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    Act of Patriots Guest

    Would a firewall have protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?

    I curiuos as to why a firewall, properly configured, would not have
    protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?

    According to the news reports
    (http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...-teen-spyware),
    the FBI installed routine CIPAV spyware via myspace to this kid's computer
    which tracked
    The computer's IP address
    The MAC address
    The person's username
    The last URL visited
    A list of open ports
    Computer programs that are running
    The operating system
    The internet browser and version
    The computer's registered owner
    The IP address of every computer which the PC connects for 60 days

    I'm curious.
    Would a properly configured firewall have prevented this?

    What was the weak link here?

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    CJ24 Guest

    Re: Would a firewall have protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?


    "Act of Patriots" <patriotacter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:8jDEi.2023$ZA5.897@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
    >I curiuos as to why a firewall, properly configured, would not have
    > protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?
    >
    > According to the news reports
    > (http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...-teen-spyware),
    > the FBI installed routine CIPAV spyware via myspace to this kid's computer


    No, learn what a firewall is for.



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    pcbutts1 Guest

    Re: Would a firewall have protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?

    Do you really think that there is actually a COTS software or hardware that
    is capable of blocking what the FBI wants to do to you? Have you heard of
    the Patriot Act.



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    "Act of Patriots" <patriotacter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:8jDEi.2023$ZA5.897@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
    >I curiuos as to why a firewall, properly configured, would not have
    > protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?
    >
    > According to the news reports
    > (http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...-teen-spyware),
    > the FBI installed routine CIPAV spyware via myspace to this kid's computer
    > which tracked
    > The computer's IP address
    > The MAC address
    > The person's username
    > The last URL visited
    > A list of open ports
    > Computer programs that are running
    > The operating system
    > The internet browser and version
    > The computer's registered owner
    > The IP address of every computer which the PC connects for 60 days
    >
    > I'm curious.
    > Would a properly configured firewall have prevented this?
    >
    > What was the weak link here?




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    Virus Guy Guest

    Re: Would a firewall have protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?

    Act of Patriots wrote:

    > I curiuos as to why a firewall, properly configured, would not
    > have protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?


    How do you know that a firewall was running?

    Glazebrook was probably running XP on his PC, and probably just the
    in-bound default firewall was running. XP's native firewall does not
    perform out-bound permission checking.

    Note that the Sophos guy did not say if his software (or any other AV
    package) would detect the FBI CIPAV. One could speculate that AV
    makers have an agreement with Law Enforcement Agencies to NOT alert a
    user to the presence of such software.

    Also note that the NSA had input during the design of Vista.

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    Kerry Brown Guest

    Re: Would a firewall have protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?

    Once malware is running on your computer there isn't any software firewall
    that can be relied upon to stop it from communicating. If the malware has
    system level access it can modify the TCP/IP stack. It can create it's own
    TCP/IP stack and even get it's own IP address if a DHCP server is on the
    network. It could install itself as a root kit and intercept and modify all
    TCP/IP communications between Windows and the NIC. There are many ways to
    bypass a software firewall. I'm pretty sure the FBI has access to
    programmers that could use any of these tricks.

    --
    Kerry Brown


    "Act of Patriots" <patriotacter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:8jDEi.2023$ZA5.897@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
    >I curiuos as to why a firewall, properly configured, would not have
    > protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?
    >
    > According to the news reports
    > (http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...-teen-spyware),
    > the FBI installed routine CIPAV spyware via myspace to this kid's computer
    > which tracked
    > The computer's IP address
    > The MAC address
    > The person's username
    > The last URL visited
    > A list of open ports
    > Computer programs that are running
    > The operating system
    > The internet browser and version
    > The computer's registered owner
    > The IP address of every computer which the PC connects for 60 days
    >
    > I'm curious.
    > Would a properly configured firewall have prevented this?
    >
    > What was the weak link here?



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    Mr_Huang Guest

    Re: Would a firewall have protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?

    There's trillion ways to passby all the security measurements.
    Like:
    1) breaking a network firewall/gateway is to have the traffic
    encrypted using https (port 443, which is commonly allowed in most of
    the firewall policy)
    2) lure the user to install any unexpected software like malicious
    active X or use crafted javascript
    ....

    Most of the cases that have shown that the weakest link is the user

    On Sep 9, 4:07 am, Act of Patriots <patriotac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > I curiuos as to why a firewall, properly configured, would not have
    > protected Josh Glazebrook from the FBI?
    >
    > According to the news reports
    > (http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...-teen-spyware),
    > the FBI installed routine CIPAV spyware via myspace to this kid's computer
    > which tracked
    > The computer's IP address
    > The MAC address
    > The person's username
    > The last URL visited
    > A list of open ports
    > Computer programs that are running
    > The operating system
    > The internet browser and version
    > The computer's registered owner
    > The IP address of every computer which the PC connects for 60 days
    >
    > I'm curious.
    > Would a properly configured firewall have prevented this?
    >
    > What was the weak link here?




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