Does the name PA Bear sound familiar? he pissed me off, his actions was the
cost of your job. He tried to use his status as an MVP to ruin me, and my
job and in the long run all he did was costs others theirs and really pissed
off Chris Butts. I saw all his emails. This goes way beyond you. He thought
I was some smuck loser with too much time on my hands. You can rest assured
he won't mess with me again or NASA.

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Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads
The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com, David
H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell



<jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192393743.162757.164660@z24g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Oct 14, 10:39 am, "pcbutts1" <pcbut...@leythosthestalker.com>
> wrote:
>> >> >> You can't find it becausePcbutts1is not my real name. I use my
>> >> >> real name in the MS groups complete with my MVP sig.
>>
>> >> > And yet all of your posts asPCBUTTS1were banned because of your
>> >> > unethical actions.
>>
>> >> IIRC, he was banned because he refused to comply with the Microsoft
>> >> TOS,
>> >> not because of "unethical actions." The only server from which his
>> >> posts
>> >> are filtered are the Microsoft server. If he posts using a different
>> >> NNTP provider (as I do), those posts will be available on all usenet
>> >> servers but the Microsoft server.
>>
>> > You are correct. I never cared about his ethics. I had complaints
>> > about the content of his posts, I investigated the situation, I
>> > explained them to him, he refused to follow the rules, and I blocked
>> > him *solely* from Microsoft's servers. I wanted to make sure that
>> > when we canceled a message, we did not ship that cancel message off to
>> > USENET as a whole. We (well, Microsoft.. I'm putting my MS hat back
>> > on) don't own USENET. We own our servers, and we had full right to
>> > remove what we wanted from our own servers. I'm not doing it anymore,
>> > my Newsgroup Admin role ended back in 2005 and I am not currently
>> > employed by Microsoft.
>>
>> >> Microsoft has a dubious history when it comes to banning and
>> >> censorship,
>> >> so if I were you, I would not use butts' banning from its server as a
>> >> data point in support of the case against him.
>>
>> > You are more than welcome to question me with regards to anything
>> > regarding the newsgroup servers between, roughly, 2003 and 2005. That
>> > was my job and I took pride in ensuring that *only* ToS violators and
>> > true USENET spammers were banned.
>>
>> >> I reported the Sharon Franks ID the first time I saw it (June 2006,
>> >> when
>> >> he posted one of his infamous links), but nothing was done then and
>> >> nothing has been done since.
>>
>> > That was after my time, so I can't speak about that.
>>
>> > You can feel free to believe I'm not really the John Eddy who was in
>> > charge of the servers.
>> > You can feel free to believe whatPCButts1has said about his
>> > interactions with me, none of which have been true.
>>
>> > ....
>> > And, since it is now stuck in my head, let me get it stuck in yours
>> > too....
>> > You can dance if you want to.
>> > You can leave your friends behind....
>>
>> C'mon now tell the truth. I had a few posts cancelled strictly because I
>> encouraged the posting of HJT logs.
>
> Sure, I'll tell the truth:
> You had more than a few posts canceled and they were never canceled
> because you encouraged the posting of HJT logs.
>
>> The was not and there still are no rules
>> against posting of logs in any MS group.
>
> You are correct. And, like I said, that's not why your posts were
> ever removed.
>
>> I never violated anything.
>
>> You and
>> JE were gung ho and biased in your removal of my posts and it cost him
>> his
>> position as admin and probably your job I don't know, I don't know you.
>
> I am John Eddy. You didn't cost me my job. Removing your posts
> didn't cost me my job. You had nothing to do with why I am not the
> Newsgroups Admin anymore. If you want to believe you were, feel free,
> but, frankly, you had nothing to do with it. My team was outsourced.
> The *entire* team.
>
>> Removing posts is way different from being banned. You didn't even bother
>> to
>> check the headers. Get your facts straight.
>
> Check the headers of what? My facts are extremely straight, thank you
> very much.
>
>> That case went way beyond you
>> and JE. If you want to blame somebody for that then blame the big headed
>> MVP's who thought they owned the MS newsgroups.
>
> Blame someone for what? And considering you're taking credit for
> having me removed as Newsgroups Administrator, it sounds like *you*
> are the one who thinks he owns the MS Newsgroups.
>
>> That's why they don't like
>> me because they could not stop me.
>>
>
> No, sir, they don't like you because you're a total ass.
>