On Sep 15, 3:15 am, Gerald309 <gerald...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 15, 2:45 am, Gerald309 <gerald...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Sep 14, 5:17 pm, h...@not.here.com wrote:
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> > > Well, I just bought the program the other day. Right from the start,I
> > > did have problems with loading Kaspersky AV after installing Spy
> > > Sweeper. After a few reboots, everything seemed to be working okay,
> > > even though I found Spy Sweeper to be a real memory hog. However, in
> > > the last 24 hours, I found it to be a real pain in arse to the point
> > > where I finally uninstalled it.
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> > > It began by conflicting with my Kaspersky AV. Then I noticed Tea Timer
> > > having problems with Spy Sweeper. Thinking that many people in the past
> > > have had problems running Spybot's Tea Timer, even though I haven't had
> > > any problems with it for years, I decided to sacrifice Tea Timer and
> > > turned it off.
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> > > Then Spy Sweeper began anew with keeping Kaspersky from loading at
> > > times. Then it destroyed my firewall by locking up the comp after I had
> > > updated Spy Sweeper and did a sweep with it. No key would work. The
> > > comp would freeze completely, stranding my Best Crypt drives in the wide
> > > open position, forcing me to boot the machine in order to regain
> > > control. My firewall paid the price after a few times of this nonsense.
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> > > The dang program even locked out certain other programs from working,
> > > such as Directory Snoop. It also forced me to double click a number of
> > > times on CleanCache, which simply wouldn't respond for about 30 seconds
> > > or so after my clicking on it. Even then, it would go right to the
> > > system tray instead of opening.
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> > > So I decided I would turn off Spy Sweeper, keeping it from booting, and
> > > using it only in an On Demand fashion for sweeps. Well, I'll tell you
> > > that little bas***d didn't appreciate that at all. The s.o.b. thing went
> > > on an interminable sweep when called up, telling me that different
> > > pieces of my perfectly good software were a threat. The damn thing
> > > wouldn't turn off - not even after a cold boot. It came back on witha
> > > vengeance after I turned the comp back on after the cold boot. Finally,
> > > I don't know how or why, the dang thing turned itself off, allowing me
> > > to click on the system tray icon and close the damn thing. THAT'S when I
> > > had it and uninstalled the bleeping thing before it could re-energize
> > > itself and come back to life.
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> > > KEE-RIST!! I haven't seen crap software like this thing since the days
> > > of Workshop for Windows 3.1 trying to run Norton crap.
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> > > So much for trusting products produced by 'well known' companies.
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> > > Enuf are enuf. Goodbye Spy Sweeper. Rot on my drive, nevermore to be
> > > installed. Matter of fact, now that I think of it, as soon as I
> > > complete this email, I'm gonna wipe the damn thing from the drive,
> > > precluding my ever forgetting this lesson and trying to reinstall it
> > > someday. As they say, good riddance to bad garbage.
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> > > Kiss $25 goodbye.
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> > > Lordy! What a mess it had made of a perfectly operating comp.
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> > It is too late now perhaps - unless you are able to reinstall - but
> > you should consider two things. Number one, getting past your anger,
> > consider that Webroot Spysweeper is the actual industry leader in
> > sales for years and years now which implies that you are one of a
> > very, very, very few persons that has had a bad experience with ---
> > meaning obviously if it were crap they would not be so popular
> > and rich. Number two, you should consider first going to the product
> > website to look for any Fixes that may have been issued that would
> > have solved all things with a couple clicks (install update). There
> > are not many antispyware programs with real time protection that will
> > run together, as one views the other as a threat and also in scans.
> > But you say you did that - uninstalled Spybot S&D. Months ago I tried
> > popular SuperAntispyware for the heck of it and this caused corruption
> > in Spysweeper. It had to be reinstalled.
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> > Webroot Spysweeper went through some changes. In their middle times a
> > couple of Upgrades ago sounds like what you are describing. There was
> > a clean up utility they issued that had to be run between the Upgrades
> > to enable normal operation of the newer version. I was as angry as you
> > sound like at the time. But it was temporary. They then issued the
> > Upgrade that added the new feature of adjusting CPU/memory usage.
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> > Unless you are familiar with threats it is virtually impossible for
> > someone to tell you how to run things as Advanced. It is necessary for
> > the average consumer to be aware of the computer system. All of these
> > companies do their best in creating the simplest design for the
> > average user that kind of heard about threats and knows less - but do
> > know that Spysweeper is one of the top three rated by the entire
> > community of professional testers. See TopTenReviewsCom for one. The
> > problem my friend is going to keep pointing back to you and what you
> > did.
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> > Apparently you did not hear that you cannot run two firewalls, two
> > antivirus programs, or two antispyware programs. This is most likely
> > the problem of the install. Spybot S&D may have even made a Windows
> > Registry entry and possible file corruption of your Webroot install.
> > Contact them.
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> > I keep seeing many persons swearing by Spybot Search and Destroy
> > thinking they are protected. It is at the bottom of the list in all
> > professional testings that are published. Basically it is rated at not
> > much above 50 or 60 percent effective whereas Webroot Spysweeper,
> > CounterSpy, and Trend Micro Antispyware (the top three for years) are
> > all rated as close as is available to 100 percent effective in
> > blocking and removing threats. I wished that all who use Spybot S&D
> > where aware of that.
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> > If you think you are Advanced or aware of the threats and so forth
> > then the top advanced product is Trend Micro Antispyware. It is
> > definately NOT recommended for a newbie - however is recommended for
> > Advanced use. It is just that tad bit above both the others in
> > protection - but you will have to be aware and familiar with all parts
> > of your machine. In other words knowing all your executables by name
> > in Task Mananger.... your start up programs. Familiar with files of
> > all your software installed. Aware of corresponding Registry entries
> > and on and on --- or you are sitting there with a possible threat and
> > can not click block until you find out exactly what it is blocking
> > which usually takes looking up the process real fast to see what has
> > been presented to you. And that's okay if you are at least that aware
> > that if you just click block everything you may be blocking valid
> > software from working.
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> > Another point is that Webroot Spysweeper and Trend Micro Antispyware
> > are known as producing virtually NO false positives. It is not
> > believable that your Webroot Spysweeper installation produced so many
> > false positives on valid softwares. A first run of the product is like
> > a firewall that is presenting items to you for your permissions. There
> > may be up to 40 (even more) processes running in the background just
> > for your start up items and Windows when you start your computer.
> > Practically all of Windows processes are recognized but mostly
> > whatever software programs you have installed may be presented to you
> > to either okay always or may actually be a threat you need to
> > quarantine or delete. Most likely what you saw was Start Up items
> > being presented to you. These were anything with " .exe" in your start
> > up items found in Task Manager or a threat - which is what the Start
> > Up Shield protects against. In other words some spyware dot execute
> > (example, spyware-name.exe) that was going to execute (launch) at
> > start up was caught and not allowed to as either a known threat or
> > suspected one. Again my friend, Webroot is ABSOLUTELY known for years
> > as producing virtually NO false positives.
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> > And again, if you are at least an Intermediate User or better - then
> > Trend Micro Antispyware is your ticket. Trend Micro has the "Trickle"
> > feature and honestly you do not even know it is running in a quick or
> > full scan. It is the only product I know of that has the MSN Explorer
> > history cleaner in it's included features and I was born on msn.com in
> > 2001. MSN.com internet includes the sleekest MSN Browser - Hide quoted text -
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> SORRY... hit my mouse and it posted before I was finished....
> PART 2 ---- ....MSN.com internet includes the sleekest MSN Browser but
> there are only two products that have ever been created that are able
> to work with it as McAfee industrial antivirus and Trend Micro
> Antispyware. Sideline.... I think McAfee antivirus was the first and
> only that worked with Vista OS for a good while. That was mentioned as
> a testament to these companies ability.
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> Bottom line.... please do not get me wrong. I am not knocking one
> program and promoting another. What I am promoting is Computing Safety
> which I found out the hard way about 4 or more years ago. I have been
> up and down this internet and all the antispyware areas for years and
> years now since 2001 on my first computer and then discovered adware
> and spyware as threats at about 2002. Spybot S&D was one of the very
> first products I tried not being aware of the actual industry out
> there yet. Well, down the line and trying to find more products for
> more infections I found I discovered the whole industry of
> antispyware. Webroot Spysweeper has been there about the same time
> Spybot S&D was released on day one, and Spybot is credited as one of
> the very first and perhaps even "discovery" itself. (Gotta read there
> website aqain).
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> In promoting Computing Security, the top three mentioned are the only
> ones still in the same ballpark as the best. What does best mean? Best
> means the ability to block in real time and detection of
> installations. The rest ...
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