Keylogger Undetectable

[Laurence]

I downloaded the trial version of Dataview by Amesico.
It is a commercial keyloger.

I installed it and it is working, but
I have found no way to detect it.

I ran numerous anti-spyware programs, nothing.
I ran numerous rootkit detectors (including Ice Sword),
nothing.

I ran startupcop by pc magainze, it wasn't listed there.
I ran task power by pc magazine, it wasn't listed under
services or drivers.

I looked in msconfig, it wasn't there either.

By reading the readme that came with it. I discovered the
file that does this - iks.sys.

How can one detect such a program, it seems this one
and possible others, are completely stealthed.

Thanks
Laurence

[Gaz]

"Laurence" <LSomething@Something.com> wrote in message
newsNL1j.2877$fl7.2035@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>I downloaded the trial version of Dataview by Amesico.
> It is a commercial keyloger.
>
> I installed it and it is working, but
> I have found no way to detect it.
>
> I ran numerous anti-spyware programs, nothing.
> I ran numerous rootkit detectors (including Ice Sword),
> nothing.
>
> I ran startupcop by pc magainze, it wasn't listed there.
> I ran task power by pc magazine, it wasn't listed under
> services or drivers.
>
> I looked in msconfig, it wasn't there either.
>
> By reading the readme that came with it. I discovered the
> file that does this - iks.sys.
>
> How can one detect such a program, it seems this one
> and possible others, are completely stealthed.
>
> Thanks
> Laurence

If they can do it, so can the spyware/adware vermin

[Maximus the Mad]

Laurence <LSomething@Something.com> after much thought,came up with
this jewel in newsNL1j.2877$fl7.2035@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net:

> I downloaded the trial version of Dataview by Amesico.
> It is a commercial keyloger.
>
> I installed it and it is working, but
> I have found no way to detect it.
>
> I ran numerous anti-spyware programs, nothing.
> I ran numerous rootkit detectors (including Ice Sword),
> nothing.
>
> I ran startupcop by pc magainze, it wasn't listed there.
> I ran task power by pc magazine, it wasn't listed under
> services or drivers.
>
> I looked in msconfig, it wasn't there either.
>
> By reading the readme that came with it. I discovered the
> file that does this - iks.sys.
>
> How can one detect such a program, it seems this one
> and possible others, are completely stealthed.
>
please list the programs that you used to try to detect the
keylogger.
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[Ari]

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:12:27 -0800, Laurence wrote:

> How can one detect such a program, it seems this one
> and possible others, are completely stealthed.

Wait until they stick one between your keyboard and PS2 port.

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"Dante Alighieri" <Michel.angelo@heavens.gate> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:12:27 -0800, Laurence <LSomething@Something.com>
> wrote:
>
> :-) I downloaded the trial version of Dataview by Amesico.
> :-) It is a commercial keyloger.
> :-)
> :-) I installed it and it is working, but
> :-) I have found no way to detect it.
> :-)
> :-) I ran numerous anti-spyware programs, nothing.
> :-) I ran numerous rootkit detectors (including Ice Sword),
> :-) nothing.
> :-)
> :-) I ran startupcop by pc magainze, it wasn't listed there.
> :-) I ran task power by pc magazine, it wasn't listed under
> :-) services or drivers.
> :-)
> :-) I looked in msconfig, it wasn't there either.
> :-)
> :-) By reading the readme that came with it. I discovered the
> :-) file that does this - iks.sys.
> :-)
> :-) How can one detect such a program, it seems this one
> :-) and possible others, are completely stealthed.
> :-)
> :-) Thanks
> :-) Laurence
> :-)
>
> Where is Dataviewer? Where is Amesico?
> several different searches for Amesico Dataviewer
> turned up only a question regarding it as was posted here
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> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> FYI
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> TechSupport Q&A advises everyone of this fact:
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> This information will be used for tracking purposes only.
> User information will not be sold or used for spamming purposes.
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> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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> Our home office controls our workplace computers and terminals.
> They use good protection wares.
> Employees going to myspace, myspace took 5 tries
> but their bot broke through the home office installed firewall
> and other protection wares.
> I installed a free keylogger and advised clerks to cease
> personal use and advised them I was monitoring them.
> All goes well but after a month the free logger quits each
> time a particular clerk signs on. I install a second, paid for,
> keylogger that has more features to detect if the clerk is the
> one playing games. No, home office was monitoring that
> clerk only. I apply a file hiding prog. The free keylogger in a
> M$ attributes hidden folder disappears. I cannot find it or unhide it.
> It keeps running, however, but I deinstall and reinstall anyhow.
> I make it findable to me and rehide it.
> The paid prog extra features see the free keylogger prog. The free
> logger does not pick up running progs but does pick the keystrokes.
> Passwords for access: I copy and paste, not revealed by keystrokes.
> Paid prog feature to hide all does just that, home office wares do not
> see the paid key logger, but Avira picks it up as a key logger, however.
> Avira GmbH
> D-88069 Tettnang, Lindauer Strasse 21, Deutschland
> http://www.free-av.com , Copyright Avira GmbH. All rights reserved.
>
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> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> http://www.anti-keyloggers.com.
>
>
> http://www.spyany.com/program/spykiller_list.html
> Spykiller claims it can detect and remove Amesico Invisible Keylogger
>
> Likewise for:
> http://www.securemost.com/antisp/spy_list.htm
> Maxion Spy-Killer
>
> Spysweeper found it there and named the file and software
> http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?p=1435938
>
>
> Keylogger Remover
> Recommended Download.
> www.PCTools.com
> Follow the link and you are advised cost of:
> Spyware Doctor Full Version $29.95.
>
>
> FREE DOWNLOAD SHAREWARE
> [actually is TRIALWARE as the seller notes below - see Limitations]
> Keylogger Stopper 2
> Filesize: 665K
> License: Shareware
> Price: $16
> Limitations: -day trial
> OS: WinNT 4.x, 2000, XP, 2003
> Requirements: No special requirements
> Last updated: 2005-02-25
> Publisher: Citisoft Development CT More Products
> Homepage: http://www.chithai.com
>
> Some of these links offer wares for protecting your exe files.
> Settable time limits like for trial ware, etc.
> Settable for single machine use, etc.
>
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>
> FREE FREEWARE
>
> OpenOffice.org 2.3.0
> OpenOffice.org
> Copyright 2000-2007 Sun Microsystems Inc.
> developed by the community
>
>
> Firefox version 2.0.0.9
> http://en-US.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
> copyright 1998-2007 by the contributors
> Firefox and Firefox logos are trademarks of Mozilla Foundation
> Some trademark rights used under license from the Charlton Co.
>
> Originally called godzilla, but the motion picture company
> owner of Godzilla said, No, godzilla is ours.
> Therefore, godzilla became mozilla.
> Cute name that didn't fly so mozilla released Firefox.
> Firefox had its own problems and apparently never contested
> or never took the effort to own its own name.
>
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> Now the question is - will my reader post this message?
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> Dante
>
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"Dante Alighieri" <Michel.angelo@heavens.gate> wrote in message
news:irekk31u56unf2ms2fan739uem9c9qlodr@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:12:27 -0800, Laurence <LSomething@Something.com>
> wrote:
>
> :-) I downloaded the trial version of Dataview by Amesico.
> :-) It is a commercial keyloger.
> :-)
> :-) I installed it and it is working, but
> :-) I have found no way to detect it.
> :-)
> :-) I ran numerous anti-spyware programs, nothing.
> :-) I ran numerous rootkit detectors (including Ice Sword),
> :-) nothing.
> :-)
> :-) I ran startupcop by pc magainze, it wasn't listed there.
> :-) I ran task power by pc magazine, it wasn't listed under
> :-) services or drivers.
> :-)
> :-) I looked in msconfig, it wasn't there either.
> :-)
> :-) By reading the readme that came with it. I discovered the
> :-) file that does this - iks.sys.
> :-)
> :-) How can one detect such a program, it seems this one
> :-) and possible others, are completely stealthed.
> :-)
> :-) Thanks
> :-) Laurence
> :-)
>
> Where is Dataviewer? Where is Amesico?
> several different searches for Amesico Dataviewer
> turned up only a question regarding it as was posted here
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> FYI
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> TechSupport Q&A advises everyone of this fact:
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> This information will be used for tracking purposes only.
> User information will not be sold or used for spamming purposes.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> Our home office controls our workplace computers and terminals.
> They use good protection wares.
> Employees going to myspace, myspace took 5 tries
> but their bot broke through the home office installed firewall
> and other protection wares.
> I installed a free keylogger and advised clerks to cease
> personal use and advised them I was monitoring them.
> All goes well but after a month the free logger quits each
> time a particular clerk signs on. I install a second, paid for,
> keylogger that has more features to detect if the clerk is the
> one playing games. No, home office was monitoring that
> clerk only. I apply a file hiding prog. The free keylogger in a
> M$ attributes hidden folder disappears. I cannot find it or unhide it.
> It keeps running, however, but I deinstall and reinstall anyhow.
> I make it findable to me and rehide it.
> The paid prog extra features see the free keylogger prog. The free
> logger does not pick up running progs but does pick the keystrokes.
> Passwords for access: I copy and paste, not revealed by keystrokes.
> Paid prog feature to hide all does just that, home office wares do not
> see the paid key logger, but Avira picks it up as a key logger, however.
> Avira GmbH
> D-88069 Tettnang, Lindauer Strasse 21, Deutschland
> http://www.free-av.com , Copyright Avira GmbH. All rights reserved.
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> http://www.anti-keyloggers.com.
>
>
> http://www.spyany.com/program/spykiller_list.html
> Spykiller claims it can detect and remove Amesico Invisible Keylogger
>
> Likewise for:
> http://www.securemost.com/antisp/spy_list.htm
> Maxion Spy-Killer
>
> Spysweeper found it there and named the file and software
> http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?p=1435938
>
>
> Keylogger Remover
> Recommended Download.
> www.PCTools.com
> Follow the link and you are advised cost of:
> Spyware Doctor Full Version $29.95.
>
>
> FREE DOWNLOAD SHAREWARE
> [actually is TRIALWARE as the seller notes below - see Limitations]
> Keylogger Stopper 2
> Filesize: 665K
> License: Shareware
> Price: $16
> Limitations: -day trial
> OS: WinNT 4.x, 2000, XP, 2003
> Requirements: No special requirements
> Last updated: 2005-02-25
> Publisher: Citisoft Development CT More Products
> Homepage: http://www.chithai.com
>
> Some of these links offer wares for protecting your exe files.
> Settable time limits like for trial ware, etc.
> Settable for single machine use, etc.
>
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>
> FREE FREEWARE
>
> OpenOffice.org 2.3.0
> OpenOffice.org
> Copyright 2000-2007 Sun Microsystems Inc.
> developed by the community
>
>
> Firefox version 2.0.0.9
> http://en-US.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
> copyright 1998-2007 by the contributors
> Firefox and Firefox logos are trademarks of Mozilla Foundation
> Some trademark rights used under license from the Charlton Co.
>
> Originally called godzilla, but the motion picture company
> owner of Godzilla said, No, godzilla is ours.
> Therefore, godzilla became mozilla.
> Cute name that didn't fly so mozilla released Firefox.
> Firefox had its own problems and apparently never contested
> or never took the effort to own its own name.
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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> Now the question is - will my reader post this message?
>
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> Dante
>
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