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  1. #11
    wng_z3r0 Guest

    Re: Unexplained high broadband traffic

    Well then congratulations for contributing to such a wonderful open source
    project. I can't seem to find your handle or email anywhere in the source,
    but that's ok; I'm sure you have a valid reason. Anyways, you seem to have
    missed the point that I was making. See, the OP could easily check the
    validity of wireshark by googling it, looking at reviews etc etc before
    actually downloading the program. Also the fact that the program is open
    source on SourceForge also helps to signify that wireshark is not malicious.
    Compare that with your distribution system.

    wng


    "pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
    news:fes6df$8ug$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    > Why are you replying to me? If you read the question it states what OS he
    > is using. BTW I am a contributor to Wireshark so you trying to be an AHole
    > backfired.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads
    > The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com,
    > David H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
    > Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell
    >
    >
    >
    > "wng_z3r0" <wng_z3r0@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    > news:8EF12E32-AA6C-4A5B-A7D0-CBEA958CF402@microsoft.com...
    >> Regardless of the nature of pcbutts, which I won't get into here, I
    >> strongly advise you NEVER to download code from an unknown entity on the
    >> internet in a scenario that pcbutts is proposing. Not only do you not
    >> have any information about pcbutts, but you could not even look at
    >> reviews from a 'trusted authority' such as perhaps CNET as for all you
    >> know, you could be receiving a unique malware file that is emailed to
    >> you. Just a suggestion on safe(r) internet habits.
    >>
    >> Anyways, specifically concerning your network traffic, try installing
    >> wireshark, and running a packet trace when the internet connection
    >> spikes:
    >> http://www.wireshark.org/
    >>
    >> As it appears you have a malware infestation on your computer, there is a
    >> possibility that this malware is leeching private information in the
    >> computer (such as passwords etc) back to a remote server, or perhaps the
    >> computer is used as a 'bot'. In either case, you really should disconnect
    >> the computer from the internet until the computer is cleaned. Not doing
    >> so puts your computer at more risk and most likely others as well.
    >>
    >> To begin cleaning your computer, can you please tell me what version of
    >> windows you are running?
    >>
    >> wng
    >>
    >>
    >> "pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
    >> news:fes0ee$phg$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    >>> Go to my website http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads use the email link at
    >>> the bottom, put "Running Now" in the subject line and email me. I will
    >>> send you my more extensive diagnostic tool, it works better than HJT,
    >>> with instructions on how to use it.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>> Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads
    >>> The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com,
    >>> David H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
    >>> Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Jim" <koehler@btinternet.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:1192286950.230976.246240@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
    >>>>A real challenge to all spyware and malware experts.
    >>>>
    >>>> Please excuse my bad manners in publishing this article in two
    >>>> newsgroups simultaneously. I am not sure which one is most likely to
    >>>> provide help in solving my problem.
    >>>>
    >>>> If there is another newsgroup that in which I should post this article
    >>>> please let me know.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> The problem that I have is driving me mad!
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> The problem is that my broadband traffic is at times extremely high
    >>>> for completely unexplained reasons.
    >>>>
    >>>> This is indicated by (1) the daily log kept by my ISP and (2) more
    >>>> visibly by the icon in the lower right-hand corner on my screen that
    >>>> consists of the two little monitor symbols. It these symbols indicate
    >>>> broadband activity by lighting up in light blue - one for up traffic
    >>>> and the other for down traffic.
    >>>>
    >>>> The problem has been around on and off for three months now.
    >>>>
    >>>> Environment: Windows XP SP2, Symantec Norton 360, Namesco (ISP) and Ad-
    >>>> Aware SE Personal. The last of these I run only on demand - usually
    >>>> once a day.
    >>>>
    >>>> When the problem is occurring the daily ISP log shows 4 or 5 times
    >>>> normal megabytes per day and the monitor symbols are lit up all the
    >>>> time.
    >>>>
    >>>> Normally the log and the monitor symbols show low broadband activity.
    >>>> I have been a fairly light user of the internet. No movie downloads,
    >>>> etc. Just emails and web page accesses.
    >>>>
    >>>> The high activity problem has occurred in two episodes. During the
    >>>> first of these (a couple of weeks) the high traffic was more or less
    >>>> equally divided between uploading and downloading. But during the most
    >>>> recent episode (a couple of days) downloading has been very high while
    >>>> uploading was normal.
    >>>>
    >>>> My traffic has been so high that my ISP's monthly limit is 60% used
    >>>> while I am only 40% into the month. I will be charged for any excess.
    >>>> I have become so concerned that I am leaving my modem connection to my
    >>>> phone line unplugged except when I need to access the internet.
    >>>>
    >>>> Regarding the first episode: I tried PREVX. It found and removed some
    >>>> malware. It reported that it put the following items in "jail".
    >>>> zrmkxe.exe (4 KB)
    >>>> ykouzmp.exe (4 KB)
    >>>> ugstzfqp.exe (4 KB)
    >>>> tftp4904 (4 KB)
    >>>> shell64.dll (14 KB) (http://www.auditmypc.com/process/shell64.asp)
    >>>> rphekn.exe (4 KB)
    >>>> gpiawddx.exe 4 KB)
    >>>> avgmb.exe (4 KB)
    >>>>
    >>>> This cleared up the problem but PREVX and Norton 360 do not get along
    >>>> with each other - Norton 360 will not work properly unless PREVX is
    >>>> not present in the same system.
    >>>>
    >>>> I spent a considerable amount of time on the Symantec technical help
    >>>> line. Symantec finally apparently fixed the problem by activating the
    >>>> Norton 360 backup facility. Traffic dropped back down to its normal
    >>>> level for a while. I can't understand why this worked - what is the
    >>>> connection between backup and the high traffic problem?
    >>>>
    >>>> Broadband traffic went back to normal for a while but eventually the
    >>>> high traffic problem returned on several occasions. They were fixed by
    >>>> (1) installing PREVX, (2) doing a scan with it whereby it cleared out
    >>>> some malware, and (3) uninstalling PREVX - all of this while
    >>>> temporarily disabling Norton 360.
    >>>>
    >>>> As I said earlier, the second and last episode of the high traffic
    >>>> broadband problem began a few days ago. This seems to be different
    >>>> than the first episode because the high traffic is mainly downloading
    >>>> while uploading is normal.
    >>>>
    >>>> The big issue with all this is that I need to find out what spyware
    >>>> malware is causing my high traffic. Can anyone tell me how to do this.
    >>>> Is there some diagnostic software that could be of use here?
    >>>>
    >>>> Below are some items that might help diagnose my problem. All of these
    >>>> were obtained when broadband traffic was very high as indicated by the
    >>>> monitor symbols being lit up constantly.
    >>>>
    >>>> The first item is a HijackThis log file. The last two are snapshots
    >>>> are the most active processes in the Windows Task Manager process
    >>>> display.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
    >>>>
    >>>> Jim
    >>>>
    >>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    >>>> -
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>

    >
    >



  2. #12
    Far Canal Guest

    Re: Unexplained high broadband traffic

    In article <1192286950.230976.246240@i38g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
    koehler@btinternet.com says...
    > A real challenge to all spyware and malware experts.
    >
    > Please excuse my bad manners in publishing this article in two
    > newsgroups simultaneously. I am not sure which one is most likely to
    > provide help in solving my problem.
    >
    > If there is another newsgroup that in which I should post this article
    > please let me know.
    >
    >
    > The problem that I have is driving me mad!
    >



    Nothing you can't fix by formatting your hd.



  3. #13
    What's in a Name? Guest

    Re: Unexplained high broadband traffic

    "pcbutts1" after much thought,came up with this jewel:

    > No she did not. She referred him to a computer store and asked him
    > to post his question in another group. How does that fix his
    > computer. That's the kind of answer you give somebody when you
    > don't know the answer ( no disrespect intended Malke). She did
    > much more then you. All you did was start a flame war for no
    > reason. Do you really want to get into it with me?
    >

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  4. #14
    pcbutts1 Guest

    Re: Unexplained high broadband traffic

    Everything I put out is well documented and explained on my website.
    Everything is safe and tested. Because I choose not to share those links in
    these NG's is by choice. If I am as bad as everybody says I am then why no
    complaints from user of my files? Why is my site still up, why has it always
    been up. If I am a thief they why did I beat two DMCA complaints? The
    easiest way to take down any website is to file a DMCA yet my site is still
    up. Get your facts straight.

    --

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    "wng_z3r0" <wng_z3r0@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:8EF12E32-AA6C-4A5B-A7D0-CBEA958CF402@microsoft.com...
    > Regardless of the nature of pcbutts, which I won't get into here, I
    > strongly advise you NEVER to download code from an unknown entity on the
    > internet in a scenario that pcbutts is proposing. Not only do you not have
    > any information about pcbutts, but you could not even look at reviews from
    > a 'trusted authority' such as perhaps CNET as for all you know, you could
    > be receiving a unique malware file that is emailed to you. Just a
    > suggestion on safe(r) internet habits.
    >
    > Anyways, specifically concerning your network traffic, try installing
    > wireshark, and running a packet trace when the internet connection spikes:
    > http://www.wireshark.org/
    >
    > As it appears you have a malware infestation on your computer, there is a
    > possibility that this malware is leeching private information in the
    > computer (such as passwords etc) back to a remote server, or perhaps the
    > computer is used as a 'bot'. In either case, you really should disconnect
    > the computer from the internet until the computer is cleaned. Not doing so
    > puts your computer at more risk and most likely others as well.
    >
    > To begin cleaning your computer, can you please tell me what version of
    > windows you are running?
    >
    > wng
    >
    >
    > "pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
    > news:fes0ee$phg$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    >> Go to my website http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads use the email link at
    >> the bottom, put "Running Now" in the subject line and email me. I will
    >> send you my more extensive diagnostic tool, it works better than HJT,
    >> with instructions on how to use it.
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads
    >> The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com,
    >> David H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
    >> Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "Jim" <koehler@btinternet.com> wrote in message
    >> news:1192286950.230976.246240@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
    >>>A real challenge to all spyware and malware experts.
    >>>
    >>> Please excuse my bad manners in publishing this article in two
    >>> newsgroups simultaneously. I am not sure which one is most likely to
    >>> provide help in solving my problem.
    >>>
    >>> If there is another newsgroup that in which I should post this article
    >>> please let me know.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> The problem that I have is driving me mad!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> The problem is that my broadband traffic is at times extremely high
    >>> for completely unexplained reasons.
    >>>
    >>> This is indicated by (1) the daily log kept by my ISP and (2) more
    >>> visibly by the icon in the lower right-hand corner on my screen that
    >>> consists of the two little monitor symbols. It these symbols indicate
    >>> broadband activity by lighting up in light blue - one for up traffic
    >>> and the other for down traffic.
    >>>
    >>> The problem has been around on and off for three months now.
    >>>
    >>> Environment: Windows XP SP2, Symantec Norton 360, Namesco (ISP) and Ad-
    >>> Aware SE Personal. The last of these I run only on demand - usually
    >>> once a day.
    >>>
    >>> When the problem is occurring the daily ISP log shows 4 or 5 times
    >>> normal megabytes per day and the monitor symbols are lit up all the
    >>> time.
    >>>
    >>> Normally the log and the monitor symbols show low broadband activity.
    >>> I have been a fairly light user of the internet. No movie downloads,
    >>> etc. Just emails and web page accesses.
    >>>
    >>> The high activity problem has occurred in two episodes. During the
    >>> first of these (a couple of weeks) the high traffic was more or less
    >>> equally divided between uploading and downloading. But during the most
    >>> recent episode (a couple of days) downloading has been very high while
    >>> uploading was normal.
    >>>
    >>> My traffic has been so high that my ISP's monthly limit is 60% used
    >>> while I am only 40% into the month. I will be charged for any excess.
    >>> I have become so concerned that I am leaving my modem connection to my
    >>> phone line unplugged except when I need to access the internet.
    >>>
    >>> Regarding the first episode: I tried PREVX. It found and removed some
    >>> malware. It reported that it put the following items in "jail".
    >>> zrmkxe.exe (4 KB)
    >>> ykouzmp.exe (4 KB)
    >>> ugstzfqp.exe (4 KB)
    >>> tftp4904 (4 KB)
    >>> shell64.dll (14 KB) (http://www.auditmypc.com/process/shell64.asp)
    >>> rphekn.exe (4 KB)
    >>> gpiawddx.exe 4 KB)
    >>> avgmb.exe (4 KB)
    >>>
    >>> This cleared up the problem but PREVX and Norton 360 do not get along
    >>> with each other - Norton 360 will not work properly unless PREVX is
    >>> not present in the same system.
    >>>
    >>> I spent a considerable amount of time on the Symantec technical help
    >>> line. Symantec finally apparently fixed the problem by activating the
    >>> Norton 360 backup facility. Traffic dropped back down to its normal
    >>> level for a while. I can't understand why this worked - what is the
    >>> connection between backup and the high traffic problem?
    >>>
    >>> Broadband traffic went back to normal for a while but eventually the
    >>> high traffic problem returned on several occasions. They were fixed by
    >>> (1) installing PREVX, (2) doing a scan with it whereby it cleared out
    >>> some malware, and (3) uninstalling PREVX - all of this while
    >>> temporarily disabling Norton 360.
    >>>
    >>> As I said earlier, the second and last episode of the high traffic
    >>> broadband problem began a few days ago. This seems to be different
    >>> than the first episode because the high traffic is mainly downloading
    >>> while uploading is normal.
    >>>
    >>> The big issue with all this is that I need to find out what spyware
    >>> malware is causing my high traffic. Can anyone tell me how to do this.
    >>> Is there some diagnostic software that could be of use here?
    >>>
    >>> Below are some items that might help diagnose my problem. All of these
    >>> were obtained when broadband traffic was very high as indicated by the
    >>> monitor symbols being lit up constantly.
    >>>
    >>> The first item is a HijackThis log file. The last two are snapshots
    >>> are the most active processes in the Windows Task Manager process
    >>> display.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks in advance for your help.
    >>>
    >>> Jim
    >>>
    >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    >>> -
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >




  5. #15
    wng_z3r0 Guest

    Re: Unexplained high broadband traffic

    Don't try to change the argument. I have not once mentioned anything about
    stealing code. That is irrelevant to this discussion.
    Who cares if you have documented everything on your website or have
    'reviews' on your website? Look at any of the smitfraud variant websites,
    you will see EXACTLY the same thing (remember winfixer.com ? ). Any
    'guarantees' from an author's website are essentially useless from a trust
    perspective, as you are trying to guage the trust of that website in the
    first place.

    You have not presented one valid counter claim to my supposition that
    receiving private executables from unknown people on the internet is a 'bad
    thing'. Unless you wish to discuss this point or the OP replies to this
    thread, I will not waste any more of my time on this topic.

    wng
    "pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
    news:fetkvv$kkj$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    > Everything I put out is well documented and explained on my website.
    > Everything is safe and tested. Because I choose not to share those links
    > in these NG's is by choice. If I am as bad as everybody says I am then why
    > no complaints from user of my files? Why is my site still up, why has it
    > always been up. If I am a thief they why did I beat two DMCA complaints?
    > The easiest way to take down any website is to file a DMCA yet my site is
    > still up. Get your facts straight.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads
    > The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com,
    > David H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
    > Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell
    >
    >
    >
    > "wng_z3r0" <wng_z3r0@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    > news:8EF12E32-AA6C-4A5B-A7D0-CBEA958CF402@microsoft.com...
    >> Regardless of the nature of pcbutts, which I won't get into here, I
    >> strongly advise you NEVER to download code from an unknown entity on the
    >> internet in a scenario that pcbutts is proposing. Not only do you not
    >> have any information about pcbutts, but you could not even look at
    >> reviews from a 'trusted authority' such as perhaps CNET as for all you
    >> know, you could be receiving a unique malware file that is emailed to
    >> you. Just a suggestion on safe(r) internet habits.
    >>
    >> Anyways, specifically concerning your network traffic, try installing
    >> wireshark, and running a packet trace when the internet connection
    >> spikes:
    >> http://www.wireshark.org/
    >>
    >> As it appears you have a malware infestation on your computer, there is a
    >> possibility that this malware is leeching private information in the
    >> computer (such as passwords etc) back to a remote server, or perhaps the
    >> computer is used as a 'bot'. In either case, you really should disconnect
    >> the computer from the internet until the computer is cleaned. Not doing
    >> so puts your computer at more risk and most likely others as well.
    >>
    >> To begin cleaning your computer, can you please tell me what version of
    >> windows you are running?
    >>
    >> wng
    >>
    >>
    >> "pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
    >> news:fes0ee$phg$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    >>> Go to my website http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads use the email link at
    >>> the bottom, put "Running Now" in the subject line and email me. I will
    >>> send you my more extensive diagnostic tool, it works better than HJT,
    >>> with instructions on how to use it.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>> Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads
    >>> The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com,
    >>> David H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
    >>> Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Jim" <koehler@btinternet.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:1192286950.230976.246240@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
    >>>>A real challenge to all spyware and malware experts.
    >>>>
    >>>> Please excuse my bad manners in publishing this article in two
    >>>> newsgroups simultaneously. I am not sure which one is most likely to
    >>>> provide help in solving my problem.
    >>>>
    >>>> If there is another newsgroup that in which I should post this article
    >>>> please let me know.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> The problem that I have is driving me mad!
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> The problem is that my broadband traffic is at times extremely high
    >>>> for completely unexplained reasons.
    >>>>
    >>>> This is indicated by (1) the daily log kept by my ISP and (2) more
    >>>> visibly by the icon in the lower right-hand corner on my screen that
    >>>> consists of the two little monitor symbols. It these symbols indicate
    >>>> broadband activity by lighting up in light blue - one for up traffic
    >>>> and the other for down traffic.
    >>>>
    >>>> The problem has been around on and off for three months now.
    >>>>
    >>>> Environment: Windows XP SP2, Symantec Norton 360, Namesco (ISP) and Ad-
    >>>> Aware SE Personal. The last of these I run only on demand - usually
    >>>> once a day.
    >>>>
    >>>> When the problem is occurring the daily ISP log shows 4 or 5 times
    >>>> normal megabytes per day and the monitor symbols are lit up all the
    >>>> time.
    >>>>
    >>>> Normally the log and the monitor symbols show low broadband activity.
    >>>> I have been a fairly light user of the internet. No movie downloads,
    >>>> etc. Just emails and web page accesses.
    >>>>
    >>>> The high activity problem has occurred in two episodes. During the
    >>>> first of these (a couple of weeks) the high traffic was more or less
    >>>> equally divided between uploading and downloading. But during the most
    >>>> recent episode (a couple of days) downloading has been very high while
    >>>> uploading was normal.
    >>>>
    >>>> My traffic has been so high that my ISP's monthly limit is 60% used
    >>>> while I am only 40% into the month. I will be charged for any excess.
    >>>> I have become so concerned that I am leaving my modem connection to my
    >>>> phone line unplugged except when I need to access the internet.
    >>>>
    >>>> Regarding the first episode: I tried PREVX. It found and removed some
    >>>> malware. It reported that it put the following items in "jail".
    >>>> zrmkxe.exe (4 KB)
    >>>> ykouzmp.exe (4 KB)
    >>>> ugstzfqp.exe (4 KB)
    >>>> tftp4904 (4 KB)
    >>>> shell64.dll (14 KB) (http://www.auditmypc.com/process/shell64.asp)
    >>>> rphekn.exe (4 KB)
    >>>> gpiawddx.exe 4 KB)
    >>>> avgmb.exe (4 KB)
    >>>>
    >>>> This cleared up the problem but PREVX and Norton 360 do not get along
    >>>> with each other - Norton 360 will not work properly unless PREVX is
    >>>> not present in the same system.
    >>>>
    >>>> I spent a considerable amount of time on the Symantec technical help
    >>>> line. Symantec finally apparently fixed the problem by activating the
    >>>> Norton 360 backup facility. Traffic dropped back down to its normal
    >>>> level for a while. I can't understand why this worked - what is the
    >>>> connection between backup and the high traffic problem?
    >>>>
    >>>> Broadband traffic went back to normal for a while but eventually the
    >>>> high traffic problem returned on several occasions. They were fixed by
    >>>> (1) installing PREVX, (2) doing a scan with it whereby it cleared out
    >>>> some malware, and (3) uninstalling PREVX - all of this while
    >>>> temporarily disabling Norton 360.
    >>>>
    >>>> As I said earlier, the second and last episode of the high traffic
    >>>> broadband problem began a few days ago. This seems to be different
    >>>> than the first episode because the high traffic is mainly downloading
    >>>> while uploading is normal.
    >>>>
    >>>> The big issue with all this is that I need to find out what spyware
    >>>> malware is causing my high traffic. Can anyone tell me how to do this.
    >>>> Is there some diagnostic software that could be of use here?
    >>>>
    >>>> Below are some items that might help diagnose my problem. All of these
    >>>> were obtained when broadband traffic was very high as indicated by the
    >>>> monitor symbols being lit up constantly.
    >>>>
    >>>> The first item is a HijackThis log file. The last two are snapshots
    >>>> are the most active processes in the Windows Task Manager process
    >>>> display.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
    >>>>
    >>>> Jim
    >>>>
    >>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    >>>> -
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>

    >
    >



  6. #16
    pcbutts1 Guest

    Re: Unexplained high broadband traffic

    I wrote a malware removal program called Spyerase. Everybody said I stole it
    from someone else. I sold Spyerase last year and made a pretty penny for it
    too. I sold it to a major Anti-malware Anti-virus company who found me in
    these NG's and in my forums. I am not unknown. If I can write something that
    works then people have the right to use it. You can try to back out of this
    thread if you want but I know exactly what your intentions were in your
    first post.


    --

    Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads
    The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com, David
    H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
    Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell



    "wng_z3r0" <wng_z3r0@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:CD640A2D-0757-4146-A3A6-FA240FDA2599@microsoft.com...
    > Don't try to change the argument. I have not once mentioned anything about
    > stealing code. That is irrelevant to this discussion.
    > Who cares if you have documented everything on your website or have
    > 'reviews' on your website? Look at any of the smitfraud variant websites,
    > you will see EXACTLY the same thing (remember winfixer.com ? ). Any
    > 'guarantees' from an author's website are essentially useless from a trust
    > perspective, as you are trying to guage the trust of that website in the
    > first place.
    >
    > You have not presented one valid counter claim to my supposition that
    > receiving private executables from unknown people on the internet is a
    > 'bad thing'. Unless you wish to discuss this point or the OP replies to
    > this thread, I will not waste any more of my time on this topic.
    >
    > wng
    > "pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
    > news:fetkvv$kkj$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    >> Everything I put out is well documented and explained on my website.
    >> Everything is safe and tested. Because I choose not to share those links
    >> in these NG's is by choice. If I am as bad as everybody says I am then
    >> why no complaints from user of my files? Why is my site still up, why has
    >> it always been up. If I am a thief they why did I beat two DMCA
    >> complaints? The easiest way to take down any website is to file a DMCA
    >> yet my site is still up. Get your facts straight.
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads
    >> The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com,
    >> David H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
    >> Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "wng_z3r0" <wng_z3r0@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    >> news:8EF12E32-AA6C-4A5B-A7D0-CBEA958CF402@microsoft.com...
    >>> Regardless of the nature of pcbutts, which I won't get into here, I
    >>> strongly advise you NEVER to download code from an unknown entity on the
    >>> internet in a scenario that pcbutts is proposing. Not only do you not
    >>> have any information about pcbutts, but you could not even look at
    >>> reviews from a 'trusted authority' such as perhaps CNET as for all you
    >>> know, you could be receiving a unique malware file that is emailed to
    >>> you. Just a suggestion on safe(r) internet habits.
    >>>
    >>> Anyways, specifically concerning your network traffic, try installing
    >>> wireshark, and running a packet trace when the internet connection
    >>> spikes:
    >>> http://www.wireshark.org/
    >>>
    >>> As it appears you have a malware infestation on your computer, there is
    >>> a possibility that this malware is leeching private information in the
    >>> computer (such as passwords etc) back to a remote server, or perhaps the
    >>> computer is used as a 'bot'. In either case, you really should
    >>> disconnect the computer from the internet until the computer is cleaned.
    >>> Not doing so puts your computer at more risk and most likely others as
    >>> well.
    >>>
    >>> To begin cleaning your computer, can you please tell me what version of
    >>> windows you are running?
    >>>
    >>> wng
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:fes0ee$phg$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    >>>> Go to my website http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads use the email link
    >>>> at the bottom, put "Running Now" in the subject line and email me. I
    >>>> will send you my more extensive diagnostic tool, it works better than
    >>>> HJT, with instructions on how to use it.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>>
    >>>> Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here
    >>>> http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads
    >>>> The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com,
    >>>> David H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
    >>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Jim" <koehler@btinternet.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:1192286950.230976.246240@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
    >>>>>A real challenge to all spyware and malware experts.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Please excuse my bad manners in publishing this article in two
    >>>>> newsgroups simultaneously. I am not sure which one is most likely to
    >>>>> provide help in solving my problem.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If there is another newsgroup that in which I should post this article
    >>>>> please let me know.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The problem that I have is driving me mad!
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The problem is that my broadband traffic is at times extremely high
    >>>>> for completely unexplained reasons.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> This is indicated by (1) the daily log kept by my ISP and (2) more
    >>>>> visibly by the icon in the lower right-hand corner on my screen that
    >>>>> consists of the two little monitor symbols. It these symbols indicate
    >>>>> broadband activity by lighting up in light blue - one for up traffic
    >>>>> and the other for down traffic.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The problem has been around on and off for three months now.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Environment: Windows XP SP2, Symantec Norton 360, Namesco (ISP) and
    >>>>> Ad-
    >>>>> Aware SE Personal. The last of these I run only on demand - usually
    >>>>> once a day.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> When the problem is occurring the daily ISP log shows 4 or 5 times
    >>>>> normal megabytes per day and the monitor symbols are lit up all the
    >>>>> time.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Normally the log and the monitor symbols show low broadband activity.
    >>>>> I have been a fairly light user of the internet. No movie downloads,
    >>>>> etc. Just emails and web page accesses.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The high activity problem has occurred in two episodes. During the
    >>>>> first of these (a couple of weeks) the high traffic was more or less
    >>>>> equally divided between uploading and downloading. But during the most
    >>>>> recent episode (a couple of days) downloading has been very high while
    >>>>> uploading was normal.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> My traffic has been so high that my ISP's monthly limit is 60% used
    >>>>> while I am only 40% into the month. I will be charged for any excess.
    >>>>> I have become so concerned that I am leaving my modem connection to my
    >>>>> phone line unplugged except when I need to access the internet.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Regarding the first episode: I tried PREVX. It found and removed some
    >>>>> malware. It reported that it put the following items in "jail".
    >>>>> zrmkxe.exe (4 KB)
    >>>>> ykouzmp.exe (4 KB)
    >>>>> ugstzfqp.exe (4 KB)
    >>>>> tftp4904 (4 KB)
    >>>>> shell64.dll (14 KB) (http://www.auditmypc.com/process/shell64.asp)
    >>>>> rphekn.exe (4 KB)
    >>>>> gpiawddx.exe 4 KB)
    >>>>> avgmb.exe (4 KB)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> This cleared up the problem but PREVX and Norton 360 do not get along
    >>>>> with each other - Norton 360 will not work properly unless PREVX is
    >>>>> not present in the same system.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I spent a considerable amount of time on the Symantec technical help
    >>>>> line. Symantec finally apparently fixed the problem by activating the
    >>>>> Norton 360 backup facility. Traffic dropped back down to its normal
    >>>>> level for a while. I can't understand why this worked - what is the
    >>>>> connection between backup and the high traffic problem?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Broadband traffic went back to normal for a while but eventually the
    >>>>> high traffic problem returned on several occasions. They were fixed by
    >>>>> (1) installing PREVX, (2) doing a scan with it whereby it cleared out
    >>>>> some malware, and (3) uninstalling PREVX - all of this while
    >>>>> temporarily disabling Norton 360.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> As I said earlier, the second and last episode of the high traffic
    >>>>> broadband problem began a few days ago. This seems to be different
    >>>>> than the first episode because the high traffic is mainly downloading
    >>>>> while uploading is normal.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The big issue with all this is that I need to find out what spyware
    >>>>> malware is causing my high traffic. Can anyone tell me how to do this.
    >>>>> Is there some diagnostic software that could be of use here?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Below are some items that might help diagnose my problem. All of these
    >>>>> were obtained when broadband traffic was very high as indicated by the
    >>>>> monitor symbols being lit up constantly.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The first item is a HijackThis log file. The last two are snapshots
    >>>>> are the most active processes in the Windows Task Manager process
    >>>>> display.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Jim
    >>>>>
    >>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    >>>>> -
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >




  7. #17
    ---Fitz--- Guest

    Re: Unexplained high broadband traffic

    "pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
    news:fetooc$slr$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    >I wrote a malware removal program called Spyerase. Everybody said I stole
    >it from someone else. I sold Spyerase last year and made a pretty penny for
    >it too. I sold it to a major Anti-malware Anti-virus company who found me
    >in these NG's and in my forums. I am not unknown.


    You sold it...yeah, right. You're right about not being unknown
    though...Chris.


  8. #18
    spears list Guest

    Re: Unexplained high broadband traffic

    On Oct 13, 9:49 am, Jim <koeh...@btinternet.com> wrote:
    > A real challenge to all spyware and malware experts.
    >
    > Please excuse my bad manners in publishing this article in two
    > newsgroups simultaneously. I am not sure which one is most likely to
    > provide help in solving my problem.
    >
    > If there is another newsgroup that in which I should post this article
    > please let me know.
    >
    > The problem that I have is driving me mad!
    >
    > The problem is that my broadband traffic is at times extremely high
    > for completely unexplained reasons.
    >
    > This is indicated by (1) the daily log kept by my ISP and (2) more
    > visibly by the icon in the lower right-hand corner on my screen that
    > consists of the two little monitor symbols. It these symbols indicate
    > broadband activity by lighting up in light blue - one for up traffic
    > and the other for down traffic.
    >
    > The problem has been around on and off for three months now.
    >
    > Environment: Windows XP SP2, Symantec Norton 360, Namesco (ISP) and Ad-
    > Aware SE Personal. The last of these I run only on demand - usually
    > once a day.
    >
    > When the problem is occurring the daily ISP log shows 4 or 5 times
    > normal megabytes per day and the monitor symbols are lit up all the
    > time.
    >
    > Normally the log and the monitor symbols show low broadband activity.
    > I have been a fairly light user of the internet. No movie downloads,
    > etc. Just emails and web page accesses.
    >
    > The high activity problem has occurred in two episodes. During the
    > first of these (a couple of weeks) the high traffic was more or less
    > equally divided between uploading and downloading. But during the most
    > recent episode (a couple of days) downloading has been very high while
    > uploading was normal.
    >
    > My traffic has been so high that my ISP's monthly limit is 60% used
    > while I am only 40% into the month. I will be charged for any excess.
    > I have become so concerned that I am leaving my modem connection to my
    > phone line unplugged except when I need to access the internet.
    >
    > Regarding the first episode: I tried PREVX. It found and removed some
    > malware. It reported that it put the following items in "jail".
    > zrmkxe.exe (4 KB)
    > ykouzmp.exe (4 KB)
    > ugstzfqp.exe (4 KB)
    > tftp4904 (4 KB)
    > shell64.dll (14 KB) (http://www.auditmypc.com/process/shell64.asp)
    > rphekn.exe (4 KB)
    > gpiawddx.exe 4 KB)
    > avgmb.exe (4 KB)
    >
    > This cleared up the problem but PREVX and Norton 360 do not get along
    > with each other - Norton 360 will not work properly unless PREVX is
    > not present in the same system.
    >
    > I spent a considerable amount of time on the Symantec technical help
    > line. Symantec finally apparently fixed the problem by activating the
    > Norton 360 backup facility. Traffic dropped back down to its normal
    > level for a while. I can't understand why this worked - what is the
    > connection between backup and the high traffic problem?
    >
    > Broadband traffic went back to normal for a while but eventually the
    > high traffic problem returned on several occasions. They were fixed by
    > (1) installing PREVX, (2) doing a scan with it whereby it cleared out
    > some malware, and (3) uninstalling PREVX - all of this while
    > temporarily disabling Norton 360.
    >
    > As I said earlier, the second and last episode of the high traffic
    > broadband problem began a few days ago. This seems to be different
    > than the first episode because the high traffic is mainly downloading
    > while uploading is normal.
    >
    > The big issue with all this is that I need to find out what spyware
    > malware is causing my high traffic. Can anyone tell me how to do this.
    > Is there some diagnostic software that could be of use here?
    >
    > Below are some items that might help diagnose my problem. All of these
    > were obtained when broadband traffic was very high as indicated by the
    > monitor symbols being lit up constantly.
    >
    > The first item is a HijackThis log file. The last two are snapshots
    > are the most active processes in the Windows Task Manager process
    > display.
    >
    > Thanks in advance for your help.
    >
    > Jim
    >
    > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    > -
    >
    > Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
    > Scan saved at 23:41:58, on 10/12/2007
    > Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    > MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16544)
    >
    > Running processes:
    > C:\WINNT\System32\smss.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\winlogon.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\services.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\lsass.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
    > C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
    > C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
    > C:\WINNT\Explorer.EXE
    > C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\spoolsv.exe
    > C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin
    > \AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\CTsvcCDA.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\inetsrv\inetinfo.exe
    > C:\Program Files\Kontiki\KService.exe
    > C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7Debug\mdm.exe
    > C:\Program Files\MySQL\MySQL Server 5.0\bin\mysqld-nt.exe
    > C:\WINNT\System32\PGPsdkServ.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\dllhost.exe
    > C:\WINNT\System32\vssvc.exe
    > C:\Program Files\RealVNC\VNC4\WinVNC4.exe
    > C:\WINNT\System32\MsPMSPSv.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\fxssvc.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\dllhost.exe
    > C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
    > C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTTask.exe
    > C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
    > C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\ctfmon.exe
    > C:\Program Files\Intense Language Office\COMMON\Offman.exe
    > C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    > C:\Program Files\Eraser\eraser.exe
    > C:\Program Files\Kontiki\KHost.exe
    > C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
    > C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\WINWORD.EXE
    > C:\WINNT\system32\taskmgr.exe
    > C:\WINNT\system32\notepad.exe
    > C:\Program Files\HJT\HijackThis.exe
    >
    > R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page =http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
    > R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
    > R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL =http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
    > R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL
    > =http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
    > R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page =http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
    > R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
    > R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant
    > =
    > R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch
    > =
    > O2 - BHO: mwsBar BHO - {07B18EA1-A523-4961-B6BB-170DE4475CCA} - (no
    > file)
    > O2 - BHO: (no name) - {1E8A6170-7264-4D0F-BEAE-D42A53123C75} - C:
    > \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\coShared\Browser
    > \1.7\NppBho.dll
    > O2 - BHO: SolidConverter PDF - {259F616C-A300-44F5-B04A-ED001A26C85C}
    > - C:\Program Files\SolidDocuments\SolidConverterPDF\ExploreExtP DF.dll
    > O2 - BHO: REALBAR - {4E7BD74F-2B8D-469E-C0FF-FD60B590A87D} - C:
    > \PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\Real\Toolbar\realbar.dll
    > O2 - BHO: Ipswitch.WsftpBrowserHelper - {601ED020-
    > FB6C-11D3-87D8-0050DA59922B} - C:\Program Files\WS_FTP Pro
    > \wsbho2k0.dll
    > O3 - Toolbar: REALBAR - {4E7BD74F-2B8D-469E-C0FF-FD60B590A87D} - C:
    > \PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\Real\Toolbar\realbar.dll
    > O3 - Toolbar: SolidConverter PDF - {259F616C-A300-44F5-B04A-
    > ED001A26C85C} - C:\Program Files\SolidDocuments\SolidConverterPDF
    > \ExploreExtPDF.dll
    > O3 - Toolbar: Show Norton Toolbar - {90222687-F593-4738-B738-
    > FBEE9C7B26DF} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\coShared
    > \Browser\1.7\UIBHO.dll
    > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real
    > \Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
    > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime
    > \QTTask.exe" -atboottime
    > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [zzz_ImInstaller_IncrediMail] C:\Documents and
    > Settings\Jim.JIM-HOMEPC\Local Settings\Temp\ImInstaller\IncrediMail
    > \incredimail_install[1].exe -startup -product IncrediMail
    > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes
    > \iTunesHelper.exe"
    > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
    > Shared\ccApp.exe"
    > O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ILO_Office_Manager] IntEdReg.exe /OFFMAN
    > O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINNT\system32\ctfmon.exe
    > O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /
    > background
    > O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Eraser] C:\Program Files\Eraser\eraser.exe -hide
    > O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [kdx] C:\Program Files\Kontiki\KHost.exe -all
    > O9 - Extra button: (no name) - SolidConverterPDF - (no file)
    > O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} -
    > C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
    > O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583}
    > - %windir%\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe (file missing)
    > O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @xpsp3res.dll,-20001 - {e2e2dd38-
    > d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - %windir%\Network Diagnostic
    > \xpnetdiag.exe (file missing)
    > O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683}
    > - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    > O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-
    > BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    > O9 - Extra button: (no name) - SolidConverterPDF - (no file) (HKCU)
    > O11 - Options group: [INTERNATIONAL] International*
    > O16 - DPF: {1D6711C8-7154-40BB-8380-3DEA45B69CBF} -
    > O16 - DPF: {200B3EE9-7242-4EFD-B1E4-D97EE825BA53} (VerifyGMN Class) -http://h20270.www2.hp.com/ediags/gmn/install/hpobjinstaller_gmn.cab
    > O16 - DPF: {2BC66F54-93A8-11D3-BEB6-00105AA9B6AE} (Symantec AntiVirus
    > scanner) -http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/SharedContent/vc/bin/AvSniff..cab
    > O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class)
    > -http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client...
    > O16 - DPF: {644E432F-49D3-41A1-8DD5-E099162EEEC5} (Symantec RuFSI
    > Utility Class) -http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/SharedContent/common/bin/cabsa.cab
    > O16 - DPF: {6F750200-1362-4815-A476-88533DE61D0C} (Ofoto Upload
    > Manager Class) -http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/downloads/BUM/BUM_WIN_IE_1/axofupld.cab
    > O16 - DPF: {71057C18-0507-4747-86BC-E11CE7512C5F} ...
    >
    > read more »


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