US Teen (Author of Bug****) Arrested as 'Spybot Mastermind'

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

4Q wrote:
> 4Q wrote:
>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:fisvbs$kgr$1
>>> @news.datemas.de:
>>>
>>>> Daito wrote:
>>>>> ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.hackers.malicious.]
>>>>> On 2007-12-01, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snipped>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think evul reads ahm much anymore. You should just hop on
>>>>> exilenet and have real time flamewars with raid.
>>>>
>>>> If it were possible to have a real flamewar with Dustin, it would
>>>> be worth it, but watching him wobble like a Weeble when he tries
>>>> to spin the facts makes me dizzy. Had it not been for his
>>>> unprovoked attack on
>>>
>>> Spin what facts? usenet previous posts (some anyway) are available
>>> for everyone to read.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Laura Fredericks, I'd not have had much, if anything, to say to him
>>>> again.
>>>
>>> The attack wasn't unprovoked. And it's resolved, and was resolved
>>> without you having anything to do with it.
>>>
>>>> For me, the real draw in all this is reading 4Q's hilarious
>>>> parodies.
>>>
>>>> Dustin is just a sideshow, if that.
>>>
>>> And yet, you find it necessary to hijack any thread I might post in.
>>> How many times in the past week now have you mentioned the alt.sex
>>> post?
>>>
>>
>> If anything it's quite appropriate to
>> keep mentioning your malicious sexual
>> deviance in a group 'AHM' that tracks
>> down sexual deviants. A bit of
>> background on how you play fire,
>> aligning yourself with potential
>> sexual predators might be useful to
>> AHMers so they don't find themselves
>> in a bit of a contraction (morality
>> wise).
>
> *contradiction
>

No one likes outer filth, and Dustin compounded his sin by exposing my
family and me to danger from sexual opportunists. It's too bad he still
doesn't comprehend the gravity of what he did.

I wonder if he will ever understand that if one of the women in my
household had been sexually assaulted as a result, he would've been held
criminally liable?

>> I wonder if they found it interesting
>> that you tried to buy Rhonda off with
>> your $300 hush money?
>>

That was the most amazing part of the whole thing, I think.
Unfortunately, he feels that because the FBI failed to show up at his
door, he can continue to do as he was doing. He doesn't quite understand
that he builds a case against himself with each new post.

>>
>> 4Q
>> p.s. Rhonda check your email.

Tag. You're it.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:c3452a3b-d552-4264-8fd8-
> 5a957cee4c96@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> <snip>
>
> That's right, you can't attack BugHunter anymore without looking like
> a total and complete ****ing idiot,

Do you get yet that there are people who sincerely believe that those
who use your program are being set up to take a fall? You're engaging in
this life and death battle with someone who is doing comedy at your
expense, and in the process, your own actions show you still can't be
trusted. You're doing it to yourself, Dustin.

> so your going to try and claim
> I'm a sexual deviant in some way shape or form. You should just give
> it up, accept that I 0wn you and we can go from there.



Why did you snip what he wrote, Dustin?

>> If anything it's quite appropriate to
>> keep mentioning your malicious sexual
>> deviance in a group 'AHM' that tracks
>> down sexual deviants. A bit of
>> background on how you play fire,
>> aligning yourself with potential
>> sexual predators might be useful to
>> AHMers so they don't find themselves
>> in a bit of a contraction (morality
>> wise).

> *contradiction

What kind of person posts a woman's information to alt.sex the way you
did? What kind of character does it show, Dustin, but one that is
deviant?

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

AUK Galactic Killfile, 15 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.u...766545e259d53c
Winner, Golden Killfile, April 2007
Co-Office Holder, Ministry of Circle Jerks, April and May 2007
Member, Human O-Ring Society, March 2003
NCB#16 BJDS#2 INAC#77 PSLCK#1 SBG#1 A-29204

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle

[4Q]

Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> 4Q wrote:
> > 4Q wrote:
> >> Dustin Cook wrote:
> >>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:fisvbs$kgr$1
> >>> @news.datemas.de:
> >>>
> >>>> Daito wrote:
> >>>>> ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.hackers.malicious.]
> >>>>> On 2007-12-01, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> <snipped>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I don't think evul reads ahm much anymore. You should just hop on
> >>>>> exilenet and have real time flamewars with raid.
> >>>>
> >>>> If it were possible to have a real flamewar with Dustin, it would
> >>>> be worth it, but watching him wobble like a Weeble when he tries
> >>>> to spin the facts makes me dizzy. Had it not been for his
> >>>> unprovoked attack on
> >>>
> >>> Spin what facts? usenet previous posts (some anyway) are available
> >>> for everyone to read.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Laura Fredericks, I'd not have had much, if anything, to say to him
> >>>> again.
> >>>
> >>> The attack wasn't unprovoked. And it's resolved, and was resolved
> >>> without you having anything to do with it.
> >>>
> >>>> For me, the real draw in all this is reading 4Q's hilarious
> >>>> parodies.
> >>>
> >>>> Dustin is just a sideshow, if that.
> >>>
> >>> And yet, you find it necessary to hijack any thread I might post in.
> >>> How many times in the past week now have you mentioned the alt.sex
> >>> post?
> >>>
> >>
> >> If anything it's quite appropriate to
> >> keep mentioning your malicious sexual
> >> deviance in a group 'AHM' that tracks
> >> down sexual deviants. A bit of
> >> background on how you play fire,
> >> aligning yourself with potential
> >> sexual predators might be useful to
> >> AHMers so they don't find themselves
> >> in a bit of a contraction (morality
> >> wise).
> >
> > *contradiction
> >
>
> No one likes outer filth, and Dustin compounded his sin by exposing my
> family and me to danger from sexual opportunists. It's too bad he still
> doesn't comprehend the gravity of what he did.
>
> I wonder if he will ever understand that if one of the women in my
> household had been sexually assaulted as a result, he would've been held
> criminally liable?
>
> >> I wonder if they found it interesting
> >> that you tried to buy Rhonda off with
> >> your $300 hush money?
> >>
>
> That was the most amazing part of the whole thing, I think.
> Unfortunately, he feels that because the FBI failed to show up at his
> door, he can continue to do as he was doing. He doesn't quite understand
> that he builds a case against himself with each new post.
>
> >>
> >> 4Q
> >> p.s. Rhonda check your email.
>
> Tag. You're it.
>

Tag you back

[Dustin Cook]

"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rft4hF1488r0U1
@mid.individual.net:

> And does evul know you posted that chat?

Yes, in fact he does.




--
Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2d
Email.: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com
Web...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
Pad...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml
PGP...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/bughunter.dustin.txt

[Dustin Cook]

"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rfuueF14e1ebU1
@mid.individual.net:

> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:c3452a3b-d552-4264-8fd8-
>> 5a957cee4c96@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> That's right, you can't attack BugHunter anymore without looking like
>> a total and complete ****ing idiot,
>
> Do you get yet that there are people who sincerely believe that those
> who use your program are being set up to take a fall? You're engaging

Sure. People sincerely believed the earth was flat and they'd fall off of
it too. It seems to be taking an awfully long time for this setup to take
place tho. going on.. 3 years now. You do realize, the more you
badmouth the program, the more curiosity you bring to it.

> What kind of person posts a woman's information to alt.sex the way you
> did? What kind of character does it show, Dustin, but one that is
> deviant?

I tell you what Rhonda, since this is beyond old. You *prove* *I* made
the post, and I'll apologize for it. On the other hand, if you cannot
prove *I* made the post, you'll quit bringing it up? Acceptable terms?

FYI, slight hint regarding your evidence of my previous nick. It was
Gremlin, not "The Gremlin". I don't expect you to see the humour in that,
as you don't seem to understand the concept of LAN. Ask your new best
friend 4Q to explain it to you, obviously k**** couldn't teach you.




--
Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2d
Email.: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com
Web...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
Pad...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml
PGP...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/bughunter.dustin.txt

[Sugien]

"James Egan" <jegan@jegan.com> wrote in message
news:5rfpu0F14fo1mU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:03:22 -0500, "Sugien" <paulbryantsr@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I was only making an observation; because I surely wouldn't be
>>permoting the bloatation of code just because the hardware is faster. I
>>was
>>using an example to *try* and say that what with the speed of hardware
>>doubling ever 18 months or so it becomes less and less important *which*
>>language you use to create software.
>
>
> With conciseness of code being seen as very important to the
> reputation and prestige of the old school virus/worm writers I find it
> rather amusing that the one that caused me most grief (swen) was down
> to it's rather large size filling up my mailbox allowance faster than
> I could empty it. Of course, it wouldn't be a problem these days with
> server side filtering which I didn't have at the time.
>
>
>> oan, I am becoming more and more distressed with the way software in
>>general is going. What with web apps being the rage now days, the
>>industry
>>seems to be wanting to not allow uses to *own* software. In as much as
>>before web apps a user could own (linsence) an entire program for there
>>hard
>>earned bucks. Web apps on the other hand are only giving the user a GUI
>>or
>>front end with the actual code remaining on the developers servers.
>
>
> I can see that applying to (very expensive) specialist software but
> not to the mass market stuff.
>
>
>> Along
>>with that even the language developers themselves are trying to take the
>>power out of the programmers hands. VB dot NET for example is imnsho less
>>powerful then VB6, well in as much that dot net is in the forefront of
>>ushering in the era of the web app.
>
>
> But you can use vb.net for ordinary programs if you want. They don't
> have to be web apps.
>
> I wouldn't call it upgrading, though, because the one time I tried
> upgrading a vb6 program to vb.net, it added about 30% onto the running
> time of what was already a slow conversion program.

I thing when someone goes from VB6 to dot net they are in fact
*downgrading*, and I likewise gave up on converting my software to VBnet;
because it also lacks the same power when integrating activeX controls. and
the likes. Dang VB5 even came with a test CERT; but after M$ found out that
people were using it outside on the web and such instead of a in-house tool
to test before getting a real CERT for it. VBnet also makes it more
difficult to use macromedia flash to design the GUI's or to even use flash
animation on a form.

>
>
>> Convergence being the hot button word now days, it might not be long
>>before even hardware is controlled by web apps. The powers that be may be
>>trying to usher in the days where you don't have a *true* os; but only
>>enough on your machine to boot it up and log onto a server where the rest
>>of
>>the os is then loaded.
>
> Perhaps to improve distribution functionality within corporate
> intranets but not in the mass personal use market where everyone wants
> there own customisation and specific hardware installed.
>
>
I think the public could be *forced* to change in-mass to such a system;
because it is the developers that *dictate* what the public uses. If
developers agreed to only develop and sell such a system the public would
have no choice except to agree. Well that is unless they were to wake up and
get off their VR buts and LEARN how to create their own OS. Just think
about it, most all users being able to program their own. That however is
not going to happen; because 99.999% of users are quite happy to know *only*
what they need to know and have no interest nor desire to learn about their
systems.


--
From the Desk of Sugien CSK
/}
@###{ ]::::::Cyber Striker Knight::::::>
\}

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rft4hF1488r0U1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> And does evul know you posted that chat?
>
> Yes, in fact he does.

I'm not sure I believe you, Dustin.

But please be sure to let him know that Don Clark was an innocent
bystander who had absolutely nothing to do with usenet.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rfuueF14e1ebU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:c3452a3b-d552-4264-8fd8-
>>> 5a957cee4c96@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> That's right, you can't attack BugHunter anymore without looking
>>> like a total and complete ****ing idiot,
>>
>> Do you get yet that there are people who sincerely believe that those
>> who use your program are being set up to take a fall? You're engaging
>
> Sure. People sincerely believed the earth was flat and they'd fall
> off of it too. It seems to be taking an awfully long time for this
> setup to take place tho. going on.. 3 years now. You do realize,
> the more you badmouth the program, the more curiosity you bring to it.
>
>> What kind of person posts a woman's information to alt.sex the way
>> you did? What kind of character does it show, Dustin, but one that is
>> deviant?
>
> I tell you what Rhonda, since this is beyond old. You *prove* *I*
> made the post, and I'll apologize for it. On the other hand, if you
> cannot prove *I* made the post, you'll quit bringing it up?
> Acceptable terms?

No, Dustin.

It was made from your account, using information that none of your
associates could have possessed unless you gave it to them.

No one believes your bull**** story, Dustin, especially not me.

> FYI, slight hint regarding your evidence of my previous nick. It was
> Gremlin, not "The Gremlin". I don't expect you to see the humour in
> that, as you don't seem to understand the concept of LAN. Ask your
> new best friend 4Q to explain it to you, obviously k**** couldn't
> teach you.

I love it. "The concept of a LAN." You ****ing idiot.

What part of the "concept" that "no one had that address but you, so
trying to pass it off on someone else won't work" don't you understand?

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle

[kurt wismer]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rd4ntF1472pkU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>> Dustin Cook wrote:
[snip]
>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>
> *yawn* Substance, can you produce any substance?

well, for once she produced truth, does that count?

it's not a debate... none of it is a debate, it's all just trolling and
you keep falling for it... rhonda is a troll, 4q aka pzest aka paul zest
is a troll (surprised you didn't pull out the nick pzest when evul asked
who 4q was), and a few other people i could name are trolls...

you clearly aren't going to go away as some trolling victims do, so they
latch on to you as a persistent source of 'nourishment' (don't feed the
trolls)... and that is the answer to the question of "why?"... why they
start **** with you is because you give them the response they crave,
you bring it on yourself by not ignoring them... as long as you keep
feeding them they'll keep coming around looking for more...

you need to learn to rise above attacks against your ego... reaction is
proof of a vulnerable spot... "if neither foes nor loving friends can
hurt you" (http://www.swarthmore.edu/~apreset1/docs/if.html)...

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

4Q wrote:
> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>> 4Q wrote:

>>>> p.s. Rhonda check your email.
>>
>> Tag. You're it.
>>
>
> Tag you back

But you're still "it."

rl