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[FredW]

Victek expressed precisely :
>> |
>> | Why should it be avoided?
>>
>> The differences between the retail and corpoprate version are like night
>> and day and the retail version just plain sucks.
>
> You may be right,

No, not "maybe", but he is right.

Maybe you could google on "macafee bloatware" and "norton bloatware".
Read what you find and make your own opinion.
:-(

--
Fred Wening (NL)

[cmsix]

"Victek" <Victek@xyz.com> wrote in message
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>> |
>> | Why should it be avoided?
>>
>> The differences between the retail and corpoprate version are like night
>> and day and the
>> retail version just plain sucks.
>>
>
> You may be right, but can you point me to a review with some data that
> confirms the retail version "just plain sucks"?

I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, but after you've dealt with it on a
few customer machines you don't need to waste time reading reviews on the
piece of ****.

cmsix

>

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Victek" <Victek@xyz.com>

|>>
|>> Why should it be avoided?
>>
>> The differences between the retail and corpoprate version are like night
>> and day and the
>> retail version just plain sucks.
>>
| You may be right, but can you point me to a review with some data that
| confirms the retail version "just plain sucks"?

The problems are with the rquirements on the Internet Explorer browser, registration
process, lack of the Command Line Scanner, lack of fully configuring the product, etc,
etc...

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

[Victek]

>> You may be right, but can you point me to a review with some data that
>> confirms the retail version "just plain sucks"?
>
> I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, but after you've dealt with it on a
> few customer machines you don't need to waste time reading reviews on the
> piece of ****.
>

That's exactly the point - I don't have any experience with it. Apparently
you have and it hasn't been good <g>. I don't doubt your experience, and
when I hear you and others saying it should be avoided it makes me very
cautious. I just prefer to form my opinions based on more objective and
in-depth reviews. That way if a customer asks me about it I can say
something more then it "just plain sucks".

[roberto.banfi@email.it]

On Aug 11, 2:51 am, "Victek" <Vic...@xyz.com> wrote:
> >> You may be right, but can you point me to a review with some data that
> >> confirms the retail version "just plain sucks"?
>
> > I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, but after you've dealt with it on a
> > few customer machines you don't need to waste time reading reviews on the
> > piece of ****.
>
> That's exactly the point - I don't have any experience with it. Apparently
> you have and it hasn't been good <g>. I don't doubt your experience, and
> when I hear you and others saying it should be avoided it makes me very
> cautious. I just prefer to form my opinions based on more objective and
> in-depth reviews. That way if a customer asks me about it I can say
> something more then it "just plain sucks".

I'm replying with knowledge due to my experience... I do the windows
server & client administration in my company and we are running McAfee
Enterprise suite with ePO server for central deployment and
management... so I assume we are protected at the best McAfee state-of-
the-art.

well some of ours clients were infected with a virus that up-to-date
official (and licensed) McAfee Viruscan couldn't even detect! and AVS
(that is -and now WAS- Kaspersky lite) detected and cleaned it...

do you think McAfee lite will be better? ;-)

[cmsix]

<roberto.banfi@email.it> wrote in message
news:1189090536.311468.192580@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> On Aug 11, 2:51 am, "Victek" <Vic...@xyz.com> wrote:
>> >> You may be right, but can you point me to a review with some data that
>> >> confirms the retail version "just plain sucks"?
>>
>> > I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, but after you've dealt with it
>> > on a
>> > few customer machines you don't need to waste time reading reviews on
>> > the
>> > piece of ****.
>>
>> That's exactly the point - I don't have any experience with it.
>> Apparently
>> you have and it hasn't been good <g>. I don't doubt your experience, and
>> when I hear you and others saying it should be avoided it makes me very
>> cautious. I just prefer to form my opinions based on more objective and
>> in-depth reviews. That way if a customer asks me about it I can say
>> something more then it "just plain sucks".
>
> I'm replying with knowledge due to my experience... I do the windows
> server & client administration in my company and we are running McAfee
> Enterprise suite with ePO server for central deployment and
> management... so I assume we are protected at the best McAfee state-of-
> the-art.
>
> well some of ours clients were infected with a virus that up-to-date
> official (and licensed) McAfee Viruscan couldn't even detect! and AVS
> (that is -and now WAS- Kaspersky lite) detected and cleaned it...
>
> do you think McAfee lite will be better? ;-)
>

I don't, but I'll never know one way or the other. McAfee has been ****ty
for so long that I'll never touch it again. I don't want to get that stuff
on my fingers.

cmsix