US Teen (Author of Bug****) Arrested as 'Spybot Mastermind'

[4Q]

Source: http://slashdot.org/index.pl?20071130

<quote>

Joshing Fink writes:

"The Guardian has an interesting piece
on 'Dustbin', a teenager from the USA
who was the ringleader of a pirate ring,
'HHI'. The economic impact of the ring
may have totaled $9.7 billion. The
30yr old teenager was the "head of an
international spybot ring that has
infiltrated computers around the world
with their malicious software 'BugStink'
Martin Kleintjes told New Zealand radio
.... The FBI estimates more than 1m
computers have been infect with his ASIC
****!, and puts the economic losses at
more than $20 trillion dollars. Eight
people (HHI pirates) have been charged,
pleaded guilty or have been convicted.

The FBI really has been putting a
crackdown on botnets/spyware recently
and especially **** written in b'ASIC
(described as a lamer tool for people
that can't code in Assembly)

A Mrs Cook of Tennessee came forward to
tell Police and FBI that her lad was
really a nice boy, and blamed it on an
Open WiFi connection.

</quote>


I say throw the ****er in jail!

4Q

[Daito]

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.hackers.malicious.]
On 2007-11-30, 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote:
> Source: http://slashdot.org/index.pl?20071130
>
><quote>
>
> Joshing Fink writes:
>
> "The Guardian has an interesting piece
> on 'Dustbin', a teenager from the USA
> who was the ringleader of a pirate ring,
> 'HHI'. The economic impact of the ring
> may have totaled $9.7 billion. The
> 30yr old teenager was the "head of an
> international spybot ring that has
> infiltrated computers around the world
> with their malicious software 'BugStink'
> Martin Kleintjes told New Zealand radio
> ... The FBI estimates more than 1m
> computers have been infect with his ASIC
> ****!, and puts the economic losses at
> more than $20 trillion dollars. Eight
> people (HHI pirates) have been charged,
> pleaded guilty or have been convicted.
>
> The FBI really has been putting a
> crackdown on botnets/spyware recently
> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
> (described as a lamer tool for people
> that can't code in Assembly)
>
> A Mrs Cook of Tennessee came forward to
> tell Police and FBI that her lad was
> really a nice boy, and blamed it on an
> Open WiFi connection.
>
></quote>
>
>
> I say throw the ****er in jail!
>
> 4Q
>
>
LOL 30yr old teen

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[Dustin Cook]

4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:


> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
> (described as a lamer tool for people
> that can't code in Assembly)

As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool for
doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago 4Q, do
you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned assembler? Don't
kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years developing a DOS (basically,
doesn't require windows to be operational for scanning/disabling/removal
purposes) based malware removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000
malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write
such a tool certainly proves I do know assembler.

I don't quiet understand why you want to debate one's choice in tools
anyway. It's as boring as the pascal vs c fights done long ago on
fidonet. It wasn't useful then either, People will write in whatever
languages they please. It's the end result that matters to the masses,
not whether or not it's pure assembler.




> I say throw the ****er in jail!



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[Me]

On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:45:13 GMT, Dustin Cook
<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

>I don't quiet understand why you want to debate one's choice in tools
>anyway. It's as boring as the pascal vs c fights done long ago on
>fidonet. It wasn't useful then either, People will write in whatever
>languages they please. It's the end result that matters to the masses,
>not whether or not it's pure assembler.

That seems so flaming obvious that it amazes me that someone has to
remind the pseudo code snobs of it now and again. I say pseudo code
snobs, because it's really not snobbery... it's insecurity. On
occasion I write assembler. I have on occasions used ASIC, but I write
most things I code in plain old VB6... whatever accomplishes the end
result I want in the manner that I'd like it accomplished. Honestly,
if all you've got to do is critique my choice of language for my apps
(which work), you really need to get a job... or a hobby.... or both,
and put your energy towards something that might have some impact on
the life - that you need to get. :-)

Oh, back on subject of the thread, as far as I'm concerned, execute
the weasel. Botnets are responsible for most spam these days, and in
my not so humble opinion, all spammers should be removed from the gene
pool, sociopathic scum that they are.

[Sugien]

"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99F8E8E69BBB0HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121.. .
> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>> that can't code in Assembly)
>
> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool for
> doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago 4Q, do
> you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned assembler? Don't
> kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years developing a DOS (basically,
> doesn't require windows to be operational for scanning/disabling/removal
> purposes) based malware removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000
> malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write
> such a tool certainly proves I do know assembler.
>
> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate one's choice in tools
> anyway. It's as boring as the pascal vs c fights done long ago on


I agree; because I can cobble together code from snippets of just about any
language. What ole QQQQ doesn't understand is that how or what you use to
make something isn't as important as how well it words. In my case, I only
have to understand what the code does and I don't fill my brain with
re-inventing the wheel type stuff when there are code libraries out there
that are FREE for the taking.
Shoot even speed of execution now days isn't near as important as it
once was what with multiple Ghz CPU's and the likes. I dare say that a
million line basic code will run faster on today's machines then what a
thousand line ASM did on an old 286Hhz machine back in the day

> fidonet. It wasn't useful then either, People will write in whatever
> languages they please. It's the end result that matters to the masses,
> not whether or not it's pure assembler.
>
>
>
>

--
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ignorance or apathy?

A. I don't know and I couldn't care less!

[Sugien]

"Me" <no-address_for_spammers@no-address.com> wrote in message
news:k2p1l3li51kij6233vdpf99t6mikrkfelb@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:45:13 GMT, Dustin Cook
> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>I don't quiet understand why you want to debate one's choice in tools
>>anyway. It's as boring as the pascal vs c fights done long ago on
>>fidonet. It wasn't useful then either, People will write in whatever
>>languages they please. It's the end result that matters to the masses,
>>not whether or not it's pure assembler.
>
> That seems so flaming obvious that it amazes me that someone has to
> remind the pseudo code snobs of it now and again. I say pseudo code
> snobs, because it's really not snobbery... it's insecurity. On
> occasion I write assembler. I have on occasions used ASIC, but I write
> most things I code in plain old VB6... whatever accomplishes the end
> result I want in the manner that I'd like it accomplished. Honestly,
> if all you've got to do is critique my choice of language for my apps
> (which work), you really need to get a job... or a hobby.... or both,
> and put your energy towards something that might have some impact on
> the life - that you need to get. :-)
>
> Oh, back on subject of the thread, as far as I'm concerned, execute
> the weasel. Botnets are responsible for most spam these days, and in
> my not so humble opinion, all spammers should be removed from the gene
> pool, sociopathic scum that they are.

If spammers aren't careful they may just be cutting off their noses to spite
their face; because they may force the countries of the world to start
enforcing some sort of an internet spam law. Or worse yet make everyone
that uses the internet to have an ID number in short taking ALL anonymity
out of the picture.


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\}

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>> that can't code in Assembly)
>
> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years developing
> a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be operational for
> scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware removal tool that
> currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers,
> etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool certainly proves I do
> know assembler.
>
> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate

You don't understand it's not a debate.

It's comedy. And you're the brunt of the joke. If you were adult, you'd
take it with good humor. Unfortunately, there's all too much truth in
what is written about you, so you go off like a confused and angry teen.

--
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as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
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[4Q]

Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> Dustin Cook wrote:
> > 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
> > 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
> >
> >
> >> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
> >> (described as a lamer tool for people
> >> that can't code in Assembly)
> >
> > As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
> > concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
> > for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
> > 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
> > assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years developing
> > a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be operational for
> > scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware removal tool that
> > currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers,
> > etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool certainly proves I do
> > know assembler.
> >
> > I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>
> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>

True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
to think of it more as a comedy baseball
bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
the head. *grin*

> It's comedy. And you're the brunt of the joke. If you were adult, you'd

Ah that's a bit cruel to the 30yr old
teeniebopper in his Harry Potter themed
wizards dungeon basement. He did
actually say (only in AHM group)
"He does have a sense of humour..."

> take it with good humor. Unfortunately, there's all too much truth in
> what is written about you, so you go off like a confused and angry teen.
>

*hehe* Did you like the bit about his
mom blaming it all his Open WiFi? That
Open WiFi of his has got a lot to
answer for...

Btw, I know this is from some time ago
but what is the story of Dustbin
offering you all his life savings
(a couple hundred dollars), so you
wouldn't go to the fed's over his
Open WiFi ALT.SEX posting?


4Q
p.s. I've been doing some Camtasia
hacking *hehehe*. Dustbin is not going
to like it! *HAHAHA*

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

4Q wrote:
> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>>> 00fd43e1af57@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>> and especially **** written in b'ASIC
>>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>>
>>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
>>> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
>>> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
>>> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years
>>> developing a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be
>>> operational for scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware
>>> removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos,
>>> trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool
>>> certainly proves I do know assembler.
>>>
>>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>>
>> You don't understand it's not a debate.
>>
>
> True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
> slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
> to think of it more as a comedy baseball
> bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
> the head. *grin*

Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.

>> It's comedy. And you're the brunt of the joke. If you were adult,
>> you'd
>
> Ah that's a bit cruel to the 30yr old
> teeniebopper in his Harry Potter themed
> wizards dungeon basement. He did
> actually say (only in AHM group)
> "He does have a sense of humour..."

<snicker>

>> take it with good humor. Unfortunately, there's all too much truth in
>> what is written about you, so you go off like a confused and angry
>> teen.
>>
>
> *hehe* Did you like the bit about his
> mom blaming it all his Open WiFi? That
> Open WiFi of his has got a lot to
> answer for...

That had me howling.

> Btw, I know this is from some time ago
> but what is the story of Dustbin
> offering you all his life savings
> (a couple hundred dollars), so you
> wouldn't go to the fed's over his
> Open WiFi ALT.SEX posting?

I had to reread the emails. Made me laugh.

While I was in Texas, he sent me a really weird email containing a post
he wanted me to make on his behalf (in reply to one of mine, I think).
Either Google or his nntp server was down, and he couldn't post. I
ignored the email, so I suppose when he figured he was dead in the bozo
bin, he felt it was necessary to engage an intermediary to intercede
with me.

Anyway, his story to the intermediary was that "someone" at the LAN
party made the alt.sex post, and in accordance with the party rules,
that "someone" was fined $300 for doing so. (This totally ignores the
fact that the alleged poster was using one of Dustin's email addresses
to post information only Dustin possessed.) According to what Dustin
told the intermediary, he was willing to "send some of the fine money to
[me] if [I'd] like."

I declined the offer. I didn't want his money, and I'd already been in
contact with the FBI. What Dustin still fails to comprehend is that he
endangered both my young adult daughter and my 99-year old grandmother
when he made that post. Not only was I concerned for their safety in my
absence, I was also concerned about the precarious legal position he put
me in: If one has knowledge of a crime that may be committed and fails
to report it and the crime subsequently occurs, one can be prosecuted
right along with the perpetrator.

> 4Q
> p.s. I've been doing some Camtasia
> hacking *hehehe*. Dustbin is not going
> to like it! *HAHAHA*

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
nimue@databasix.com

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle