US Teen (Author of Bug****) Arrested as 'Spybot Mastermind'

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>> that can't code in Assembly)
>
> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years developing
> a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be operational for
> scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware removal tool that
> currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers,
> etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool certainly proves I do
> know assembler.
>
> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate

You don't understand it's not a debate.

It's comedy. And you're the brunt of the joke. If you were adult, you'd
take it with good humor. Unfortunately, there's all too much truth in
what is written about you, so you go off like a confused and angry teen.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle

[4Q]

Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> Dustin Cook wrote:
> > 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
> > 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
> >
> >
> >> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
> >> (described as a lamer tool for people
> >> that can't code in Assembly)
> >
> > As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
> > concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
> > for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
> > 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
> > assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years developing
> > a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be operational for
> > scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware removal tool that
> > currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers,
> > etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool certainly proves I do
> > know assembler.
> >
> > I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>
> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>

True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
to think of it more as a comedy baseball
bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
the head. *grin*

> It's comedy. And you're the brunt of the joke. If you were adult, you'd

Ah that's a bit cruel to the 30yr old
teeniebopper in his Harry Potter themed
wizards dungeon basement. He did
actually say (only in AHM group)
"He does have a sense of humour..."

> take it with good humor. Unfortunately, there's all too much truth in
> what is written about you, so you go off like a confused and angry teen.
>

*hehe* Did you like the bit about his
mom blaming it all his Open WiFi? That
Open WiFi of his has got a lot to
answer for...

Btw, I know this is from some time ago
but what is the story of Dustbin
offering you all his life savings
(a couple hundred dollars), so you
wouldn't go to the fed's over his
Open WiFi ALT.SEX posting?


4Q
p.s. I've been doing some Camtasia
hacking *hehehe*. Dustbin is not going
to like it! *HAHAHA*

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

4Q wrote:
> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>
>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
>>> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
>>> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
>>> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>
>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>
>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>
>
> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
> the head. *grin*

Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.

>> It's comedy. And you're the brunt of the joke. If you were adult,
>> you'd
>
> Ah that's a bit cruel to the 30yr old
> teeniebopper in his Harry Potter themed
> wizards dungeon basement. He did
> actually say (only in AHM group)
> "He does have a sense of humour..."

<snicker>

>> take it with good humor. Unfortunately, there's all too much truth in
>> what is written about you, so you go off like a confused and angry
>> teen.
>>
>
> *hehe* Did you like the bit about his
> mom blaming it all his Open WiFi? That
> Open WiFi of his has got a lot to
> answer for...

That had me howling.

> Btw, I know this is from some time ago
> but what is the story of Dustbin
> offering you all his life savings
> (a couple hundred dollars), so you
> wouldn't go to the fed's over his
> Open WiFi ALT.SEX posting?

I had to reread the emails. Made me laugh.

While I was in Texas, he sent me a really weird email containing a post
he wanted me to make on his behalf (in reply to one of mine, I think).
Either Google or his nntp server was down, and he couldn't post. I
ignored the email, so I suppose when he figured he was dead in the bozo
bin, he felt it was necessary to engage an intermediary to intercede
with me.

Anyway, his story to the intermediary was that "someone" at the LAN
party made the alt.sex post, and in accordance with the party rules,
that "someone" was fined $300 for doing so. (This totally ignores the
fact that the alleged poster was using one of Dustin's email addresses
to post information only Dustin possessed.) According to what Dustin
told the intermediary, he was willing to "send some of the fine money to
[me] if [I'd] like."

I declined the offer. I didn't want his money, and I'd already been in
contact with the FBI. What Dustin still fails to comprehend is that he
endangered both my young adult daughter and my 99-year old grandmother
when he made that post. Not only was I concerned for their safety in my
absence, I was also concerned about the precarious legal position he put
me in: If one has knowledge of a crime that may be committed and fails
to report it and the crime subsequently occurs, one can be prosecuted
right along with the perpetrator.

> 4Q
> p.s. I've been doing some Camtasia
> hacking *hehehe*. Dustbin is not going
> to like it! *HAHAHA*

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle

[Dustin Cook]

"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:

> 4Q wrote:
>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>
>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
>>>> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
>>>> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
>>>> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>
>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>
>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>
>>
>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>> the head. *grin*
>
> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.

You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase (pun!)
had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:

"For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."

I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today... Aside from going after
kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to do
with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.

For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you; and he's one
of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...

[12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
[12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
[12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
[12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
[12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
[12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
[12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n tho, I
don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
[12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
[12:06] <evul> cd's?
[12:06] <Raid> and dvds
[12:06] <evul> lol
[12:07] <evul> hell no
[12:07] <evul> you can do that
[12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
[12:07] <evul> i was into warez
[12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
[12:07] <Raid> hahah
[12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here to
attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
[12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
[12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
[12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
[12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
[12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
[12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
[12:08] <Raid> lol
[12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
[12:09] <evul> i dun know
[12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
[12:10] <evul> so you are something different
[12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
[12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
[12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
[12:17] <Raid> No.
[12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
[12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
[12:17] <evul> ahh
[12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
[12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
[12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
[12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his lameass
[12:18] <evul> one of those
[12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
[12:18] <Raid> yep
[12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
[12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
[12:19] <evul> lol
[12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
[12:19] <evul> #hhi
[12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to be
featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
[12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
[12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
[12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
[12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
[12:20] * evul misses the girl
[12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
[12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
[12:20] <evul> yeah
[12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
[12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
[12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
[12:21] <evul> got
[12:21] <evul> aye
[12:21] <evul> i bet
[12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
<evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
[12:22] <Raid> yep
[12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
[12:23] <Raid> lol
[12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
[12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
[12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
[12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
[12:24] <Raid> lol
[12:24] <evul> that's funny
[12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
[12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25] <Raid>
all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe [12:26]
<evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
[12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
[12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
[12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
[12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
[12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
[12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
[12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
[12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
[12:30] <evul> ohh
[12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
[12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman
[12:31] <evul> lol
[12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
[12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
[12:32] <evul> lol
[12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
[12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off.
[12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is
really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults on
everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping Kadaitcha.
Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
[12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
[12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
[12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name
[12:33] <Raid> lol
[12:33] <evul> no doubt about it
[12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
[12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
[12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
[12:34] <Raid> hahahahah

Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself. I have
just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*



--
Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2d
Email.: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com
Web...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
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[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:
>
>> 4Q wrote:
>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>>
>>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a
>>>>> tool for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8
>>>>> years ago 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't
>>>>> learned assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>>
>>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>>
>>>
>>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>>> the head. *grin*
>>
>> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.
>
> You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase
> (pun!) had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:
>
> "For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
> helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
> his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
> helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."
>
> I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today...

Who's he?

> Aside from going after
> kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to do
> with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.

Did I say you did, Dustin?

Your paranoia--and the scenarios you invent as a result--is absolutely
out of control.

> For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you;

I don't know evul.

But I think you should reread the post I made about what ahm did/does,
rather than paraphrasing what you think I said.

I never said that ahm helped me. Not once. What I wrote was this:

Message ID: <5q1vdjFtc92uU1@mid.individual.net>

"Do you have a ****ing clue what they do these days? I do. And I'm
grateful as hell to them for it. Some of those folks are my heros, and
they know why, because many months ago, I thanked them for it--ThePsyko,
in particular."

Do you see the word "help" up there? Do you see evul's name up there?

WTF is wrong with you?

> and he's
> one of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
> Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...

I hope you got his permission before you posted this.

> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
> what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
> [12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
> hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
> [12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
> [12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
> [12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
> [12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
> I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n
> tho, I don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
> [12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
> [12:06] <evul> cd's?
> [12:06] <Raid> and dvds
> [12:06] <evul> lol
> [12:07] <evul> hell no
> [12:07] <evul> you can do that
> [12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
> [12:07] <evul> i was into warez
> [12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
> [12:07] <Raid> hahah
> [12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here
> to attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
> [12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
> [12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
> [12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
> [12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
> [12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
> [12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
> [12:08] <Raid> lol
> [12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
> [12:09] <evul> i dun know
> [12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
> [12:10] <evul> so you are something different
> [12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
> [12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
> [12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
> [12:17] <Raid> No.
> [12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
> [12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
> [12:17] <evul> ahh
> [12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
> [12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
> [12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his lameass
> [12:18] <evul> one of those
> [12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
> [12:18] <Raid> yep
> [12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
> him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
> [12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
> [12:19] <evul> lol
> [12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
> [12:19] <evul> #hhi
> [12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
> various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to
> be featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
> [12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
> [12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
> [12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
> [12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
> [12:20] * evul misses the girl
> [12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
> [12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
> [12:20] <evul> yeah
> [12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
> [12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
> [12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
> [12:21] <evul> got
> [12:21] <evul> aye
> [12:21] <evul> i bet
> [12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
> she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
> won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
> <evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
> [12:22] <Raid> yep
> [12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
> [12:23] <Raid> lol
> [12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
> [12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
> [12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
> [12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
> [12:24] <Raid> lol
> [12:24] <evul> that's funny
> [12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
> [12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
> but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25]
> <Raid> all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe
> [12:26] <evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
> [12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
> [12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
> [12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
> [12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
> [12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
> [12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
> [12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
> [12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
> [12:30] <evul> ohh
> [12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
> [12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman

You asked if he has a picture. He did. Whether he does anymore or not, I
don't know. But he knows I'm a woman.

http://www.flickr.com/gp/8438478@N08/4S4359

> [12:31] <evul> lol
> [12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
> [12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
> [12:32] <evul> lol
> [12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
> [12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off.
> [12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is
> really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
> completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults
> on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping
> Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
> [12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
> [12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
> [12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name

No it isn't. Truly.

> [12:33] <Raid> lol
> [12:33] <evul> no doubt about it

That's just nonsense. He's not Don Clark. He's not aboriginal. He's not
gay.

But it was a great troll.

> [12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
> [12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
> [12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
> [12:34] <Raid> hahahahah
>
> Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
> claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself.

I never claimed to know the person you had the above conversation with,
Dustin, so I don't know what the hell you think you're doing.

> I have
> just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*

<shakes head> What you have is moron credit--if "credit" is really the
appropriate word.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle

[Daito]

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.hackers.malicious.]
On 2007-12-01, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:
>>
>>> 4Q wrote:
>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>>>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a
>>>>>> tool for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8
>>>>>> years ago 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't
>>>>>> learned assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>>>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>>>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>>>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>>>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>>>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>>>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>>>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>>>> the head. *grin*
>>>
>>> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.
>>
>> You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase
>> (pun!) had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:
>>
>> "For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
>> helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
>> his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
>> helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."
>>
>> I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today...
>
> Who's he?
>
>> Aside from going after
>> kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to do
>> with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.
>
> Did I say you did, Dustin?
>
> Your paranoia--and the scenarios you invent as a result--is absolutely
> out of control.
>
>> For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you;
>
> I don't know evul.
>
> But I think you should reread the post I made about what ahm did/does,
> rather than paraphrasing what you think I said.
>
> I never said that ahm helped me. Not once. What I wrote was this:
>
> Message ID: <5q1vdjFtc92uU1@mid.individual.net>
>
> "Do you have a ****ing clue what they do these days? I do. And I'm
> grateful as hell to them for it. Some of those folks are my heros, and
> they know why, because many months ago, I thanked them for it--ThePsyko,
> in particular."
>
> Do you see the word "help" up there? Do you see evul's name up there?
>
> WTF is wrong with you?
>
>> and he's
>> one of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
>> Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...
>
> I hope you got his permission before you posted this.
>
>> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
>> what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
>> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
>> [12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
>> hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
>> [12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
>> [12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
>> [12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
>> [12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
>> I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n
>> tho, I don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
>> [12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
>> [12:06] <evul> cd's?
>> [12:06] <Raid> and dvds
>> [12:06] <evul> lol
>> [12:07] <evul> hell no
>> [12:07] <evul> you can do that
>> [12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
>> [12:07] <evul> i was into warez
>> [12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
>> [12:07] <Raid> hahah
>> [12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here
>> to attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
>> [12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
>> [12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
>> [12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
>> [12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
>> [12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
>> [12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
>> [12:08] <Raid> lol
>> [12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
>> [12:09] <evul> i dun know
>> [12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
>> [12:10] <evul> so you are something different
>> [12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
>> [12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
>> [12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
>> [12:17] <Raid> No.
>> [12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
>> [12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
>> [12:17] <evul> ahh
>> [12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
>> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
>> [12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
>> [12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his lameass
>> [12:18] <evul> one of those
>> [12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
>> [12:18] <Raid> yep
>> [12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
>> him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
>> [12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
>> [12:19] <evul> lol
>> [12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
>> [12:19] <evul> #hhi
>> [12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
>> various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to
>> be featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
>> [12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
>> [12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
>> [12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
>> [12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
>> [12:20] * evul misses the girl
>> [12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
>> [12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
>> [12:20] <evul> yeah
>> [12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
>> [12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
>> [12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
>> [12:21] <evul> got
>> [12:21] <evul> aye
>> [12:21] <evul> i bet
>> [12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
>> she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
>> won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
>> <evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
>> [12:22] <Raid> yep
>> [12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
>> [12:23] <Raid> lol
>> [12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
>> [12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
>> [12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
>> [12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
>> [12:24] <Raid> lol
>> [12:24] <evul> that's funny
>> [12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
>> [12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
>> but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25]
>> <Raid> all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe
>> [12:26] <evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
>> [12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
>> [12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
>> [12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
>> [12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
>> [12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
>> [12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
>> [12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
>> [12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
>> [12:30] <evul> ohh
>> [12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
>> [12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman
>
> You asked if he has a picture. He did. Whether he does anymore or not, I
> don't know. But he knows I'm a woman.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/gp/8438478@N08/4S4359
>
>> [12:31] <evul> lol
>> [12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
>> [12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
>> [12:32] <evul> lol
>> [12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
>> [12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off.
>> [12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is
>> really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
>> completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults
>> on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping
>> Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
>> [12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
>> [12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
>> [12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name
>
> No it isn't. Truly.
>
>> [12:33] <Raid> lol
>> [12:33] <evul> no doubt about it
>
> That's just nonsense. He's not Don Clark. He's not aboriginal. He's not
> gay.
>
> But it was a great troll.
>
>> [12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
>> [12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
>> [12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
>> [12:34] <Raid> hahahahah
>>
>> Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
>> claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself.
>
> I never claimed to know the person you had the above conversation with,
> Dustin, so I don't know what the hell you think you're doing.
>
>> I have
>> just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*
>
><shakes head> What you have is moron credit--if "credit" is really the
> appropriate word.
>
I don't think evul reads ahm much anymore. You should just hop on exilenet
and have real time flamewars with raid.

--

Daito

irc.exilenet.org
#hackers_malicious

[Dustin Cook]

"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rdu32F14c9lvU2
@mid.individual.net:

> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:
>>
>>> 4Q wrote:
>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>>>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a
>>>>>> tool for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8
>>>>>> years ago 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't
>>>>>> learned assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>>>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>>>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>>>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>>>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>>>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>>>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>>>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>>>> the head. *grin*
>>>
>>> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.
>>
>> You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase
>> (pun!) had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:
>>
>> "For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
>> helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
>> his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
>> helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."
>>
>> I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today...
>
> Who's he?
>
>> Aside from going after
>> kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to do
>> with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.
>
> Did I say you did, Dustin?
>
> Your paranoia--and the scenarios you invent as a result--is absolutely
> out of control.
>
>> For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you;
>
> I don't know evul.
>
> But I think you should reread the post I made about what ahm did/does,
> rather than paraphrasing what you think I said.
>
> I never said that ahm helped me. Not once. What I wrote was this:
>
> Message ID: <5q1vdjFtc92uU1@mid.individual.net>
>
> "Do you have a ****ing clue what they do these days? I do. And I'm
> grateful as hell to them for it. Some of those folks are my heros, and
> they know why, because many months ago, I thanked them for it--
ThePsyko,
> in particular."
>
> Do you see the word "help" up there? Do you see evul's name up there?
>
> WTF is wrong with you?
>
>> and he's
>> one of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
>> Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...
>
> I hope you got his permission before you posted this.
>
>> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
>> what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
>> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
>> [12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
>> hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
>> [12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
>> [12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
>> [12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
>> [12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
>> I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n
>> tho, I don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
>> [12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
>> [12:06] <evul> cd's?
>> [12:06] <Raid> and dvds
>> [12:06] <evul> lol
>> [12:07] <evul> hell no
>> [12:07] <evul> you can do that
>> [12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
>> [12:07] <evul> i was into warez
>> [12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
>> [12:07] <Raid> hahah
>> [12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here
>> to attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
>> [12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
>> [12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
>> [12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
>> [12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
>> [12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
>> [12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
>> [12:08] <Raid> lol
>> [12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
>> [12:09] <evul> i dun know
>> [12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
>> [12:10] <evul> so you are something different
>> [12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
>> [12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
>> [12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
>> [12:17] <Raid> No.
>> [12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
>> [12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
>> [12:17] <evul> ahh
>> [12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
>> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
>> [12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
>> [12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his lameass
>> [12:18] <evul> one of those
>> [12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
>> [12:18] <Raid> yep
>> [12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
>> him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
>> [12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
>> [12:19] <evul> lol
>> [12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
>> [12:19] <evul> #hhi
>> [12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
>> various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to
>> be featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
>> [12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
>> [12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
>> [12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
>> [12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
>> [12:20] * evul misses the girl
>> [12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
>> [12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
>> [12:20] <evul> yeah
>> [12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
>> [12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
>> [12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
>> [12:21] <evul> got
>> [12:21] <evul> aye
>> [12:21] <evul> i bet
>> [12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
>> she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
>> won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
>> <evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
>> [12:22] <Raid> yep
>> [12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
>> [12:23] <Raid> lol
>> [12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
>> [12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
>> [12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
>> [12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
>> [12:24] <Raid> lol
>> [12:24] <evul> that's funny
>> [12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
>> [12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
>> but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25]
>> <Raid> all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe
>> [12:26] <evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
>> [12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
>> [12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
>> [12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
>> [12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
>> [12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
>> [12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
>> [12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
>> [12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
>> [12:30] <evul> ohh
>> [12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
>> [12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman
>
> You asked if he has a picture. He did. Whether he does anymore or not,

Re-read it, idiot. He asked me if I had a picture of you. I said I did
not.
>I never claimed to know the person you had the above conversation with,
> Dustin, so I don't know what the hell you think you're doing.

You did say in another post of yours that they did something to help you,
and that I hadn't figured out what it is they do yet. You also did imply
they would in some way shape or form pose a threat to HHI; and they do
not. I responded that I figured they went after pedophiles, not pirates
and fellow hackers, and from what I've been told, that's correct.

Obviously you had an issue with a pedophile and they assisted in his
prosecution or something? Who knows. I don't care. Either way, it has
nothing to do with my activities.

> <shakes head> What you have is moron credit--if "credit" is really the
> appropriate word.

Rhonda, your the only real moron in the entire thread. Nobody emails
there name, address and phone number as an email signature if they don't
intend for it to get around. Sorry, but that's reality. *you* ****ed up.

Despite your weak efforts to claim I made the infamous post in alt.sex, I
personally, did *not* do so. I had a hand in it's creation, sure, and I
take whatever credit that's worth, but you need to get over yourself in a
serious way. You've resorted to stalking me and hijacking threads to
discuss how badly I wronged you with that alt.sex post.





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[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rdu32F14c9lvU2
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:
>>>
>>>> 4Q wrote:
>>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC
>>>>>>> is concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply
>>>>>>> a tool for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8
>>>>>>> years ago 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't
>>>>>>> learned assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3
>>>>>>> years developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based
>>>>>>> malware removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000
>>>>>>> malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able
>>>>>>> to write such a tool certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>>>>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>>>>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>>>>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>>>>> the head. *grin*
>>>>
>>>> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.
>>>
>>> You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase
>>> (pun!) had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:
>>>
>>> "For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
>>> helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
>>> his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
>>> helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."
>>>
>>> I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today...
>>
>> Who's he?
>>
>>> Aside from going after
>>> kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to
>>> do with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.
>>
>> Did I say you did, Dustin?
>>
>> Your paranoia--and the scenarios you invent as a result--is
>> absolutely out of control.
>>
>>> For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you;
>>
>> I don't know evul.
>>
>> But I think you should reread the post I made about what ahm
>> did/does, rather than paraphrasing what you think I said.
>>
>> I never said that ahm helped me. Not once. What I wrote was this:
>>
>> Message ID: <5q1vdjFtc92uU1@mid.individual.net>
>>
>> "Do you have a ****ing clue what they do these days? I do. And I'm
>> grateful as hell to them for it. Some of those folks are my heros,
>> and they know why, because many months ago, I thanked them for it--
>> ThePsyko, in particular."
>>
>> Do you see the word "help" up there? Do you see evul's name up there?
>>
>> WTF is wrong with you?
>>
>>> and he's
>>> one of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
>>> Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...
>>
>> I hope you got his permission before you posted this.
>>
>>> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a
>>> problem... what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is
>>> rhonda? [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
>>> [12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions
>>> and hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
>>> [12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
>>> [12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
>>> [12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
>>> [12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the
>>> fact I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy
>>> pr0n tho, I don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what
>>> is HHI? [12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
>>> [12:06] <evul> cd's?
>>> [12:06] <Raid> and dvds
>>> [12:06] <evul> lol
>>> [12:07] <evul> hell no
>>> [12:07] <evul> you can do that
>>> [12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
>>> [12:07] <evul> i was into warez
>>> [12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
>>> [12:07] <Raid> hahah
>>> [12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here
>>> to attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
>>> [12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
>>> [12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
>>> [12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
>>> [12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
>>> [12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
>>> [12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
>>> [12:08] <Raid> lol
>>> [12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
>>> [12:09] <evul> i dun know
>>> [12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
>>> [12:10] <evul> so you are something different
>>> [12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
>>> [12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
>>> [12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
>>> [12:17] <Raid> No.
>>> [12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
>>> [12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
>>> [12:17] <evul> ahh
>>> [12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
>>> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
>>> [12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
>>> [12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his
>>> lameass [12:18] <evul> one of those
>>> [12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
>>> [12:18] <Raid> yep
>>> [12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells
>>> to him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
>>> [12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
>>> [12:19] <evul> lol
>>> [12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
>>> [12:19] <evul> #hhi
>>> [12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
>>> various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor
>>> to be featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
>>> [12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
>>> [12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
>>> [12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
>>> [12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
>>> [12:20] * evul misses the girl
>>> [12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
>>> [12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
>>> [12:20] <evul> yeah
>>> [12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
>>> [12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
>>> [12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
>>> [12:21] <evul> got
>>> [12:21] <evul> aye
>>> [12:21] <evul> i bet
>>> [12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with
>>> me, she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the
>>> group won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm.
>>> [12:22] <evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
>>> [12:22] <Raid> yep
>>> [12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
>>> [12:23] <Raid> lol
>>> [12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
>>> [12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
>>> [12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
>>> [12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
>>> [12:24] <Raid> lol
>>> [12:24] <evul> that's funny
>>> [12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
>>> [12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the
>>> post, but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol.
>>> [12:25] <Raid> all of these computers look like one computer on the
>>> net. hehe [12:26] <evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she
>>> is ugly [12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
>>> [12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
>>> [12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
>>> [12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
>>> [12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
>>> [12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
>>> [12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
>>> [12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
>>> [12:30] <evul> ohh
>>> [12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
>>> [12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman
>>
>> You asked if he has a picture. He did. Whether he does anymore or
>> not,
>
> Re-read it, idiot. He asked me if I had a picture of you. I said I did
> not.

I was responding to evul, Dustin, which is why the title of this post is
"Ping evul (was...)".

>> I never claimed to know the person you had the above conversation
>> with, Dustin, so I don't know what the hell you think you're doing.
>
> You did say in another post of yours that they did something to help
> you,

No, I didn't, and I have set that forth above, clearly:

>> I never said that ahm helped me. Not once. What I wrote was this:
>>
>> Message ID: <5q1vdjFtc92uU1@mid.individual.net>
>>
>> "Do you have a ****ing clue what they do these days? I do. And I'm
>> grateful as hell to them for it. Some of those folks are my heros,
>> and they know why, because many months ago, I thanked them for it--
>> ThePsyko, in particular."
>>
>> Do you see the word "help" up there? Do you see evul's name up there?

> and that I hadn't figured out what it is they do yet.

Right. And it was just in the last couple of days, which means...
> You also
> did imply they would in some way shape or form pose a threat to HHI;
> and they do not. I responded that I figured they went after
> pedophiles,

....that your claim above is a blatant lie. You did not respond that you
"figured they went after pedophiles," and I challenge you to post proof
to the contrary.

> not pirates and fellow hackers, and from what I've been
> told, that's correct.

And I never told you they "go after" pirates or fellow hackers.

But I bet if you ask them straight out, they don't think well of those
who go real life for the purpose of net.revenge.

> Obviously you had an issue with a pedophile and they assisted in his
> prosecution or something?

"Obviously"? Obviously not, Dustin, or you wouldn't have made it a
question. You're the one who keeps saying they "helped" me. I never said
that. Never.

> Who knows. I don't care. Either way, it has
> nothing to do with my activities.

Obviously you do care, or you wouldn't keep talking about it.

>> <shakes head> What you have is moron credit--if "credit" is really
>> the appropriate word.
>
> Rhonda, your the only real moron in the entire thread. Nobody emails
> there name, address and phone number as an email signature if they
> don't intend for it to get around. Sorry, but that's reality. *you*
> ****ed up.

Dustin, you keep trying to make it my fault that you betrayed my trust
and posted my real life information to alt.sex, inviting people to come
to the house I share with my daughter and my grandmother.

The reality is that you are scum.

> Despite your weak efforts to claim I made the infamous post in
> alt.sex, I personally, did *not* do so. I had a hand in it's
> creation, sure, and I take whatever credit that's worth, but you need
> to get over yourself in a serious way. You've resorted to stalking me
> and hijacking threads to discuss how badly I wronged you with that
> alt.sex post.

Show how I've stalked you, Dustin. I was posting here long before we had
a problem. Indeed, you were the person who kept showing up in places
where you didn't post much in order to respond to posts I was making.
The difference between us is I can document my allegations and you
cannot.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle

[Sugien]

"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99F994A84621EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121.. .
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:
>
>> 4Q wrote:
>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>>
>>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
>>>>> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
>>>>> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
>>>>> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>>
>>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>>
>>>
>>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>>> the head. *grin*
>>
>> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.
>
> You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase (pun!)
> had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:
>
> "For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
> helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
> his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
> helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."
>
> I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today... Aside from going after
> kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to do
> with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.
>
> For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you; and he's one
> of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
> Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...
>
> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
> what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
> [12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
> hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
> [12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
> [12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
> [12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
> [12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
> I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n tho, I
> don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
> [12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
> [12:06] <evul> cd's?
> [12:06] <Raid> and dvds
> [12:06] <evul> lol
> [12:07] <evul> hell no
> [12:07] <evul> you can do that
> [12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
> [12:07] <evul> i was into warez
> [12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
> [12:07] <Raid> hahah
> [12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here to
> attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
> [12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
> [12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
> [12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
> [12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
> [12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
> [12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
> [12:08] <Raid> lol
> [12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
> [12:09] <evul> i dun know
> [12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
> [12:10] <evul> so you are something different
> [12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
> [12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
> [12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
> [12:17] <Raid> No.
> [12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
> [12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
> [12:17] <evul> ahh
> [12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
> [12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
> [12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his lameass
> [12:18] <evul> one of those
> [12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
> [12:18] <Raid> yep
> [12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
> him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
> [12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
> [12:19] <evul> lol
> [12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
> [12:19] <evul> #hhi
> [12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
> various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to be
> featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
> [12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
> [12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
> [12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
> [12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
> [12:20] * evul misses the girl
> [12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
> [12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
> [12:20] <evul> yeah
> [12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
> [12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
> [12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
> [12:21] <evul> got
> [12:21] <evul> aye
> [12:21] <evul> i bet
> [12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
> she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
> won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
> <evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
> [12:22] <Raid> yep
> [12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
> [12:23] <Raid> lol
> [12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
> [12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
> [12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
> [12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
> [12:24] <Raid> lol
> [12:24] <evul> that's funny
> [12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
> [12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
> but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25] <Raid>
> all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe [12:26]
> <evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
> [12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
> [12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
> [12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
> [12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
> [12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
> [12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
> [12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
> [12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
> [12:30] <evul> ohh
> [12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
> [12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman
> [12:31] <evul> lol
> [12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
> [12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
> [12:32] <evul> lol
> [12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
> [12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off.
> [12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is
> really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
> completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults on
> everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping Kadaitcha.
> Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
> [12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
> [12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
> [12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name
> [12:33] <Raid> lol
> [12:33] <evul> no doubt about it
> [12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
> [12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
> [12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
> [12:34] <Raid> hahahahah
>
> Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
> claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself. I have
> just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*
>
>
>
hey Dustin, a quick question: in the above exchange this part:

12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
[12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..

I don't know and maybe I am just reading this wrong; but you (Raid) would
seem to be saying that 4Q created *your* program "bughunter"? and is co
founder of *your* HHI group? Maybe I am just having a brain fart; but
that's the way it reads to me.


--
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[Dustin Cook]

"Sugien" <paulbryantsr@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ididnbBwG-CGfszanZ2dnUVZ_sOrnZ2d@adelphia.com:

> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns99F994A84621EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121.. .
>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:
>>
>>> 4Q wrote:
>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>>>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a
>>>>>> tool for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8
>>>>>> years ago 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't
>>>>>> learned assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3
>>>>>> years developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based
>>>>>> malware removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000
>>>>>> malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to
>>>>>> write such a tool certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>>>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>>>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>>>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>>>> the head. *grin*
>>>
>>> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.
>>
>> You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase
>> (pun!) had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:
>>
>> "For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
>> helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
>> his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
>> helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."
>>
>> I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today... Aside from going after
>> kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to
>> do with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.
>>
>> For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you; and he's
>> one of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
>> Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...
>>
>> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
>> what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
>> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
>> [12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
>> hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
>> [12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
>> [12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
>> [12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
>> [12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
>> I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n
>> tho, I don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
>> [12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
>> [12:06] <evul> cd's?
>> [12:06] <Raid> and dvds
>> [12:06] <evul> lol
>> [12:07] <evul> hell no
>> [12:07] <evul> you can do that
>> [12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
>> [12:07] <evul> i was into warez
>> [12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
>> [12:07] <Raid> hahah
>> [12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here
>> to attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
>> [12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
>> [12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
>> [12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
>> [12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
>> [12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
>> [12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
>> [12:08] <Raid> lol
>> [12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
>> [12:09] <evul> i dun know
>> [12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
>> [12:10] <evul> so you are something different
>> [12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
>> [12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
>> [12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
>> [12:17] <Raid> No.
>> [12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
>> [12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
>> [12:17] <evul> ahh
>> [12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
>> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
>> [12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
>> [12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his
>> lameass [12:18] <evul> one of those
>> [12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
>> [12:18] <Raid> yep
>> [12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
>> him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
>> [12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
>> [12:19] <evul> lol
>> [12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
>> [12:19] <evul> #hhi
>> [12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
>> various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to
>> be featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
>> [12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
>> [12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
>> [12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
>> [12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
>> [12:20] * evul misses the girl
>> [12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
>> [12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
>> [12:20] <evul> yeah
>> [12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
>> [12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
>> [12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
>> [12:21] <evul> got
>> [12:21] <evul> aye
>> [12:21] <evul> i bet
>> [12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
>> she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
>> won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
>> <evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
>> [12:22] <Raid> yep
>> [12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
>> [12:23] <Raid> lol
>> [12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
>> [12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
>> [12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
>> [12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
>> [12:24] <Raid> lol
>> [12:24] <evul> that's funny
>> [12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
>> [12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
>> but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25]
>> <Raid> all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe
>> [12:26] <evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
>> [12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
>> [12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
>> [12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
>> [12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
>> [12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
>> [12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
>> [12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
>> [12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
>> [12:30] <evul> ohh
>> [12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
>> [12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman
>> [12:31] <evul> lol
>> [12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
>> [12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
>> [12:32] <evul> lol
>> [12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
>> [12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off.
>> [12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there
>> is really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
>> completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults
>> on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping
>> Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
>> [12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
>> [12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
>> [12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name
>> [12:33] <Raid> lol
>> [12:33] <evul> no doubt about it
>> [12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
>> [12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
>> [12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
>> [12:34] <Raid> hahahahah
>>
>> Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
>> claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself. I have
>> just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*
>>
>>
>>
> hey Dustin, a quick question: in the above exchange this part:
>
> 12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
>
> I don't know and maybe I am just reading this wrong; but you (Raid)
> would seem to be saying that 4Q created *your* program "bughunter"?
> and is co founder of *your* HHI group? Maybe I am just having a brain
> fart; but that's the way it reads to me.


You read it wrong. No biggie tho, Rhonda did as well. I didn't call
her a troll or whatever, Evul did.




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