US Teen (Author of Bug****) Arrested as 'Spybot Mastermind'

[Dustin Cook]

"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rqa88F13khtkU1
@mid.individual.net:

> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rnk3nF151e5nU1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> BoaterDave wrote:
>>>> "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
>>>> figure out that every computer on this lan looks like the same
>>>> machine as
>>>> far as the internet is concerned."
>>>>
>>>> Hey! Am I on your LAN too, Dustin?
>>>
>>> At the rate Dustin is going, the entire usenet community is on his
>>> LAN.
>>>
>>
>> I'm responding to this purely for the amusement value, my own that is.
>
> You're responding to this because you're obsessed.

I'm responding for my own entertainment, as I said.
I wouldn't call me obsessed, you've made far more posts lately than I have,
and usually they are about me.

>> I have 4 computers where I reside, every single one of them as far as
>> the internet is concerned is one computer. Outside my lan, the
>> internet doesn't know (or care) which computer is doing what. The
>> router handles everything.
>
> Which has nothing to do with anything.

Yes actually, it has alot to do with it. Your claiming that I specifically
made the post in alt.sex; I've maintained from the beginning that I did not
do so. I did provide the required information for the post to be made, but
I didn't actually make the post. A small difference to you I suppose, but
an important one to me.

>> So when I say another user on my LAN made the post Rhonda is whining
>> about, it's true. And it will come from the same IP as this machine's
>> post.
>
> You're responsible for the post.

I'm responsible to an extint, yes.

> It was information only you had, it was information that was posted
> using one of your accounts, using your IP address and your signature
> "typo," i.e., the incorrect form for "you're."

As I said previously, unless I was the only one who recieved emails from
you with your personal information as a signature, I'm not the only one who
had the information. I'm just the only one to leak it publically.

> You continue to deflect from this by trying to give meaning to the idea
> that someone else hit the send key. It doesn't matter who hit the send
> key.

Not to you it doesn't, obviously. To me, it does.

>> Now, the amusing part, atleast one of you (rhonda) can't grasp such a
>> simple concept...all 4 computers here (3 intel, one amd pos) appear
>> to be one computer as far as the internet is concerned, and they are
>> all using the same IP on the WAN side.
>
> See above, dumbass.

No, stupid, you see above. You originally claimed that I had made the post,
when in fact I hadn't. Since you obviously cannot dispute the LAN argument,
your changing tactics ever so slightly.

> Dustin, the issue is not so much that you posted my address and phone
> number to alt. sex, but that you continue to commit immature and

Obviously Rhonda it is, it's your whole obsession with me. You bring it up
almost every single time you post to me, or about me.

> outright unethical acts. Not only that, you seem to believe that you can
> be a self-appointed arbiter of what is right and wrong (e.g., your
> attack on Laura, with respect to something that had nothing to do with
> you, all in the name of personal gain), while going along and doing
> things that are flat out against the law.

I'm not an arbiter of anything Rhonda. Laura was doing something that
wasn't kosher with me and I called her on it, simple as that. Laura made
some claims that she would remove pictures if asked to do so, I brought
that issue specifically up after sugien initiated contact with me.

As far as unethical acts are concerned, That's primarily a different
viewpoint you and I have with regard to copyright laws; and it's a mute
point. I can find just as many people who agree with me as you can who
don't. It's a red herring. Your just going to have to find something better
to call me immature for doing. Copying music and movies just isn't going to
do. Most of the population now engages in such activities, hun.

> It doesn't wash. You're full of ****, and you have a lot of catching up
> to do before your mental age (teenage, that is) balances with your
> physical age.

I'm not full of **** anymore so than you know wtf your talking about when
it concerns computers, message headers or LANS. Your incurably stupid
Rhonda, I no longer have any doubt in my mind about it.

I do not do anything to hurt anyone (copyright viewpoints aside). I develop
an antimalware tool, and that's all. If that's unethical or the work of a
teenagers mind to you, I can live with it.

--
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Email.: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com
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[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rqa88F13khtkU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:5rnk3nF151e5nU1 @mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> BoaterDave wrote:
>>>>> "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
>>>>> figure out that every computer on this lan looks like the same
>>>>> machine as
>>>>> far as the internet is concerned."
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey! Am I on your LAN too, Dustin?
>>>>
>>>> At the rate Dustin is going, the entire usenet community is on his
>>>> LAN.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm responding to this purely for the amusement value, my own that
>>> is.
>>
>> You're responding to this because you're obsessed.
>
> I'm responding for my own entertainment, as I said.

Right.

> I wouldn't call me obsessed, you've made far more posts lately than I
> have, and usually they are about me.

Really?

Are you also one of those ****heads who goes through the express line
with a full cart because he apparently can neither read nor count?

>>> I have 4 computers where I reside, every single one of them as far
>>> as the internet is concerned is one computer. Outside my lan, the
>>> internet doesn't know (or care) which computer is doing what. The
>>> router handles everything.
>>
>> Which has nothing to do with anything.
>
> Yes actually, it has alot to do with it. Your claiming that I
> specifically made the post in alt.sex; I've maintained from the
> beginning that I did not do so. I did provide the required
> information for the post to be made, but I didn't actually make the
> post. A small difference to you I suppose, but an important one to
> me.

Dustin, the mechanism by which the post arrived at every server that
carries alt.sex is irrelevant. No matter how it got there, you are
responsible for it.

You had the information, it came from your account and from your IP
address. We have all seen you blame your friends and even your own
mother for posts you do not wish to own.

It's laughable.

>>> So when I say another user on my LAN made the post Rhonda is whining
>>> about, it's true. And it will come from the same IP as this
>>> machine's post.
>>
>> You're responsible for the post.
>
> I'm responsible to an extint, yes.

Totally responsible.

>> It was information only you had, it was information that was posted
>> using one of your accounts, using your IP address and your signature
>> "typo," i.e., the incorrect form for "you're."
>
> As I said previously, unless I was the only one who recieved emails
> from you with your personal information as a signature, I'm not the
> only one who had the information. I'm just the only one to leak it
> publically.

I'm glad you've finally admitted to it.

>> You continue to deflect from this by trying to give meaning to the
>> idea that someone else hit the send key. It doesn't matter who hit
>> the send key.
>
> Not to you it doesn't, obviously. To me, it does.

<shakes head>

>>> Now, the amusing part, atleast one of you (rhonda) can't grasp such
>>> a simple concept...all 4 computers here (3 intel, one amd pos)
>>> appear to be one computer as far as the internet is concerned, and
>>> they are all using the same IP on the WAN side.
>>
>> See above, dumbass.
>
> No, stupid, you see above. You originally claimed that I had made the
> post, when in fact I hadn't. Since you obviously cannot dispute the
> LAN argument, your changing tactics ever so slightly.

My tactics have never changed. And I still believe you made the post.

The point is that whether or not you made the post, you are responsible
for the post either way.

>> Dustin, the issue is not so much that you posted my address and phone
>> number to alt. sex, but that you continue to commit immature and
>
> Obviously Rhonda it is, it's your whole obsession with me. You bring
> it up almost every single time you post to me, or about me.

What I'm bringing up is an illustration of your character--or rather,
the lack thereof.

Your attack on Laura is another.

There's one set of rules, Dustin, and you don't get to lambaste someone
else for not following rules you yourself don't follow. I realize you
don't get that, which is common in Borderline Personalities, but it's
still true.

>> outright unethical acts. Not only that, you seem to believe that you
>> can be a self-appointed arbiter of what is right and wrong (e.g.,
>> your attack on Laura, with respect to something that had nothing to
>> do with you, all in the name of personal gain), while going along
>> and doing things that are flat out against the law.
>
> I'm not an arbiter of anything Rhonda. Laura was doing something that
> wasn't kosher with me and I called her on it, simple as that. Laura
> made some claims that she would remove pictures if asked to do so, I
> brought that issue specifically up after sugien initiated contact
> with me.

You were sucking up to Sugien as a means to secure a place for yourself
in ahm. I also saw you sucking up to Hatter, as well as one or two
others. I find your behavior hilarious, except when you start attacking
others for things you yourself do.

> As far as unethical acts are concerned, That's primarily a different
> viewpoint you and I have with regard to copyright laws; and it's a
> mute point.

Then why did you attack Laura on the basis of violating Sugien's
copyright?

> I can find just as many people who agree with me as you
> can who don't. It's a red herring. Your just going to have to find
> something better to call me immature for doing. Copying music and
> movies just isn't going to do. Most of the population now engages in
> such activities, hun.

Most of the population speeds, and when it gets caught, it gets a
ticket.

Just because a lot of people (not "most," btw, as to your example) do
something doesn't make it okay.

>> It doesn't wash. You're full of ****, and you have a lot of catching
>> up to do before your mental age (teenage, that is) balances with your
>> physical age.
>
> I'm not full of **** anymore so than you know wtf your talking about
> when it concerns computers, message headers or LANS. Your incurably
> stupid Rhonda, I no longer have any doubt in my mind about it.

Your list of wrong ideas is so long at this point, it matters not,
Dustin.

> I do not do anything to hurt anyone (copyright viewpoints aside). I
> develop an antimalware tool, and that's all. If that's unethical or
> the work of a teenagers mind to you, I can live with it.

Good. Then stopy replying.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle