Nirodh Cook wrote:
> 4Q <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in
> news:b6cce80d-d3f6-4bb7-94ff-43ac5f4582b0@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Nirodh Cook wrote:
> >> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:5qk55rF10dtqbU2@mid.individual.net:
> >>
> >> > 4Q wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >
> >> Rhonda, as you kiss his asscheeks, just read about what another of
> >> his own peers had to say:
> >>
> >
> > How is an anonymous poster a peer? Ah
> > yes becuase we don't know anything about
> > him/her or their identity... A bit
> > anonymous like me really.
>
> Oh, cmon 4Q. Are you going to try and deny the events he mentioned? After
> all this time?

Dustbin, it's like a non-event you have
grabbed onto, an anecdotal tale that
never happened. So if you are going to
hang your hat on this wonderful made up tale of trivial then provide
the logs.
But as you have invested so much mental
efforts into making it fit your cause,
I'll play along.

Firstly I got along with Rod and
Mandragore. They were probably the
most interesting and entertaining chaps
that ever frequented the VX channels.
Neither one of them was a flyby bull****
merchant with little to no knowledge or
ability in the Virus/Anti-Virus area.

Many of the ****nuts I trashed in the
channels were loudmouth, egotistical
cretins with next to no coding ability.
(these were people like you Dustbin (aka
Raid/[SPAM] ) a blowhard with the most
limited ability to code, yet tried his
hardest to make it look like he was the
big I-AM important Virus writer *very
laughable*).

The VX scene split, because of people
like you running your mouth all the time
attention seeking and turning an
underground coding scene into the joke blabber mouth chit-chat channel
it
became. Meanwhile the serious coders
mostly Non-Americans decided to setup
another channel #VXERS where stupidity
like Kickban Kix0rball **** wouldn't be
the main reason for joining a channel.

You'll note that all the best 'coders'
left #VIRUS and joined #VXERS and left
just the lamers behind. These lamers were
mainly the kind of ****s that coded
prependers and overwriters in BASIC
That's Raid/[SPAM] and Gigabyte, two of
the worst attention seeking offenders
ever to slime onto underground coding
scene.

In the beginning it was great over in
#VXERS we had all the serious talented
Assembly coders (including the guys that
enjoyed writing creatively with the high
level languages like VBS,VB,JAVA etc) <--
not to be confused with the lamers that
could only code prependers/overwriters
no matter what language they choose,
stuck in chit-chat kix0rball limboland
'#VIRUS'

Unfortunately after a few months there
was a tendancy for cross channel drifting
and the likes of Gato ( great ASM coder),
Mister Sandman (top elite ASM coder)
who missed some of the chit-chat fun.
And of course the fact that they
couldn't bare missing old friends that
didn't frequent any regular VX channels
and used #VIRUS as a hookup point.

I was quite happy to lose my OPS in
#VIRUS after the VX scene split skism.
But like Gato and MrSandman I still had
friends stuck in limboland, the fact was
people like Knowdeth and Roadkil would
never leave their old home #VIRUS and I
still enjoyed talking to those guys, so
even *I* drifted between channels.

When Mister Sandman decided to leave the VX scene, T-2000 killed
himself and Gato
lost interest I didn't see much point in
hanging around 24/7 myself. So after
that time to move on the only contact I
had with IRC VX was fleeting and brief.

Now let's get back to your anecdotal
tale that you've invested so much energy.
Back in #VXERS Mandragore had 499 level
OPS and was effectively channel manager.
Rodzilla (aka Rod the AV man) had level
200 like many of the regulars.
Mandragore and Rod had some kind of
falling out (I still do not know what
it was about, but it was likely just a
tiff). Mandra placed a 499 level ban on
Rod and K/B'd him out of the channel,
which would really have been considered
an abuse of manager status according the
the founding fathers of #VXERS. Given
that I was friends of both these fellas
I asked Mandra if he would lift the ban
on Rod, but he wouldn't and didn't give
me much of an explanation why. Now that
doesn't sound like 'weeping' or 'whining'
("weeps" according to the Anon posters)
to me. It was a straight forward request,
one reasonable person to another.
So it look like you have totally ****ed
up your anecdotal tale, wrong channel
and wrong person with the OPS problem.

With regards to #VIRUS channel in later
days when I no longer frequented IRC, Mandragore, KD, RK etc would
always give
me OPS when I visited because I always
got on with these guys. They never sucked
'n' blowed like the lamer Raid/[SPAM]
always did.

Sorry to burst your ****ed up fantasy
of what really happened, but there ya
go I'm a ******* *places pin into
retard Dustbin's balloon*


<snip>

> > What did you have in #ASM? Yeah "0"
> > because you can't code in Assembly.
>
> What does ASM have to do with another of your peers telling the truth
> about you for a change? Not a damn

Well as I've just pointed out to you
at great length you retarded nump, you
have got 'the truth' on this little
tale all ****ed up. It is also likely
the mystery man is not my peer, just
someone that hanged around in the
****ed up chit-chat lamer zone gullible
enough to believe that you 'Raid/[SPAM]'
with your **** prepender/overwriter
nuggets of lamer bASIC was the pinnacle
of virus writing excellence. So really
he'll be your peer.

>thing, it's a rhetorical question. I
> hardly went in #asm 4q, would why I need/deserve ops?
>

You didn't go because you aren't an
Assembly coder, you never have been and
you never will be. It's another one of
your bull**** lies hoodwinking the
ignorant that you have ASM coding skills
which you don't posses.


> Besides, if you idle long enough in various channels and contribute to
> conversations, you'll eventually earn your ops anyway; You don't have to
> beg for them.
>
> > Btw speaking of ASM, here is the code
> > I posted for you several months ago,
> > which proves you talk **** when you
> > make statements like "he doesn't know
> > what a scanner is" So I've removed all
>
> Proves nothing in fact. You didn't know how BugHunter worked, period. No
> way to spin that fact. So I was right when I said you don't know what a
> scanner is in BugHunter's case, string scanner... my ass.
>

Your smokescreen handwaving bull****
about Bug**** isn't working dickhead.
You project this so called "fact" about
my knowledge of Bug****'s inner/outer workings as your main Exhibit A
and then
make the false assumption I don't know
or understand what a checksum scanner is.
You are mixing two very seperate events
into one "fact" and running away with
yourself making very foolish statements.

For the record (so that any resonable
minded person can dismiss your constant
sillyness)

1) I had never looked at you cobbled
together Bug****, prior to your remarks
that I didn't know how it worked. So
everytime you repeat this nonsense
it proves you are a lying idiot.

2) When I did eventually look at your
crap, several months later. I laughed
my bollocks off when I realized you
couldn't even code the ****ing thing
yourself, you had to steal/borrow/use
other peoples utilities.

3) I mocked up a demo clone of Bug****
in b'ASIC and explained to the
uninitiated how easy it was to knock up
such an utter trivial checksum scanner
within a matter of minutes.

http://fourq.host.sk <-- here it is.


4) I knew the Bug**** crap you wrote
was more of the same old ****E b'ASIC,
the only limited coding level you have.
So it was not worth my while to run your
****E through a disassembler, just to
prove what every ****ing body in the
world knows about your **** code, i.e.
it's more ****.

5) You've jumped up and down like a tard
because I made a snide remark about your
"16bit string scanner". I didn't present
it as a fact, with a detailed analysis
of a reverse engineering task. It was
the first off-the-cuff remark to set the
scene for people to know that you had yet
again wrote another cobbled together
16bit DOS piece of crap. (we've seen
your history of ****e code).

6) You continue to try and force
seperate events into a little web of
lies. You've linked the fact I made a
snide remark about 'the crap' into a
statement that I don't know how
checksum scanners work, these events
are not related despite how hard you
spin it.

7) You claimed I was a "non-coder"
You've been proved wrong. I've been
coding in Assembler for over 20 years.
I've worked in the programming and
IT industry all my adult life. And
unlike you, I went down the Higher Education route to University, not
some
poxy vocational weekend training course
in soldering wires together.

8) You are totally bankrupt on your
continual spinning bull****, it's time
you stopped digging yourself a deeper
hole looking more stupid.


4Q

p.s. It's nice to see you have got
so many arguments going on at the same
time with so many people across
different groups... Don't you think
this says a lot about your defective
personality?