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  1. #1
    u235bomb@ml1.net Guest

    danger of replying to HOTBAR infested e-mails?

    My cousin has the evil HOTBAR in her Outlook Express.
    I have Outlook 2003 at work. When I get an e-mail from her,
    Outlook doesn't show pictures. I get the warning which includes:
    "To help protect your privacy, Outlook prevented automatic download"
    Now if I try to reply, I get another alert:

    To complete this action, Outlook must
    download content from a server other than
    your e-mail server. This could verify to the
    sender that your e-mail address is valid and
    increase the amount of junk e-mail you receive
    in the future.

    Is this true? Do HOTBAR code pictures with the e-mail
    of the recipient to harvest more spam victims?

    If so, can Outlook be configured not to use pictures
    in replies?


  2. #2
    pcbutts1 Guest

    Re: danger of replying to HOTBAR infested e-mails?

    Yes.


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    <u235bomb@ml1.net> wrote in message
    news:1186625015.167361.145630@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
    > My cousin has the evil HOTBAR in her Outlook Express.
    > I have Outlook 2003 at work. When I get an e-mail from her,
    > Outlook doesn't show pictures. I get the warning which includes:
    > "To help protect your privacy, Outlook prevented automatic download"
    > Now if I try to reply, I get another alert:
    >
    > To complete this action, Outlook must
    > download content from a server other than
    > your e-mail server. This could verify to the
    > sender that your e-mail address is valid and
    > increase the amount of junk e-mail you receive
    > in the future.
    >
    > Is this true? Do HOTBAR code pictures with the e-mail
    > of the recipient to harvest more spam victims?
    >
    > If so, can Outlook be configured not to use pictures
    > in replies?
    >




  3. #3
    Vanguard Guest

    Re: danger of replying to HOTBAR infested e-mails?

    <u235bomb@ml1.net> wrote in message
    news:1186625015.167361.145630@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
    > My cousin has the evil HOTBAR in her Outlook Express.
    > I have Outlook 2003 at work. When I get an e-mail from her,
    > Outlook doesn't show pictures. I get the warning which includes:
    > "To help protect your privacy, Outlook prevented automatic download"
    > Now if I try to reply, I get another alert:
    >
    > To complete this action, Outlook must
    > download content from a server other than
    > your e-mail server. This could verify to the
    > sender that your e-mail address is valid and
    > increase the amount of junk e-mail you receive
    > in the future.
    >
    > Is this true? Do HOTBAR code pictures with the e-mail
    > of the recipient to harvest more spam victims?
    >
    > If so, can Outlook be configured not to use pictures
    > in replies?
    >



    Don't reply in HTML mode. Select to reply in plain-text mode by
    default. Then, if you want, you can switch to HTML mode while composing
    a reply but the original HTML-formatted e-mail gets converted to plain
    text.

    Or you could configure Outlook to reply by attaching the original
    message rather than insert it inline to your new e-mail. Then only if
    the recipient opens the attached HTML-formatted e-mail could a web
    beacon identify that the original recipient (you) had opened the e-mail
    (which you didn't but opening it indicates to the spammer's file server
    that you did since their particular web beacon is associated with your
    e-mail address). When configured to reply with original as attachment,
    you could delete the attachment in the new-mail window. Or you could
    configure not to include the original message when replying.

    Or you could simply compose an entire *new* e-mail rather than replying
    to the infected one sent to you. Tell your cousin that you won't accept
    any more e-mail from him/her (i.e., they will be blacklisted) until they
    cleanup their host. Friends that stick knives in your back should be
    crossed off your friends list.


  4. #4
    Vanguard Guest

    Re: danger of replying to HOTBAR infested e-mails?

    <u235bomb@ml1.net> wrote in message
    news:1186625015.167361.145630@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
    > My cousin has the evil HOTBAR in her Outlook Express.
    > I have Outlook 2003 at work. When I get an e-mail from her,
    > Outlook doesn't show pictures. I get the warning which includes:
    > "To help protect your privacy, Outlook prevented automatic download"
    > Now if I try to reply, I get another alert:
    >
    > To complete this action, Outlook must
    > download content from a server other than
    > your e-mail server. This could verify to the
    > sender that your e-mail address is valid and
    > increase the amount of junk e-mail you receive
    > in the future.
    >
    > Is this true? Do HOTBAR code pictures with the e-mail
    > of the recipient to harvest more spam victims?
    >
    > If so, can Outlook be configured not to use pictures
    > in replies?
    >



    Another option is whether you include the original *linked* images as
    embedded photos within your reply. While Outlook may block linked
    images which can be used as web beacons, the default setup in Outlook
    has your reply include a copy of that image (if you actually yanked a
    copy of it). In OL2002, under Tools -> Options -> Mail Format ->
    Internet Format, disable the option:

    "When an HTML message contains pictures on the Internet, send a copy
    of the pictures instead of the reference to their location".

    Besides bloating the size of your reply with the image rather than using
    the same link in the e-mail that you received, the recipient may also be
    blocking linked images just like you and not have to bother with them.
    Personally I see no reason to bloat my message with an embedded copy of
    an image that the sender decided to provide a link to rather than
    include in their e-mail. The recipient can decide if they want to see
    the linked images, my reply remains small, their blocked image filter
    still works, and less bandwidth is used by both sender (me) and the
    recipient. Even if they are legit images, like the family picnic, the
    recipient should have the same options as I in deciding whether or not
    to retrieve those pics.

    When you send your HTML-coded reply, make sure the Format -> "Send
    pictures over the Internet" is *not* checked. This enables the page to
    be viewed with an Internet connection (i.e., the images are in the
    e-mail instead of links to them). If you disable the above "When an
    HTML message ... send copy of pictures" then this Format -> "Send
    pictures over the Internet" will also be disabled by default when
    composing a new mail.

    By DISABLING the automatic operation to embed images in your new e-mail,
    you will not be able to send web pages by e-mail (i.e., include a web
    page in your e-mail) without losing the graphics content. For example,
    when going to www.yahoo.com and sending their home page using File ->
    Send to -> Email recipient, the pictures will be missing which will also
    screwup the HTML layout so the HTML version in the e-mail doesn't match
    the web page. However, I have yet to see the big advantage of sending
    the contents of a web page versus sending a link to that web page.
    Obviously trying to send the web page will make for an e-mail that is
    far more huge than just sending a link to it. Again, I'm not rude to my
    recipients and a plain-text mail with a URL link takes less disk space
    and bandwidth to get my message than a bloated one containing the web
    page's content.



  5. #5
    F. H. Muffman Guest

    Re: danger of replying to HOTBAR infested e-mails?

    "pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
    news:f9dt8k$426$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    >> My cousin has the evil HOTBAR in her Outlook Express.
    >> I have Outlook 2003 at work. When I get an e-mail from her,
    >> Outlook doesn't show pictures. I get the warning which includes:
    >> "To help protect your privacy, Outlook prevented automatic download"
    >> Now if I try to reply, I get another alert:
    >>
    >> To complete this action, Outlook must
    >> download content from a server other than
    >> your e-mail server. This could verify to the
    >> sender that your e-mail address is valid and
    >> increase the amount of junk e-mail you receive
    >> in the future.
    >>
    >> Is this true? Do HOTBAR code pictures with the e-mail
    >> of the recipient to harvest more spam victims?
    >>
    >> If so, can Outlook be configured not to use pictures
    >> in replies?
    >>


    > Yes.


    Yes what? He asked more than a couple questions. And if 'yes' is the
    answer to any of them, it is hardly a useful answer without more
    information.

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  6. #6
    cmsix Guest

    Re: danger of replying to HOTBAR infested e-mails?


    "F. H. Muffman" <f.h.muffman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:O6$xUDk2HHA.5116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > "pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
    > news:f9dt8k$426$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    >>> My cousin has the evil HOTBAR in her Outlook Express.
    >>> I have Outlook 2003 at work. When I get an e-mail from her,
    >>> Outlook doesn't show pictures. I get the warning which includes:
    >>> "To help protect your privacy, Outlook prevented automatic download"
    >>> Now if I try to reply, I get another alert:
    >>>
    >>> To complete this action, Outlook must
    >>> download content from a server other than
    >>> your e-mail server. This could verify to the
    >>> sender that your e-mail address is valid and
    >>> increase the amount of junk e-mail you receive
    >>> in the future.
    >>>
    >>> Is this true? Do HOTBAR code pictures with the e-mail
    >>> of the recipient to harvest more spam victims?
    >>>
    >>> If so, can Outlook be configured not to use pictures
    >>> in replies?
    >>>

    >
    >> Yes.

    >
    > Yes what? He asked more than a couple questions. And if 'yes' is the
    > answer to any of them, it is hardly a useful answer without more
    > information.


    If you are waiting for pcbutts1 to say something useful in this newsgroup
    then you are in for a very long wait.

    cmsix.


    >
    > --
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