hurtful spiteful stuff. I truly believe that is why he
started attacking my wife (my wife doesn't use the internet and doesn't
even like computers) and family ; because he saw that his attempts of
ticking me off by creating pages about me wasn't working and in fact he even
admitted in one post that because of my not having the response that he
wanted and thought I would that , that was why he started attacking them.
All the attacks on my wife and family are watter under the bridge however
because he did apologize and I accepted it, so unless someone brings the
subject back up I will *not* mention it again on any posts to Usenet. In
any event thanks for the show; because I am enjoying sitting back and
watching him on the receiving end.


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[Sugien]

"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> 4Q wrote:
>> Sugien wrote:
>>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5vh439F1ldcomU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> TheApostle wrote:
>>>>> This post, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com>
>>>>> Message-ID:<<5vfrkmF1mba5cU3@mid.individual.net>>
>>>>> may be monitored for quality assurance:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here he is again manipulating Rhonda. ****, Les leave the poor
>>>>>>> girl alone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm doin' okay here, 4Q, and I continue to call you a friend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not very happy about being used this way, i.e., as a tool to
>>>>>> chip away at a friend,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry you feel that you are being used that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never implied that should should be used, nor have I done
>>>>> anything which would imply that I am using you for such a tool.
>>>>> I'm simply shining a light on, Paul and his mental defects. If
>>>>> anything it is Paul who is using _you_ to achieve his goals and
>>>>> false victories.
>>>>
>>>> He has *never* used me in that way. I consider him a friend and
>>>> ally, and he has certainly been both to me.
>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes the truth is a hard thing to swallow 'cause
>>>>> the people we call "friends" are the persons involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure as a reasonable person you would question why anyone would
>>>>> be any kind of friend with, say Dustin, considering the antics
>>>>> you've stated that he has disaplyed, right?
>>>>
>>>> For many years, Dustin took sadistic pleasure in hurting people.
>>>>
>>>> 4Q can point you to posts wherein Dustin brags of doing harm, as
>>>> well as voices his hate for humanity, generally. I would do it, but
>>>> it's too much work right now.
>>>>
>>>> Dustin claims to have reformed, but he continues to do harmful
>>>> things--a good example is the post he made to alt.sex about me.
>>>>
>>>> 4Q trolls. And people bite, even knowing he's trolling. It may not
>>>> be sweetness and light, but he's not doing anyone any real life
>>>> harm the way Dustin has done/continues to do.
>>>>
>>> hmmm, although 4Q apologized, I would think his verbal attacks
>>> against my wife and children would be considered mental harm.
>>> Sometime in the future one our grandchildren may come across his
>>> verbal attacks in Usenet archives and it may also cause our
>>> grandchildren mental anguish. Likewise although my real name and
>>> address was posted on the internet not long after the internet first
>>> started (I used it in my sig line; because I was naive) it was
>>> fairly well hidden by years of no one seeing it. 4Q however took it
>>> upon himself to re-post it along with my telephone number. Your
>>> friend Paul gets his kicks by attacking others. Maybe it is just
>>> me; but I would say that *anyone* that gets their jollies by
>>> *trying* to put others down, has a mental problem, or they think so
>>> little of their self that they have to try and make others seem
>>> lower then they are to make himself look better.
>>>
>>
>> Stop crying you idiot. You made a
>> complete twat of yourself. You lied,
>> you cheated and you got kicked in the
>> ass every step of the way. Tell Les
>> why I decided to do the Google grepping
>> in the first place... *cuts to the chase*
>>
>> BECAUSE you are a worm wriggling ****er
>> and you need nailing down, so people can
>> see all your tricks.
>>
>> http://fourq.host.sk/img/sooogeworm.jpg
>>
>>
>> ;]]
>
> I find it interesting that he is criticising you for reposting information
> he himself posted but he had nothing to say about Dustin posting
> information that was given to him privately with the expectation that it
> would remain private--information that had never been posted to usenet and
> was not available on the internet at all.
>
> Interesting.
>
Well for one thing Dustin maintains that he did not post it and I have at
this time no reason to doubt him. As for Q posting my info, it was the
intent that I object to and not to the information its self. He posted it
with the express intent of trying to cause me and my *family* some sort of
problem; by more or less in effect trying to get someone with a screw loose
to use my info and try and come around here. I think however that because
of other postings that everyone knows that I have security cameras and live
on a dead end street so there is NO chance of any type of drive by and run,
and everyone knows I am armed to the teeth and that everyone in my home
(except for the very little children) are trained not only in firearm
safety; but also in marksmanship. Most everyone in my home can plink a
poker chip from at least 25 yards with a hand gun. When the smallest grand
kids get old enough to where they have the strength to be able to pull a
trigger they will be taught gun safety. My neighbors like the sign in my
yard which is sort of like one of those brinks signs saying that the house
is protected; but mine says "This property protected by an armed paranoid
Vietnam Vet" 4Q, tries to live his life online by attacking others, and
uses his so called "******* Prolapsed *mispelled because well figure it
out*" page to try and degrade or humiliate others. It is like I told him a
while back and I though he had taken to heart; because he agreed in a Usenet
post. I told him and still maintain that some day he may just pick on the
wrong person and that person might just be deranged or one straws weight
from flipping out and he may just pick on that person and WHAM!. Here is a
poem I wrote that sort of puts it into perspective:


PRIMED
Caught up in the murk and mire, of feelings held within
It's easy to forget ones' self, and to others just pretend
It doesn't really hurt at all, those spiteful words you spewed
Stabbing like cold hard steel, with words you ran me through
When every thing is aid and done, And I just walk away
I save these feelings in my soul, for use another day
Pain is loaded in the breach, cocked N' primed and ready
Lord help the one who happens by, my aim is none to steady
Any one who comes my way, and smiles or says hello
With defusing smile and quick response, on them I could unload
Lashing out inflicting pain, feeling then remorse
For causing pain in others, when my angers' run its course

By Sugien


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[TheApostle]

This post, Sugien <paulbryantsr@gmail.com>
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|
|"TheApostle" <likes-to-****@mailme.org> wrote in message
|news:MPG.21fdf53186d6e87b989777@news.sharkpost.or g...
|> This post, 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com>
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|> 439f2c55cbcf@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>>
|> may be monitored for quality assurance:
|> |
|> |4Q wrote:
|> |> TheApostle wrote:
|> |> > This post, Sugien <paulbryantsr@gmail.com>
|> |> > Message-ID:<<4793d7b1$0$4954$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>>
|> |> > may be monitored for quality assurance:
|> |> > |
|> |> > |
|> |> > |"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in message
|> |> > |news:5vh439F1ldcomU1@mid.individual.net...
|> |> > |> TheApostle wrote:
|> |> > |>> This post, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com>
|> |> > |>> Message-ID:<<5vfrkmF1mba5cU3@mid.individual.net>>
|> |> > |>> may be monitored for quality assurance:
|> |> > |>>>
|> |> > |>>>> Here he is again manipulating Rhonda. ****, Les leave the poor
|> girl
|> |> > |>>>> alone.
|> |> > |>>>
|> |> > |>>> I'm doin' okay here, 4Q, and I continue to call you a friend.
|> |> > |>>>
|> |> > |>>> I'm not very happy about being used this way, i.e., as a tool to
|> chip
|> |> > |>>> away at a friend,
|> |> > |>>
|> |> > |>> I'm sorry you feel that you are being used that way.
|> |> > |>>
|> |> > |>> I've never implied that should should be used, nor have I done
|> |> > |>> anything which would imply that I am using you for such a tool.
|> I'm
|> |> > |>> simply shining a light on, Paul and his mental defects. If
|> anything
|> |> > |>> it is Paul who is using _you_ to achieve his goals and false
|> |> > |>> victories.
|> |> > |>
|> |> > |> He has *never* used me in that way. I consider him a friend and
|> ally, and
|> |> > |> he has certainly been both to me.
|> |> > |>
|> |> > |>> Sometimes the truth is a hard thing to swallow 'cause
|> |> > |>> the people we call "friends" are the persons involved.
|> |> > |>>
|> |> > |>> I'm sure as a reasonable person you would question why anyone
|> would
|> |> > |>> be any kind of friend with, say Dustin, considering the antics
|> you've
|> |> > |>> stated that he has disaplyed, right?
|> |> > |>
|> |> > |> For many years, Dustin took sadistic pleasure in hurting people.
|> |> > |>
|> |> > |> 4Q can point you to posts wherein Dustin brags of doing harm, as
|> well as
|> |> > |> voices his hate for humanity, generally. I would do it, but it's
|> too much
|> |> > |> work right now.
|> |> > |>
|> |> > |> Dustin claims to have reformed, but he continues to do harmful
|> things--a
|> |> > |> good example is the post he made to alt.sex about me.
|> |> > |>
|> |> > |> 4Q trolls. And people bite, even knowing he's trolling. It may not
|> be
|> |> > |> sweetness and light, but he's not doing anyone any real life harm
|> the way
|> |> > |> Dustin has done/continues to do.
|> |> > |>
|> |> > |
|> |> > |hmmm, although 4Q apologized, I would think his verbal attacks
|> against my
|> |> > |wife and children would be considered mental harm.
|> |> >
|> |> > I've noticed that Paul likes to attack the families of his targets.
|> |> >
|> |> > |Sometime in the future one our grandchildren may come across his
|> verbal
|> |> > |attacks in Usenet archives and it may also cause our grandchildren
|> mental
|> |> > |anguish.
|> |> >
|> |> > It does go past more than that. His attacks, admittedly, are to
|> |> > achieve a number one status on Google. Such attacks which he
|> prominately
|> |> > displays on his webpage can be considered threatening or abusive;
|> obscene;
|> |> > indecent; and defamatory. More so, any unknowing person, would
|> question
|> |> > the validity of such a page - thereby causing definate real life harm
|> to
|> |> > you, or anyone else he libels.
|> |> >
|> |>
|> |> *haha* I pick my targets very carefully.
|> |>
|> |> Ping --> Soooge. Hey mhate you've read
|> |> the stuff about Les "TheApostle" Paulin
|> |> and his paedophile tendacies? What with
|> |> you being a guy known for pedo hunting
|> |> don't you think people will start to
|> |> ask questions about your credibility
|> |> when you are buddying up so close to
|> |> *wait how was he described in the Usenet
|> |> archives?* Les "TheApedophile" Paulin
|> |>
|> |> No smoke without fire, don't get SE'd
|> |> by his sig, Sooooge
|> |> (consider it a bit of friendly nod -
|> |> you own me one, mkay)
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> ;]]
|> |
|> |Ping --> Soooge again.
|>
|> TRAnSLATION: HELP ME PLEASE.
|>
|> |Stop and think for a minute why the clown is behind "SharkPost".
|>
|> That is incorrect, I am not behind Sharkpost.
|>
|> I am only the author of the website, braindead moron.
|>
|> |A tool for uploading masses of files *alarm bells* to alt.binary.pictures
|>
|> Uploading binaries of pictures raises alarm bells?
|>
|> |Surely your pedophile hunter friends must have done some research
|> |on ways the pedos operate.
|>
|> Clearly you're advising everyone that your fav group "alt.binary.pictures"
|> is your pedo hang out of choice, Pedo Paul!! Bravo..
|>
|> |Maybe you should get a few buddies to take a look, ey?
|>
|> TRANSLATION: Can someone please help me out of this mess????
|>
|> |Meanwhile I'll do some info grepping and see I can get you (and AHM)
|> |some pointers.
|>
|> TRANSLATION: I'll sit back and wait until you've cleaned up my mess.
|>
|> |Yeah I bought Johnny Longs book after one of the AHM regs gave me
|> |some info hacking pointers.
|> |
|> |
|> |;]]
|>
|> Since Paul '4Q' Zest is unable to fight his own battles, I
|> have graciously made notification to "spooge" as he clearly
|> is ignoring your desperate pleas for help, Paul.
|>
|> /me waves to Meat Plow, and BuZZard!
|I do not reply to his post any longer, he even asked me to send him *my*
|copy of his hit page against me, lol that takes the cake. I do have a
|zipped archive of his pages that I made along with the zipped archive he had
|posted for download; but I surely am not going to send it to him. I had
|considered it; because then I could once again send friends and family to
|the fan pages he created in my honor and chuckle with them about how one
|maneuver another person to the point that they try and lash out with what
|they think is hurtful spiteful stuff. I truly believe that is why he
|started attacking my wife (my wife doesn't use the internet and doesn't
|even like computers) and family ; because he saw that his attempts of
|ticking me off by creating pages about me wasn't working and in fact he even
|admitted in one post that because of my not having the response that he
|wanted and thought I would that , that was why he started attacking them.
|All the attacks on my wife and family are watter under the bridge however
|because he did apologize and I accepted it, so unless someone brings the
|subject back up I will *not* mention it again on any posts to Usenet. In
|any event thanks for the show; because I am enjoying sitting back and
|watching him on the receiving end.

I'm enjoying him crying desperately for help to anyone he can. Even
his latest attempt to get others to fight his battles (with with the
statement of that person "owing" him one have fallen on deaf ears....

He really isn't capable of defending himself - and thus he need to use
other people like Rhonda, Laura, Spooge (who he refers to as sooge)...

I can only wonder what poor Paul will do for an encore. (BSEG)
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Pedophile-Supporter Jack 'GitRDunn' Cohen uses the First
Amendment Rights argument to protect the rights of kiddie
porn posters and pedophiles to post what they "likes".

From: Jack 'GitRDunn' Cohen <Git@RDunn.hk>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.d
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:28:49 EST
Message-ID: <5RThj.26$6F6.8@trndny09>

I hate pedos and pervs as much as anyone else but I
don't have the right to stop them from their first
amendment rights to post what "they" like.



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[TheApostle]

This post, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com>
Message-ID:<<5vjhgnF1n2b6iU1@mid.individual.net>>
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|
|>
|> Stop crying you idiot. You made a
|> complete twat of yourself. You lied,
|> you cheated and you got kicked in the
|> ass every step of the way. Tell Les
|> why I decided to do the Google grepping
|> in the first place... *cuts to the chase*
|>
|> BECAUSE you are a worm wriggling ****er
|> and you need nailing down, so people can
|> see all your tricks.
|>
|> http://fourq.host.sk/img/sooogeworm.jpg
|>
|>
|> ;]]
|
|I find it interesting that he is criticising you for reposting
|information he himself posted but he had nothing to say about Dustin
|posting information that was given to him privately with the expectation
|that it would remain private--information that had never been posted to
|usenet and was not available on the internet at all.
|
|Interesting.

Pardon me for interjecting at this point, Rhonda, but do you also
find it interesting that Pauls hypocrisy is only matched by his
habitual need for lying? Surely you have something to say about
him doing it.

I've already commented on Dustins posting of information and as
such I said it would be hypocritical of me to condem him. While
I don't agree with it - how it is any different then what Paul is
doing?

As everyone knows the knife cuts both ways whether they are our
friends or not. There is no excuse for any of us to be doing it
and to excuse your friend of doing and attacking another for doing
it is pure hypocrisy and a double-standards.

Surely as a reasonable person you would have to agree. You aren't
really going to show favoritism just because Paul is your friend
are you?
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Pedophile-Supporter Jack 'GitRDunn' Cohen uses the First
Amendment Rights argument to protect the rights of kiddie
porn posters and pedophiles to post what they "likes".

From: Jack 'GitRDunn' Cohen <Git@RDunn.hk>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.d
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:28:49 EST
Message-ID: <5RThj.26$6F6.8@trndny09>

I hate pedos and pervs as much as anyone else but I
don't have the right to stop them from their first
amendment rights to post what "they" like.



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[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Sugien wrote:
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5vjhgnF1n2b6iU1@mid.individual.net...
>> 4Q wrote:
>>> Sugien wrote:
>>>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5vh439F1ldcomU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> TheApostle wrote:
>>>>>> This post, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Message-ID:<<5vfrkmF1mba5cU3@mid.individual.net>>
>>>>>> may be monitored for quality assurance:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here he is again manipulating Rhonda. ****, Les leave the poor
>>>>>>>> girl alone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm doin' okay here, 4Q, and I continue to call you a friend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not very happy about being used this way, i.e., as a tool to
>>>>>>> chip away at a friend,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry you feel that you are being used that way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never implied that should should be used, nor have I done
>>>>>> anything which would imply that I am using you for such a tool.
>>>>>> I'm simply shining a light on, Paul and his mental defects. If
>>>>>> anything it is Paul who is using _you_ to achieve his goals and
>>>>>> false victories.
>>>>>
>>>>> He has *never* used me in that way. I consider him a friend and
>>>>> ally, and he has certainly been both to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes the truth is a hard thing to swallow 'cause
>>>>>> the people we call "friends" are the persons involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure as a reasonable person you would question why anyone
>>>>>> would be any kind of friend with, say Dustin, considering the
>>>>>> antics you've stated that he has disaplyed, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> For many years, Dustin took sadistic pleasure in hurting people.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4Q can point you to posts wherein Dustin brags of doing harm, as
>>>>> well as voices his hate for humanity, generally. I would do it,
>>>>> but it's too much work right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dustin claims to have reformed, but he continues to do harmful
>>>>> things--a good example is the post he made to alt.sex about me.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4Q trolls. And people bite, even knowing he's trolling. It may not
>>>>> be sweetness and light, but he's not doing anyone any real life
>>>>> harm the way Dustin has done/continues to do.
>>>>>
>>>> hmmm, although 4Q apologized, I would think his verbal attacks
>>>> against my wife and children would be considered mental harm.
>>>> Sometime in the future one our grandchildren may come across his
>>>> verbal attacks in Usenet archives and it may also cause our
>>>> grandchildren mental anguish. Likewise although my real name and
>>>> address was posted on the internet not long after the internet
>>>> first started (I used it in my sig line; because I was naive) it
>>>> was fairly well hidden by years of no one seeing it. 4Q however
>>>> took it upon himself to re-post it along with my telephone number.
>>>> Your friend Paul gets his kicks by attacking others. Maybe it is
>>>> just me; but I would say that *anyone* that gets their jollies by
>>>> *trying* to put others down, has a mental problem, or they think so
>>>> little of their self that they have to try and make others seem
>>>> lower then they are to make himself look better.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Stop crying you idiot. You made a
>>> complete twat of yourself. You lied,
>>> you cheated and you got kicked in the
>>> ass every step of the way. Tell Les
>>> why I decided to do the Google grepping
>>> in the first place... *cuts to the chase*
>>>
>>> BECAUSE you are a worm wriggling ****er
>>> and you need nailing down, so people can
>>> see all your tricks.
>>>
>>> http://fourq.host.sk/img/sooogeworm.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> ;]]
>>
>> I find it interesting that he is criticising you for reposting
>> information he himself posted but he had nothing to say about Dustin
>> posting information that was given to him privately with the
>> expectation that it would remain private--information that had never
>> been posted to usenet and was not available on the internet at all.
>>
>> Interesting.
>>
> Well for one thing Dustin maintains that he did not post it and I
> have at this time no reason to doubt him.

How convenient.

I'd like to hear how you rationalize the alt.sex post he denies making.

After all, it was my real address and cell phone number, and it came
from his IP address.

> As for Q posting my info,
> it was the intent that I object to and not to the information its
> self. He posted it with the express intent of trying to cause me and
> my *family* some sort of problem; by more or less in effect trying to
> get someone with a screw loose to use my info and try and come around
> here. I think however that because of other postings that everyone
> knows that I have security cameras and live on a dead end street so
> there is NO chance of any type of drive by and run, and everyone
> knows I am armed to the teeth and that everyone in my home (except
> for the very little children) are trained not only in firearm safety;
> but also in marksmanship. Most everyone in my home can plink a poker
> chip from at least 25 yards with a hand gun. When the smallest grand
> kids get old enough to where they have the strength to be able to
> pull a trigger they will be taught gun safety. My neighbors like the
> sign in my yard which is sort of like one of those brinks signs
> saying that the house is protected; but mine says "This property
> protected by an armed paranoid Vietnam Vet" 4Q, tries to live his
> life online by attacking others, and uses his so called "*******
> Prolapsed *mispelled because well figure it out*" page to try and
> degrade or humiliate others. It is like I told him a while back and
> I though he had taken to heart; because he agreed in a Usenet post. I
> told him and still maintain that some day he may just pick on the
> wrong person and that person might just be deranged or one straws
> weight from flipping out and he may just pick on that person and
> WHAM!. Here is a poem I wrote that sort of puts it into perspective:
>
>
> PRIMED
> Caught up in the murk and mire, of feelings held within
> It's easy to forget ones' self, and to others just pretend
> It doesn't really hurt at all, those spiteful words you spewed
> Stabbing like cold hard steel, with words you ran me through
> When every thing is aid and done, And I just walk away
> I save these feelings in my soul, for use another day
> Pain is loaded in the breach, cocked N' primed and ready
> Lord help the one who happens by, my aim is none to steady
> Any one who comes my way, and smiles or says hello
> With defusing smile and quick response, on them I could unload
> Lashing out inflicting pain, feeling then remorse
> For causing pain in others, when my angers' run its course
>
> By Sugien

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Miller's Law: In order to understand what another
person is saying, you must assume that it is true
and try to imagine what it could be true of.

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

TheApostle wrote:
> This post, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com>
> Message-ID:<<5vjhgnF1n2b6iU1@mid.individual.net>>
> may be monitored for quality assurance:
>>
>>>
>>> Stop crying you idiot. You made a
>>> complete twat of yourself. You lied,
>>> you cheated and you got kicked in the
>>> ass every step of the way. Tell Les
>>> why I decided to do the Google grepping
>>> in the first place... *cuts to the chase*
>>>
>>> BECAUSE you are a worm wriggling ****er
>>> and you need nailing down, so people can
>>> see all your tricks.
>>>
>>> http://fourq.host.sk/img/sooogeworm.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> ;]]
>>
>> I find it interesting that he is criticising you for reposting
>> information he himself posted but he had nothing to say about Dustin
>> posting information that was given to him privately with the
>> expectation that it would remain private--information that had never
>> been posted to usenet and was not available on the internet at all.
>>
>> Interesting.
>
> Pardon me for interjecting at this point, Rhonda, but do you also
> find it interesting that Pauls hypocrisy is only matched by his
> habitual need for lying? Surely you have something to say about
> him doing it.
>
> I've already commented on Dustins posting of information and as
> such I said it would be hypocritical of me to condem him. While
> I don't agree with it - how it is any different then what Paul is
> doing?
>
> As everyone knows the knife cuts both ways whether they are our
> friends or not. There is no excuse for any of us to be doing it
> and to excuse your friend of doing and attacking another for doing
> it is pure hypocrisy and a double-standards.
>
> Surely as a reasonable person you would have to agree. You aren't
> really going to show favoritism just because Paul is your friend
> are you?

What's the difference between reposting information that Sugien himself
posted about himself and posting information that was divulged to Dustin
in email but not publicly available anywhere else?

None? Is that the case you're trying to make?

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Miller's Law: In order to understand what another
person is saying, you must assume that it is true
and try to imagine what it could be true of.

[4Q]

TheApostle wrote:
> This post, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com>
> Message-ID:<<5vjhgnF1n2b6iU1@mid.individual.net>>
> may be monitored for quality assurance:
> |
> |>
> |> Stop crying you idiot. You made a
> |> complete twat of yourself. You lied,
> |> you cheated and you got kicked in the
> |> ass every step of the way. Tell Les
> |> why I decided to do the Google grepping
> |> in the first place... *cuts to the chase*
> |>
> |> BECAUSE you are a worm wriggling ****er
> |> and you need nailing down, so people can
> |> see all your tricks.
> |>
> |> http://fourq.host.sk/img/sooogeworm.jpg
> |>
> |>
> |> ;]]
> |
> |I find it interesting that he is criticising you for reposting
> |information he himself posted but he had nothing to say about Dustin
> |posting information that was given to him privately with the expectation
> |that it would remain private--information that had never been posted to
> |usenet and was not available on the internet at all.
> |
> |Interesting.
>
> Pardon me for interjecting at this point, Rhonda, but do you also
> find it interesting that Pauls hypocrisy is only matched by his
> habitual need for lying? Surely you have something to say about
> him doing it.
>
> I've already commented on Dustins posting of information and as
> such I said it would be hypocritical of me to condem him. While
> I don't agree with it - how it is any different then what Paul is
> doing?
>
> As everyone knows the knife cuts both ways whether they are our
> friends or not. There is no excuse for any of us to be doing it
> and to excuse your friend of doing and attacking another for doing
> it is pure hypocrisy and a double-standards.
>
> Surely as a reasonable person you would have to agree. You aren't
> really going to show favoritism just because Paul is your friend
> are you?

*hah* Leslie just can't leave it alone.

Btw Rhonda were you with Kadaitcha Man
when Dimbulb requested him to try and
hunt me down (for money) and KM
bootfux0red his arse?

Poor old Dimbulb published is own
address and phone number in his lame
resume, and Google archived it. The
funny part was he published the code
for Melissa virus and the anti-virus
community decided to teach him a lesson
called him up on his publically
available number and told him the FBI
were on there way around.


4Q

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

TheApostle wrote:
> This post, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com>
> Message-ID:<<5vkfg6F1n23ikU1@mid.individual.net>>
> may be monitored for quality assurance:
>>
>> TheApostle wrote:
>>> This post, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com>
>>> Message-ID:<<5vjhgnF1n2b6iU1@mid.individual.net>>
>>> may be monitored for quality assurance:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stop crying you idiot. You made a
>>>>> complete twat of yourself. You lied,
>>>>> you cheated and you got kicked in the
>>>>> ass every step of the way. Tell Les
>>>>> why I decided to do the Google grepping
>>>>> in the first place... *cuts to the chase*
>>>>>
>>>>> BECAUSE you are a worm wriggling ****er
>>>>> and you need nailing down, so people can
>>>>> see all your tricks.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://fourq.host.sk/img/sooogeworm.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ;]]
>>>>
>>>> I find it interesting that he is criticising you for reposting
>>>> information he himself posted but he had nothing to say about
>>>> Dustin posting information that was given to him privately with the
>>>> expectation that it would remain private--information that had
>>>> never been posted to usenet and was not available on the internet
>>>> at all.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>> Pardon me for interjecting at this point, Rhonda, but do you also
>>> find it interesting that Pauls hypocrisy is only matched by his
>>> habitual need for lying? Surely you have something to say about
>>> him doing it.
>>>
>>> I've already commented on Dustins posting of information and as
>>> such I said it would be hypocritical of me to condem him. While
>>> I don't agree with it - how it is any different then what Paul is
>>> doing?
>>>
>>> As everyone knows the knife cuts both ways whether they are our
>>> friends or not. There is no excuse for any of us to be doing it
>>> and to excuse your friend of doing and attacking another for doing
>>> it is pure hypocrisy and a double-standards.
>>>
>>> Surely as a reasonable person you would have to agree. You aren't
>>> really going to show favoritism just because Paul is your friend
>>> are you?
>>
>> What's the difference between reposting information that Sugien
>> himself posted about himself and posting information that was
>> divulged to Dustin in email but not publicly available anywhere else?
>
> Availibility makes no difference.

We disagree.

Apparently 4Q reposted some of Sugien's own posts which are archived in
Google.

>> None? Is that the case you're trying to make?
>
> No.

You said that "availability makes no difference," so you're
contradicting yourself when you say no.

I don't care. I think that posting real life information is ****ful, and
I don't think there's any excuse for it. I just think it's weird that
everyone wants to come down hard on 4Q for reposting Sugien's own posts
of his address, but no one wants to take Dustin to task for posting my
information to alt.sex (with a clear invitation to the world to stop by
for sex).

To Sugien, I would say this: you have the ability to nuke your own posts
in Google. Perhaps you should avail yourself of the opportunity.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Miller's Law: In order to understand what another
person is saying, you must assume that it is true
and try to imagine what it could be true of.

[4Q]

8<

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

TheApostle wrote:
> This post, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com>
> Message-ID:<<5vkfg8F1n23ikU3@mid.individual.net>>
> may be monitored for quality assurance:
>>
>>> Well for one thing Dustin maintains that he did not post it and I
>>> have at this time no reason to doubt him.
>>
>> How convenient.
>>
>> I'd like to hear how you rationalize the alt.sex post he denies
>> making.
>
> I don't approve any _anyone_ making such a post.
>
>> After all, it was my real address and cell phone number, and it came
>> from his IP address.
>
> IP addresses can be forged in headers, Rhonda. The UFF are famous for
> this.

rofl!

Only one other usenet person had the information, and he was in Texas
with me at the time.

> Question(s),
> - How long ago did this happen?

A year ago September.

> - Can this dead-horse be beat any more?

This is usenet. That's what we do here. You know that.

> Seriously - there has to be a point in your life when you get past
> this point and move on. I'm not doing this to be hurtful but one can
> only wonder how long you're going to drag this out.

How long did you say your "battle" with the UFF has been going on?

<shakes head> I'm always boggled by those who would apply rules to
others that they utterly refuse to recognize as applicable to
themselves.

The answer is that as long as Dustin tries to pretend to be someone he
is not, I will be serve as an object lesson to those who might believe
him. Not with any regularlity, mind you, but merely as the mood strikes
me.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Miller's Law: In order to understand what another
person is saying, you must assume that it is true
and try to imagine what it could be true of.