US Teen (Author of Bug****) Arrested as 'Spybot Mastermind'

[Dustin Cook]

Me <no-address_for_spammers@no-address.com> wrote in
news:k2p1l3li51kij6233vdpf99t6mikrkfelb@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:45:13 GMT, Dustin Cook
> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>I don't quiet understand why you want to debate one's choice in tools
>>anyway. It's as boring as the pascal vs c fights done long ago on
>>fidonet. It wasn't useful then either, People will write in whatever
>>languages they please. It's the end result that matters to the masses,
>>not whether or not it's pure assembler.
>
> That seems so flaming obvious that it amazes me that someone has to
> remind the pseudo code snobs of it now and again. I say pseudo code
> snobs, because it's really not snobbery... it's insecurity. On
> occasion I write assembler. I have on occasions used ASIC, but I write
> most things I code in plain old VB6... whatever accomplishes the end
> result I want in the manner that I'd like it accomplished. Honestly,
> if all you've got to do is critique my choice of language for my apps
> (which work), you really need to get a job... or a hobby.... or both,
> and put your energy towards something that might have some impact on
> the life - that you need to get. :-)

Agreed.

> Oh, back on subject of the thread, as far as I'm concerned, execute
> the weasel. Botnets are responsible for most spam these days, and in
> my not so humble opinion, all spammers should be removed from the gene
> pool, sociopathic scum that they are.

As long as the weasel isn't me, I have no quarrels.




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[Dustin Cook]

"Sugien" <paulbryantsr@gmail.com> wrote in
news:tt2dnfkz-bytlMzanZ2dnUVZ_tGonZ2d@adelphia.com:

> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns99F8E8E69BBB0HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121.. .
>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>
>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
>> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
>> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
>> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years developing
>> a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be operational for
>> scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware removal tool that
>> currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers,
>> etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool certainly proves I do
>> know assembler.
>>
>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate one's choice in tools
>> anyway. It's as boring as the pascal vs c fights done long ago on
>
>
> I agree; because I can cobble together code from snippets of just
> about any language. What ole QQQQ doesn't understand is that how or
> what you use to make something isn't as important as how well it
> words. In my case, I only have to understand what the code does and I
> don't fill my brain with re-inventing the wheel type stuff when there
> are code libraries out there that are FREE for the taking.

Sugien, 4Q is intentionally being an arse over the language fights. He
knows full well that it's really not that important.

> Shoot even speed of execution now days isn't near as important as
> it

I'm not sure I agree with the idea of bloating code just because
equipment is faster now, tho....


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[Dustin Cook]

"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rd4ntF1472pkU1
@mid.individual.net:

> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>
>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
>> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
>> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
>> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years developing
>> a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be operational for
>> scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware removal tool that
>> currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers,
>> etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool certainly proves I do
>> know assembler.
>>
>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>
> You don't understand it's not a debate.

*yawn* Substance, can you produce any substance?


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[Dustin Cook]

"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:

> 4Q wrote:
>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>
>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
>>>> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
>>>> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
>>>> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>
>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>
>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>
>>
>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>> the head. *grin*
>
> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.

You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase (pun!)
had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:

"For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."

I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today... Aside from going after
kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to do
with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.

For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you; and he's one
of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...

[12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
[12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
[12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
[12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
[12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
[12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
[12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n tho, I
don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
[12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
[12:06] <evul> cd's?
[12:06] <Raid> and dvds
[12:06] <evul> lol
[12:07] <evul> hell no
[12:07] <evul> you can do that
[12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
[12:07] <evul> i was into warez
[12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
[12:07] <Raid> hahah
[12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here to
attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
[12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
[12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
[12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
[12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
[12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
[12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
[12:08] <Raid> lol
[12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
[12:09] <evul> i dun know
[12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
[12:10] <evul> so you are something different
[12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
[12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
[12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
[12:17] <Raid> No.
[12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
[12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
[12:17] <evul> ahh
[12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
[12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
[12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
[12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his lameass
[12:18] <evul> one of those
[12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
[12:18] <Raid> yep
[12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
[12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
[12:19] <evul> lol
[12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
[12:19] <evul> #hhi
[12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to be
featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
[12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
[12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
[12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
[12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
[12:20] * evul misses the girl
[12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
[12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
[12:20] <evul> yeah
[12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
[12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
[12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
[12:21] <evul> got
[12:21] <evul> aye
[12:21] <evul> i bet
[12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
<evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
[12:22] <Raid> yep
[12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
[12:23] <Raid> lol
[12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
[12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
[12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
[12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
[12:24] <Raid> lol
[12:24] <evul> that's funny
[12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
[12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25] <Raid>
all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe [12:26]
<evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
[12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
[12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
[12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
[12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
[12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
[12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
[12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
[12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
[12:30] <evul> ohh
[12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
[12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman
[12:31] <evul> lol
[12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
[12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
[12:32] <evul> lol
[12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
[12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off.
[12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is
really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults on
everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping Kadaitcha.
Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
[12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
[12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
[12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name
[12:33] <Raid> lol
[12:33] <evul> no doubt about it
[12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
[12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
[12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
[12:34] <Raid> hahahahah

Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself. I have
just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*



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[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:
>
>> 4Q wrote:
>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>>
>>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a
>>>>> tool for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8
>>>>> years ago 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't
>>>>> learned assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>>
>>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>>
>>>
>>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>>> the head. *grin*
>>
>> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.
>
> You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase
> (pun!) had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:
>
> "For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
> helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
> his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
> helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."
>
> I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today...

Who's he?

> Aside from going after
> kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to do
> with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.

Did I say you did, Dustin?

Your paranoia--and the scenarios you invent as a result--is absolutely
out of control.

> For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you;

I don't know evul.

But I think you should reread the post I made about what ahm did/does,
rather than paraphrasing what you think I said.

I never said that ahm helped me. Not once. What I wrote was this:

Message ID: <5q1vdjFtc92uU1@mid.individual.net>

"Do you have a ****ing clue what they do these days? I do. And I'm
grateful as hell to them for it. Some of those folks are my heros, and
they know why, because many months ago, I thanked them for it--ThePsyko,
in particular."

Do you see the word "help" up there? Do you see evul's name up there?

WTF is wrong with you?

> and he's
> one of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
> Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...

I hope you got his permission before you posted this.

> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
> what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
> [12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
> hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
> [12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
> [12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
> [12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
> [12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
> I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n
> tho, I don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
> [12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
> [12:06] <evul> cd's?
> [12:06] <Raid> and dvds
> [12:06] <evul> lol
> [12:07] <evul> hell no
> [12:07] <evul> you can do that
> [12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
> [12:07] <evul> i was into warez
> [12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
> [12:07] <Raid> hahah
> [12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here
> to attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
> [12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
> [12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
> [12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
> [12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
> [12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
> [12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
> [12:08] <Raid> lol
> [12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
> [12:09] <evul> i dun know
> [12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
> [12:10] <evul> so you are something different
> [12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
> [12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
> [12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
> [12:17] <Raid> No.
> [12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
> [12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
> [12:17] <evul> ahh
> [12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
> [12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
> [12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his lameass
> [12:18] <evul> one of those
> [12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
> [12:18] <Raid> yep
> [12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
> him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
> [12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
> [12:19] <evul> lol
> [12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
> [12:19] <evul> #hhi
> [12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
> various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to
> be featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
> [12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
> [12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
> [12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
> [12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
> [12:20] * evul misses the girl
> [12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
> [12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
> [12:20] <evul> yeah
> [12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
> [12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
> [12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
> [12:21] <evul> got
> [12:21] <evul> aye
> [12:21] <evul> i bet
> [12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
> she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
> won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
> <evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
> [12:22] <Raid> yep
> [12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
> [12:23] <Raid> lol
> [12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
> [12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
> [12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
> [12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
> [12:24] <Raid> lol
> [12:24] <evul> that's funny
> [12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
> [12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
> but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25]
> <Raid> all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe
> [12:26] <evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
> [12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
> [12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
> [12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
> [12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
> [12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
> [12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
> [12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
> [12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
> [12:30] <evul> ohh
> [12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
> [12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman

You asked if he has a picture. He did. Whether he does anymore or not, I
don't know. But he knows I'm a woman.

http://www.flickr.com/gp/8438478@N08/4S4359

> [12:31] <evul> lol
> [12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
> [12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
> [12:32] <evul> lol
> [12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
> [12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off.
> [12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is
> really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
> completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults
> on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping
> Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
> [12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
> [12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
> [12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name

No it isn't. Truly.

> [12:33] <Raid> lol
> [12:33] <evul> no doubt about it

That's just nonsense. He's not Don Clark. He's not aboriginal. He's not
gay.

But it was a great troll.

> [12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
> [12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
> [12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
> [12:34] <Raid> hahahahah
>
> Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
> claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself.

I never claimed to know the person you had the above conversation with,
Dustin, so I don't know what the hell you think you're doing.

> I have
> just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*

<shakes head> What you have is moron credit--if "credit" is really the
appropriate word.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rd4ntF1472pkU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>
>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
>>> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
>>> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
>>> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>
>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>
>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>
> *yawn* Substance, can you produce any substance?

Can you stay on topic?

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle

[Sugien]

"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99F994A84621EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121.. .
> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:
>
>> 4Q wrote:
>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>>
>>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
>>>>> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
>>>>> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
>>>>> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>>
>>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>>
>>>
>>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>>> the head. *grin*
>>
>> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.
>
> You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase (pun!)
> had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:
>
> "For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
> helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
> his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
> helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."
>
> I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today... Aside from going after
> kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to do
> with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.
>
> For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you; and he's one
> of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
> Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...
>
> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
> what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
> [12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
> hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
> [12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
> [12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
> [12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
> [12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
> I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n tho, I
> don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
> [12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
> [12:06] <evul> cd's?
> [12:06] <Raid> and dvds
> [12:06] <evul> lol
> [12:07] <evul> hell no
> [12:07] <evul> you can do that
> [12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
> [12:07] <evul> i was into warez
> [12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
> [12:07] <Raid> hahah
> [12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here to
> attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
> [12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
> [12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
> [12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
> [12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
> [12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
> [12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
> [12:08] <Raid> lol
> [12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
> [12:09] <evul> i dun know
> [12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
> [12:10] <evul> so you are something different
> [12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
> [12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
> [12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
> [12:17] <Raid> No.
> [12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
> [12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
> [12:17] <evul> ahh
> [12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
> [12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
> [12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his lameass
> [12:18] <evul> one of those
> [12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
> [12:18] <Raid> yep
> [12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
> him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
> [12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
> [12:19] <evul> lol
> [12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
> [12:19] <evul> #hhi
> [12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
> various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to be
> featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
> [12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
> [12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
> [12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
> [12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
> [12:20] * evul misses the girl
> [12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
> [12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
> [12:20] <evul> yeah
> [12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
> [12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
> [12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
> [12:21] <evul> got
> [12:21] <evul> aye
> [12:21] <evul> i bet
> [12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
> she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
> won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
> <evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
> [12:22] <Raid> yep
> [12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
> [12:23] <Raid> lol
> [12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
> [12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
> [12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
> [12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
> [12:24] <Raid> lol
> [12:24] <evul> that's funny
> [12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
> [12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
> but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25] <Raid>
> all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe [12:26]
> <evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
> [12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
> [12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
> [12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
> [12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
> [12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
> [12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
> [12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
> [12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
> [12:30] <evul> ohh
> [12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
> [12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman
> [12:31] <evul> lol
> [12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
> [12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
> [12:32] <evul> lol
> [12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
> [12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off.
> [12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is
> really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
> completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults on
> everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping Kadaitcha.
> Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
> [12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
> [12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
> [12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name
> [12:33] <Raid> lol
> [12:33] <evul> no doubt about it
> [12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
> [12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
> [12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
> [12:34] <Raid> hahahahah
>
> Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
> claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself. I have
> just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*
>
>
>
hey Dustin, a quick question: in the above exchange this part:

12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
[12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..

I don't know and maybe I am just reading this wrong; but you (Raid) would
seem to be saying that 4Q created *your* program "bughunter"? and is co
founder of *your* HHI group? Maybe I am just having a brain fart; but
that's the way it reads to me.


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[Sugien]

"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99F9935E8AD24HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121.. .
> "Sugien" <paulbryantsr@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:tt2dnfkz-bytlMzanZ2dnUVZ_tGonZ2d@adelphia.com:
>
>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns99F8E8E69BBB0HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121.. .
>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>
>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
>>> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
>>> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
>>> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years developing
>>> a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be operational for
>>> scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware removal tool that
>>> currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers,
>>> etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool certainly proves I do
>>> know assembler.
>>>
>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate one's choice in tools
>>> anyway. It's as boring as the pascal vs c fights done long ago on
>>
>>
>> I agree; because I can cobble together code from snippets of just
>> about any language. What ole QQQQ doesn't understand is that how or
>> what you use to make something isn't as important as how well it
>> words. In my case, I only have to understand what the code does and I
>> don't fill my brain with re-inventing the wheel type stuff when there
>> are code libraries out there that are FREE for the taking.
>
> Sugien, 4Q is intentionally being an arse over the language fights. He
> knows full well that it's really not that important.
>
>> Shoot even speed of execution now days isn't near as important as
>> it
>
> I'm not sure I agree with the idea of bloating code just because
> equipment is faster now, tho....
>
>
I was only making an observation; because I surely wouldn't be
permoting the bloatation of code just because the hardware is faster. I was
using an example to *try* and say that what with the speed of hardware
doubling ever 18 months or so it becomes less and less important *which*
language you use to create software.
oan, I am becoming more and more distressed with the way software in
general is going. What with web apps being the rage now days, the industry
seems to be wanting to not allow uses to *own* software. In as much as
before web apps a user could own (linsence) an entire program for there hard
earned bucks. Web apps on the other hand are only giving the user a GUI or
front end with the actual code remaining on the developers servers. Along
with that even the language developers themselves are trying to take the
power out of the programmers hands. VB dot NET for example is imnsho less
powerful then VB6, well in as much that dot net is in the forefront of
ushering in the era of the web app.
Convergence being the hot button word now days, it might not be long
before even hardware is controlled by web apps. The powers that be may be
trying to usher in the days where you don't have a *true* os; but only
enough on your machine to boot it up and log onto a server where the rest of
the os is then loaded. I think this will come about if for no other reason
, then because as a way to attempt securing the os from virus and malware
and the likes. In effect taking the temptation out of the hands of the user
to click on everything that comes down their pipe into there in box and
removing most all vectors of infection out of the hands of the user, by
having the majority of the os hosted off site on the os developers servers.
I am not even say that , that would be a bad thing; but it surely would be
taking the computing world down through a hither for unknown path.


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[Daito]

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.hackers.malicious.]
On 2007-12-01, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:
>>
>>> 4Q wrote:
>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>>>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a
>>>>>> tool for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8
>>>>>> years ago 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't
>>>>>> learned assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>>>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>>>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>>>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>>>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>>>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>>>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>>>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>>>> the head. *grin*
>>>
>>> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.
>>
>> You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase
>> (pun!) had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:
>>
>> "For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
>> helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
>> his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
>> helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."
>>
>> I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today...
>
> Who's he?
>
>> Aside from going after
>> kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to do
>> with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.
>
> Did I say you did, Dustin?
>
> Your paranoia--and the scenarios you invent as a result--is absolutely
> out of control.
>
>> For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you;
>
> I don't know evul.
>
> But I think you should reread the post I made about what ahm did/does,
> rather than paraphrasing what you think I said.
>
> I never said that ahm helped me. Not once. What I wrote was this:
>
> Message ID: <5q1vdjFtc92uU1@mid.individual.net>
>
> "Do you have a ****ing clue what they do these days? I do. And I'm
> grateful as hell to them for it. Some of those folks are my heros, and
> they know why, because many months ago, I thanked them for it--ThePsyko,
> in particular."
>
> Do you see the word "help" up there? Do you see evul's name up there?
>
> WTF is wrong with you?
>
>> and he's
>> one of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
>> Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...
>
> I hope you got his permission before you posted this.
>
>> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
>> what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
>> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
>> [12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
>> hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
>> [12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
>> [12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
>> [12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
>> [12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
>> I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n
>> tho, I don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
>> [12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
>> [12:06] <evul> cd's?
>> [12:06] <Raid> and dvds
>> [12:06] <evul> lol
>> [12:07] <evul> hell no
>> [12:07] <evul> you can do that
>> [12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
>> [12:07] <evul> i was into warez
>> [12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
>> [12:07] <Raid> hahah
>> [12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here
>> to attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
>> [12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
>> [12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
>> [12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
>> [12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
>> [12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
>> [12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
>> [12:08] <Raid> lol
>> [12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
>> [12:09] <evul> i dun know
>> [12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
>> [12:10] <evul> so you are something different
>> [12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
>> [12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
>> [12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
>> [12:17] <Raid> No.
>> [12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
>> [12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
>> [12:17] <evul> ahh
>> [12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
>> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
>> [12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
>> [12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his lameass
>> [12:18] <evul> one of those
>> [12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
>> [12:18] <Raid> yep
>> [12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
>> him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
>> [12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
>> [12:19] <evul> lol
>> [12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
>> [12:19] <evul> #hhi
>> [12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
>> various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to
>> be featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
>> [12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
>> [12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
>> [12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
>> [12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
>> [12:20] * evul misses the girl
>> [12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
>> [12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
>> [12:20] <evul> yeah
>> [12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
>> [12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
>> [12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
>> [12:21] <evul> got
>> [12:21] <evul> aye
>> [12:21] <evul> i bet
>> [12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
>> she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
>> won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
>> <evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
>> [12:22] <Raid> yep
>> [12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
>> [12:23] <Raid> lol
>> [12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
>> [12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
>> [12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
>> [12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
>> [12:24] <Raid> lol
>> [12:24] <evul> that's funny
>> [12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
>> [12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
>> but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25]
>> <Raid> all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe
>> [12:26] <evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
>> [12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
>> [12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
>> [12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
>> [12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
>> [12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
>> [12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
>> [12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
>> [12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
>> [12:30] <evul> ohh
>> [12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
>> [12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman
>
> You asked if he has a picture. He did. Whether he does anymore or not, I
> don't know. But he knows I'm a woman.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/gp/8438478@N08/4S4359
>
>> [12:31] <evul> lol
>> [12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
>> [12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
>> [12:32] <evul> lol
>> [12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
>> [12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off.
>> [12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is
>> really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
>> completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults
>> on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping
>> Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
>> [12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
>> [12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
>> [12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name
>
> No it isn't. Truly.
>
>> [12:33] <Raid> lol
>> [12:33] <evul> no doubt about it
>
> That's just nonsense. He's not Don Clark. He's not aboriginal. He's not
> gay.
>
> But it was a great troll.
>
>> [12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
>> [12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
>> [12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
>> [12:34] <Raid> hahahahah
>>
>> Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
>> claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself.
>
> I never claimed to know the person you had the above conversation with,
> Dustin, so I don't know what the hell you think you're doing.
>
>> I have
>> just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*
>
><shakes head> What you have is moron credit--if "credit" is really the
> appropriate word.
>
I don't think evul reads ahm much anymore. You should just hop on exilenet
and have real time flamewars with raid.

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[Dustin Cook]

"Sugien" <paulbryantsr@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ididnbBwG-CGfszanZ2dnUVZ_sOrnZ2d@adelphia.com:

> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns99F994A84621EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121.. .
>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:fis0b9$g3r$1@news.datemas.de:
>>
>>> 4Q wrote:
>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>>>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>>>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>>>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a
>>>>>> tool for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8
>>>>>> years ago 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't
>>>>>> learned assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3
>>>>>> years developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>>>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based
>>>>>> malware removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000
>>>>>> malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to
>>>>>> write such a tool certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
>>>> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
>>>> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
>>>> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
>>>> the head. *grin*
>>>
>>> Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.
>>
>> You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase
>> (pun!) had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:
>>
>> "For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
>> helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
>> his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
>> helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."
>>
>> I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today... Aside from going after
>> kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to
>> do with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.
>>
>> For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you; and he's
>> one of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
>> Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...
>>
>> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
>> what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
>> [12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
>> [12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
>> hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
>> [12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
>> [12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
>> [12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
>> [12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
>> I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n
>> tho, I don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
>> [12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
>> [12:06] <evul> cd's?
>> [12:06] <Raid> and dvds
>> [12:06] <evul> lol
>> [12:07] <evul> hell no
>> [12:07] <evul> you can do that
>> [12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
>> [12:07] <evul> i was into warez
>> [12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
>> [12:07] <Raid> hahah
>> [12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here
>> to attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
>> [12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
>> [12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
>> [12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
>> [12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
>> [12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
>> [12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
>> [12:08] <Raid> lol
>> [12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
>> [12:09] <evul> i dun know
>> [12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
>> [12:10] <evul> so you are something different
>> [12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
>> [12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
>> [12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
>> [12:17] <Raid> No.
>> [12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
>> [12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on.
>> [12:17] <evul> ahh
>> [12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
>> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
>> [12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
>> [12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his
>> lameass [12:18] <evul> one of those
>> [12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
>> [12:18] <Raid> yep
>> [12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
>> him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
>> [12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
>> [12:19] <evul> lol
>> [12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
>> [12:19] <evul> #hhi
>> [12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
>> various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to
>> be featured. [12:20] <evul> gigas?
>> [12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
>> [12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
>> [12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
>> [12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
>> [12:20] * evul misses the girl
>> [12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
>> [12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and ****, we lost contact.
>> [12:20] <evul> yeah
>> [12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
>> [12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
>> [12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
>> [12:21] <evul> got
>> [12:21] <evul> aye
>> [12:21] <evul> i bet
>> [12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
>> she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
>> won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
>> <evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
>> [12:22] <Raid> yep
>> [12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
>> [12:23] <Raid> lol
>> [12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
>> [12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
>> [12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
>> [12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
>> [12:24] <Raid> lol
>> [12:24] <evul> that's funny
>> [12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
>> [12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
>> but the dumb ***** doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25]
>> <Raid> all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe
>> [12:26] <evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
>> [12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
>> [12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy ***** anyway.
>> [12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
>> [12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
>> [12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
>> [12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
>> [12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
>> [12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
>> [12:30] <evul> ohh
>> [12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
>> [12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman
>> [12:31] <evul> lol
>> [12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
>> [12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
>> [12:32] <evul> lol
>> [12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
>> [12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off.
>> [12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there
>> is really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
>> completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults
>> on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping
>> Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
>> [12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
>> [12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
>> [12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name
>> [12:33] <Raid> lol
>> [12:33] <evul> no doubt about it
>> [12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
>> [12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
>> [12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
>> [12:34] <Raid> hahahahah
>>
>> Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
>> claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself. I have
>> just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*
>>
>>
>>
> hey Dustin, a quick question: in the above exchange this part:
>
> 12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
>
> I don't know and maybe I am just reading this wrong; but you (Raid)
> would seem to be saying that 4Q created *your* program "bughunter"?
> and is co founder of *your* HHI group? Maybe I am just having a brain
> fart; but that's the way it reads to me.


You read it wrong. No biggie tho, Rhonda did as well. I didn't call
her a troll or whatever, Evul did.




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