help needed??? mozilla thunderbird set up???

[len garden]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:17:49 GMT, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote:

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>I'm still waiting for him to answer that he has in fact blackholed the
>"catch-all" address in the mail settings at his host's control panel.
>That should cure his problem.

i am not using thunderbird as my mail reader, when i installed it i
thought it was a blocker program i didn't understand it was another
mail reader program, i read all my mail using forte agent, now that it
might be time to change programs is another question?

With peace and brightest of blessings,

len & bev

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

[len garden]

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>According to this it "might" do what he wants...
>
>http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-antispam.htm

i don't use outlook express either, the above link again mentions
mailwasher! which other have said can have a nasty sting in the tail??
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len & bev

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

use_a_hammer@yahoo.com wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> use_a_ham...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> len garden wrote:
>>>> so is there a spam filtering program that can do the same?
>>
>> I'm still waiting for him to answer that he has in fact blackholed
>> the "catch-all" address in the mail settings at his host's control
>> panel. That should cure his problem.
>
> I've never had a spam problem so I don't know exactly how it works. I
> just knew there were some free spam blocker/remover products there.

[MailWasher] Yep, it catches spam, to a degree.

> According to this it "might" do what he wants...
>
> http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-antispam.htm

Remember that len said his ISP did a good job of catching spam. I feel
confident that the spam coming from his web site email address can be
blackholed, and solve his problem.

But I guess he left on a holiday.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

len garden wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>>I'm still waiting for him to answer that he has in fact blackholed the
>>"catch-all" address in the mail settings at his host's control panel.
>>That should cure his problem.
>
> i am not using thunderbird as my mail reader, when i installed it i
> thought it was a blocker program i didn't understand it was another
> mail reader program, i read all my mail using forte agent, now that it
> might be time to change programs is another question?

This isn't a question of a better spam-trapper on your computer.

len, you said in your original post in this thread, "what i want to do
is use it to cut the spam mail i get through my web host, not my isp who
already blocks spam."

You have to capture the spam AT YOUR WEB HOST! (sorry for shouting)

You have to log in to your web site's control panel (possibly "cPanel")
and disable the CATCH-ALL setting. When enabled, all mail sent to your
domain name will come to you, even though you may only use
"len@example.com" (I don't know what you use, so I substituted
"example.com")

Spammers routinely blast their crap to:
webmaster@example.com
sales@example.com
info@example.com
slgielsghelwlalf@example.com
george@example.com
and so on, and you get it all.

You will get it all if you don't ::blackhole:: the catch-all. If you
don't know how to manage your web site host's control panel, write a
support ticket at the host's main or support pages and ask them how to
do it.

If you publish your email address on your pages, the spammer's
harvesters will also find it and send you spam. Google for "email
obfuscation".

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

FredW wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote :
>
>> Doesn't MailWasher only work with OE?
>
> No, it does not.
> MailWasher is a kind of preprocessor of mail. I used it with Mozilla
> Thunderbird, without any problem.

Yes, I know what it is, but thought it only integrated with OE. Thanks.

>> MailWasher has that nasty "bouncer" that people go crazy with,
>> sending bounce messages to the other spam victims whose addresses
>> were forged in the FROM field. That is *truly* nasty.
>
> You can choose to use the "bounce" option or not.
> I switched "bounce" off because of the effects you mentioned.

Problem is, n00bs find the feature and their eyes light up.

"Whoohoo!! I can bounce this email back to the spammer!!!1!! He'll take
me off his list!"

Same thing applies to Challenge/Response systems.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

[len garden]

g'day Beauregard,

so in short you are saying i will need to pay their exhorbitant fee to
have spam blocked?

as far as i can ascertain there is nowhere on the web hosts site even
after login where i can change anything?

my domain e/mail addy is not featured on my web page, i generally only
use the addy when i am doing geneology research and it is most likely
from those forums where all the spam mail is generating i would think?

some of the jargon used goes over my head, but i try to understand
what you are saying, i have just had a look at the host site after
login and i can't see anywhere that i can go and do as you suggest i
should?

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:45:14 GMT, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
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With peace and brightest of blessings,

len & bev

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

len garden wrote:

> g'day Beauregard,

G'day.

> so in short you are saying i will need to pay their exhorbitant fee to
> have spam blocked?

I never said such a thing. Fee? No, it is just a setting in your web
host's control panel.

> as far as i can ascertain there is nowhere on the web hosts site even
> after login where i can change anything?

I had already asked: what control software is used by your web host? Is
it cPanel?

> my domain e/mail addy is not featured on my web page, i generally
> only use the addy when i am doing geneology research and it is most
> likely from those forums where all the spam mail is generating i
> would think?

I found your web site. You have an email address posted there.

gardenlen2 @ bigpond.com

Is this the address receiving spam?

Or something else. You now need to post the address, so we know (more
closely) exactly what the problem is.


> some of the jargon used goes over my head, but i try to understand
> what you are saying, i have just had a look at the host site after
> login and i can't see anywhere that i can go and do as you suggest i
> should?

What is the "title" or "logo" on this page where you log in to the web
host? Better yet, what is the URL?

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

[Heather]

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:w6Y7j.248548$kj1.208668@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> len garden wrote:
>
>> my domain e/mail addy is not featured on my web page, i generally
>> only use the addy when i am doing geneology research and it is most
>> likely from those forums where all the spam mail is generating i
>> would think?

Hi Shaggy......

Being a genealogist of long standing, I now see where Len is most likely
getting his spam from. He probably is on some of the genie news groups,
but there are hundreds of Rootsweb Lists and Forums for genealogy and
they make no effort to hide their subscriber's addresses.

I ran a List for another outfit (British Genealogy) and no spammer could
get at the addresses. Rootsweb, however, is a whole other story. I
won't post how easy it is, but Len should be using a throw-away address
for anything connected with the above.

Cheers......Heather (and a Merry Christmas to you and yours)

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Heather wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> len garden wrote:
>>> my domain e/mail addy is not featured on my web page, i generally
>>> only use the addy when i am doing geneology research and it is most
>>> likely from those forums where all the spam mail is generating i
>>> would think?
>
> Hi Shaggy......
>
> Being a genealogist of long standing, I now see where Len is most
> likely getting his spam from. He probably is on some of the genie
> news groups, but there are hundreds of Rootsweb Lists and Forums for
> genealogy and they make no effort to hide their subscriber's
> addresses.

Ah. Well, trying to get information from len reminds me of an old
saying about "hen's teeth." He kept mentioning his web host, so one
could only assume it had something to do with .. um .. his web host.

> I ran a List for another outfit (British Genealogy) and no spammer
> could get at the addresses. Rootsweb, however, is a whole other
> story. I won't post how easy it is, but Len should be using a
> throw-away address for anything connected with the above.

Len also has a Guestbook on his web site. My opinion of them is that
they are a spammer's best friend, where they can harvest all those
hundreds of email addresses posted by the unsuspecting newbie.

> Cheers......Heather (and a Merry Christmas to you and yours)

And to you and yours as well. For Christmas this year, I'm getting a new
house!

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

[Heather]

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in message
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> Heather wrote:
>> Hi Shaggy......
>>
>
> Ah. Well, trying to get information from len reminds me of an old
> saying about "hen's teeth." He kept mentioning his web host, so one
> could only assume it had something to do with .. um .. his web host.

Yes, the word "frustration" came to mind. You two lost me a few posts
back, lol.
>
>> I ran a List for another outfit (British Genealogy) and no spammer
>> could get at the addresses. Rootsweb, however, is a whole other
>> story. I won't post how easy it is, but Len should be using a
>> throw-away address for anything connected with the above.
>
> Len also has a Guestbook on his web site. My opinion of them is that
> they are a spammer's best friend, where they can harvest all those
> hundreds of email addresses posted by the unsuspecting newbie.

How true. I thought of doing up a webpage, but the free ones seem to
have disappeared.....as in my ISP offered a free one a couple of years
back. But I am busy with yet another new "passion" this past year. I
am designing (and selling) jewellery.....or 'jewelry' as you Merkins
spell it. Having a good time with it.
>
>> Cheers......Heather (and a Merry Christmas to you and yours)
>
> And to you and yours as well. For Christmas this year, I'm getting a
> new house!

Well that sure knocks the **** out of anything I get for
Xmas.......grin. I assume you are buying in the same area. Or are we
old enough to hit a retirement home......bwa ha ha. (that was a royal
WE).

Goodonya.....prices I should imagine are pretty low what with all that
subprime mortgage crapola you have down there. Up here prices are high
and my house has more than doubled in price. I would hazard a guess (ex
real estate agent here) that it has gone up $100,000 in 3 years. Sure
blows me away!!

Saw in the paper today that a condo apt. in Toronto is going for about
$200,000. Mind you, that condo is about 500 sq. feet. ACK!!

Cheers....Heather
>
> --
> -bts
> -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck