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    Anonymous Guest

    Fw: PGP encryption used by terrorists - the ultimate spyware?


    From: Daniel <babylon@usa>

    On Mon 15 Oct 2007 dank <dank@nugget.org> wrote:
    >George Orwell wrote...
    >> Al-Qaeda employs PGP encryption to send messages to and fro. CARNIVORE is
    >> totally ineffective to intercepting these communications. How long will it
    >> take the government to close this critical loophole in Homeland Security's
    >> ability to spy on our enemies?
    >>
    >> PGP must be outlawed.

    >
    >The U.S. government wrote PGP in an attempt to trick people who have stuff
    >to hide into using it and thus draw attention to their secrets.


    -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

    I've always believed that, actually. The rule of thumb seems to be
    that everything the government says is a lie. If they say they can
    do something, generally, they can't. Conversely, if they say they
    can't do something, generally, they can. I know, there are always
    extremely rare exceptions, but they are damned far and few between.
    The other golden rule of government is they either buy them off or
    kill them off. E.g., C.I.A. buddy Usama Bin Laden. Apparently he's
    still alive. So what's that tell you? It tells me that UBL is more
    useful alive than dead, lest he would *assuredly* be dead already.

    The only time I believe government is when they say they are going
    to do something extremely diabolical, evil, wicked, mean and nasty.
    E.g., "We are going to invade Iran, because our corporate masters
    require our military muscle to seize control over Iran's vast oil
    reserves." Blood for oil. That I definitely believe they shall do,
    and they'll have their government propaganda "ministry of truth"
    media FNC, CNN, NYT, ad nauseam, cram it down the unwary public's
    collective throat. The moronic public buys whatever Uncle Sam is
    selling without question. The American public truly are imbeciles!

    Their economy runs on oil. Therefore, they shall *HAVE* their oil,
    by hook or by crook. Millions, billions dead? It doesn't matter to
    them at all. They will stop at nothing to achieve their evil ends,
    even Armageddon the global games of Slaughter. Those days approach,
    which is ironic, poetic justice, etc. I look forward to those days.

    Meanwhile, "We need the poor Mexican immigrant slave-labor to work
    for chinaman's wages, because we need to bankrupt the middle-class
    and put them all out of a job." Yes, you can take that to the bank!
    And "Let's outsource as many jobs as we can overseas to third-world
    ****holes, where $10 a day is considered millionaire wages. That'll
    help bankrupt what little remains of the middle-class." Yes, indeed,
    their fractional reserve banking shellgames are strictly for profit.
    It's always about profit, and always at the expense of serfdom. One
    nation by the lawyers & for the lawyers: & their corporate sponsors.
    Thank God for the Apocalypse! It's the only salvation humankind has,
    the second coming of Christ. This old world is doomed to extinction.

    *Everything* to do with ego and greed, absolute power and absolute
    control over everything and everyone of the world, they will do it,
    or they shall send many thousands of poor American grunt-troops in
    to die trying. Everything evil, that's the US Government in spades!

    Government is no different than Atheists and other self-interested
    fundamentalist fanatics. They exist for one reason, and one reason
    only: the love of money. I never believe ANYTHING they say. Period.

    In Vigilance,
    Daniel Joseph Min
    http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/


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  2. #2
    Ray Carney Guest

    Re: Fw: PGP encryption used by terrorists - the ultimate spyware?

    In article <22d5da2b0a345e2073959e269839ed3e@ecn.org>,
    Anonymous <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:

    > From: Daniel <babylon@usa>
    >
    > On Mon 15 Oct 2007 dank <dank@nugget.org> wrote:
    > >George Orwell wrote...
    > >> Al-Qaeda employs PGP encryption to send messages to and fro. CARNIVORE is
    > >>
    > >> totally ineffective to intercepting these communications. How long will it
    > >> take the government to close this critical loophole in Homeland Security's
    > >> ability to spy on our enemies?
    > >>
    > >> PGP must be outlawed.

    > >
    > >The U.S. government wrote PGP in an attempt to trick people who have stuff
    > >to hide into using it and thus draw attention to their secrets.

    >
    > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    >
    > I've always believed that, actually. The rule of thumb seems to be
    > that everything the government says is a lie. If they say they can
    > do something, generally, they can't. Conversely, if they say they
    > can't do something, generally, they can. I know, there are always
    > extremely rare exceptions, but they are damned far and few between.
    > The other golden rule of government is they either buy them off or
    > kill them off. E.g., C.I.A. buddy Usama Bin Laden. Apparently he's
    >
    > still alive. So what's that tell you? It tells me that UBL is more
    > useful alive than dead, lest he would *assuredly* be dead already.
    >
    > The only time I believe government is when they say they are going
    > to do something extremely diabolical, evil, wicked, mean and nasty.
    >
    > E.g., "We are going to invade Iran, because our corporate masters
    > require our military muscle to seize control over Iran's vast oil
    > reserves." Blood for oil. That I definitely believe they shall do,
    > and they'll have their government propaganda "ministry of truth"
    > media FNC, CNN, NYT, ad nauseam, cram it down the unwary public's
    > collective throat. The moronic public buys whatever Uncle Sam is
    > selling without question. The American public truly are imbeciles!
    >
    > Their economy runs on oil. Therefore, they shall *HAVE* their oil,
    > by hook or by crook. Millions, billions dead? It doesn't matter to
    > them at all. They will stop at nothing to achieve their evil ends,
    > even Armageddon the global games of Slaughter. Those days approach,
    > which is ironic, poetic justice, etc. I look forward to those days.
    >
    > Meanwhile, "We need the poor Mexican immigrant slave-labor to work
    > for chinaman's wages, because we need to bankrupt the middle-class
    > and put them all out of a job." Yes, you can take that to the bank!
    > And "Let's outsource as many jobs as we can overseas to third-world
    > ****holes, where $10 a day is considered millionaire wages. That'll
    > help bankrupt what little remains of the middle-class." Yes, indeed,
    > their fractional reserve banking shellgames are strictly for profit.
    > It's always about profit, and always at the expense of serfdom. One
    > nation by the lawyers & for the lawyers: & their corporate sponsors.
    > Thank God for the Apocalypse! It's the only salvation humankind has,
    >
    > the second coming of Christ. This old world is doomed to extinction.
    >
    > *Everything* to do with ego and greed, absolute power and absolute
    > control over everything and everyone of the world, they will do it,
    > or they shall send many thousands of poor American grunt-troops in
    > to die trying. Everything evil, that's the US Government in spades!
    >
    > Government is no different than Atheists and other self-interested
    > fundamentalist fanatics. They exist for one reason, and one reason
    > only: the love of money. I never believe ANYTHING they say. Period.
    >
    >
    > In Vigilance,
    > Daniel Joseph Min
    > http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
    >
    >
    > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
    > iQA/AwUBRxQoV5ljD7YrHM/nEQI5OgCfQV1bdB0sKAgqvwQDP4HBlmOz4GsAn0fv
    > R7vCVfABg95fj0cTGP+flg6J
    > =TD+y
    > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


    I use PGP and I love it. Keeps the fed out of my business.

    RC

  3. #3
    Iconoclast Guest

    Re: PGP encryption used by terrorists - the ultimate spyware?


    "Anonymous" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message
    news:22d5da2b0a345e2073959e269839ed3e@ecn.org...
    >
    > From: Daniel <babylon@usa>
    >
    > On Mon 15 Oct 2007 dank <dank@nugget.org> wrote:
    >>George Orwell wrote...
    >>> Al-Qaeda employs PGP encryption to send messages to and fro. CARNIVORE
    >>> is
    >>> totally ineffective to intercepting these communications. How long will
    >>> it
    >>> take the government to close this critical loophole in Homeland
    >>> Security's
    >>> ability to spy on our enemies?
    >>>
    >>> PGP must be outlawed.

    >>
    >>The U.S. government wrote PGP in an attempt to trick people who have stuff
    >>to hide into using it and thus draw attention to their secrets.

    >
    > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    >
    > I've always believed that, actually. The rule of thumb seems to be
    > that everything the government says is a lie. If they say they can
    > do something, generally, they can't. Conversely, if they say they
    > can't do something, generally, they can. I know, there are always
    > extremely rare exceptions, but they are damned far and few between.
    > The other golden rule of government is they either buy them off or
    > kill them off. E.g., C.I.A. buddy Usama Bin Laden. Apparently he's
    > still alive. So what's that tell you? It tells me that UBL is more
    > useful alive than dead, lest he would *assuredly* be dead already.
    >
    > The only time I believe government is when they say they are going
    > to do something extremely diabolical, evil, wicked, mean and nasty.
    > E.g., "We are going to invade Iran, because our corporate masters
    > require our military muscle to seize control over Iran's vast oil
    > reserves." Blood for oil. That I definitely believe they shall do,
    > and they'll have their government propaganda "ministry of truth"
    > media FNC, CNN, NYT, ad nauseam, cram it down the unwary public's
    > collective throat. The moronic public buys whatever Uncle Sam is
    > selling without question. The American public truly are imbeciles!
    >
    > Their economy runs on oil. Therefore, they shall *HAVE* their oil,
    > by hook or by crook. Millions, billions dead? It doesn't matter to
    > them at all. They will stop at nothing to achieve their evil ends,
    > even Armageddon the global games of Slaughter. Those days approach,
    > which is ironic, poetic justice, etc. I look forward to those days.
    >
    > Meanwhile, "We need the poor Mexican immigrant slave-labor to work
    > for chinaman's wages, because we need to bankrupt the middle-class
    > and put them all out of a job." Yes, you can take that to the bank!
    > And "Let's outsource as many jobs as we can overseas to third-world
    > ****holes, where $10 a day is considered millionaire wages. That'll
    > help bankrupt what little remains of the middle-class." Yes, indeed,
    > their fractional reserve banking shellgames are strictly for profit.
    > It's always about profit, and always at the expense of serfdom. One
    > nation by the lawyers & for the lawyers: & their corporate sponsors.
    > Thank God for the Apocalypse! It's the only salvation humankind has,
    > the second coming of Christ. This old world is doomed to extinction.
    >
    > *Everything* to do with ego and greed, absolute power and absolute
    > control over everything and everyone of the world, they will do it,
    > or they shall send many thousands of poor American grunt-troops in
    > to die trying. Everything evil, that's the US Government in spades!
    >
    > Government is no different than Atheists and other self-interested
    > fundamentalist fanatics. They exist for one reason, and one reason
    > only: the love of money. I never believe ANYTHING they say. Period.
    >
    > In Vigilance,
    > Daniel Joseph Min
    > http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
    >
    >
    > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
    > iQA/AwUBRxQoV5ljD7YrHM/nEQI5OgCfQV1bdB0sKAgqvwQDP4HBlmOz4GsAn0fv
    > R7vCVfABg95fj0cTGP+flg6J
    > =TD+y
    > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
    >


    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.



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