jaydeflix@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 14, 5:30 am, "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhonda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Leythos wrote:
>>> In article <fercbj$bq...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,pcbut ts1
>>> @leythosthestalker.com says...
>>>> You can't find it becausePcbutts1is not my real name. I use my
>>>> real name in the MS groups complete with my MVP sig.
>>
>>> And yet all of your posts asPCBUTTS1were banned because of your
>>> unethical actions.
>>
>> IIRC, he was banned because he refused to comply with the Microsoft
>> TOS, not because of "unethical actions." The only server from which
>> his posts are filtered are the Microsoft server. If he posts using a
>> different NNTP provider (as I do), those posts will be available on
>> all usenet servers but the Microsoft server.
>
> You are correct. I never cared about his ethics. I had complaints
> about the content of his posts, I investigated the situation, I
> explained them to him, he refused to follow the rules, and I blocked
> him *solely* from Microsoft's servers. I wanted to make sure that
> when we canceled a message, we did not ship that cancel message off to
> USENET as a whole. We (well, Microsoft.. I'm putting my MS hat back
> on) don't own USENET. We own our servers, and we had full right to
> remove what we wanted from our own servers. I'm not doing it anymore,
> my Newsgroup Admin role ended back in 2005 and I am not currently
> employed by Microsoft.
>
>> Microsoft has a dubious history when it comes to banning and
>> censorship, so if I were you, I would not use butts' banning from
>> its server as a data point in support of the case against him.
>
> You are more than welcome to question me with regards to anything
> regarding the newsgroup servers between, roughly, 2003 and 2005. That
> was my job and I took pride in ensuring that *only* ToS violators and
> true USENET spammers were banned.

To the best of my knowledge, there is no evidence to the contrary.
Moreover, it was not my intention to take a swipe at you. In addition to
the memory detailed above, I have another recollection that you were a
hands-on and responsive administrator in maintaining the Microsoft
groups.

I do, however, stand by the assertion that being banned by a newsgroup
administrator is not sufficient evidence to establish the state of one's
ethical compass. (Not that I think Butts' has an ethical compass--given
some of his antics, it's a pretty obvious he does not.)

>> I reported the Sharon Franks ID the first time I saw it (June 2006,
>> when he posted one of his infamous links), but nothing was done then
>> and nothing has been done since.
>
> That was after my time, so I can't speak about that.

"After your time" was the "dubious history" to which I was specifically
referring above. If it will make you more comfortable, I'll say "dubious
recent history."

> You can feel free to believe I'm not really the John Eddy who was in
> charge of the servers.

I well know how irritating it can be to be told one is not who or what
one is, so I'll take your word that you are who you say you are.

> You can feel free to believe what PCButts1 has said about his
> interactions with me, none of which have been true.

You can rest assured that if Butts says it, I will assume it's untrue
until I'm provided with incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.

> ....
> And, since it is now stuck in my head, let me get it stuck in yours
> too....
> You can dance if you want to.
> You can leave your friends behind....
>
> -jd

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