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    Dustin Cook Guest

    Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar

    Hi All,

    After closely examining the toolbar offered by bluecollarpc.net, I'm left
    with no choice but to include it for detection and optional removal by the
    user due to the fact it's using a known adware/trackware companies product
    that's simply rebranded.

    As of today, 07-13-2007, BugHunter detects this program and both known
    variants of it, one which affects firefox via an extensions installation
    and the other which affects Internet Explorer via a BHO installation.

    Based on information collected on the company actually responsible for most
    of the code present inside, I'd recommend others follow suit.

    Thank You.

    --
    Dustin Cook
    Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
    web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml


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    cbgerry Guest

    Re: Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar

    I am sure McAfee Site Advisor would like to hear your false report to
    correct theirs then... (WHY HAVE YOU MADE THIS FALSE REPORT ???):::>

    SEE:
    http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/con...earch&aff_id=0

    conduit.com
    Green Verdict Image

    We tested this site and didn't find any significant problems.
    Are you the owner of this site? Leave a comment

    Automated Web Safety Testing Results for conduit.com
    e-mail tests for conduit.com:
    We found 2 sign-up forms and testing is in progress.
    Download tests for conduit.com:
    Downloads we found on this site:
    Download Analysis
    micro2media Toolbar (micro2media.exe)
    micro2media Toolbar (micro2media.exe)
    micro2media Toolbar (micro2media.exe)

    3 green downloads
    In our tests, we found downloads on this site were free of adware,
    spyware, and other unwanted programs.

    * View detailed analysis
    * Submit a download for analysis

    Online affiliations for conduit.com:
    Link Graph

    Linked to green sites

    When we visited this site, we found that most of its links are to
    sites which are safe or have only minor safety/annoyance issues.
    Annoyances from conduit.com:
    Reviewer and Web site owner comments
    User Review Summary for conduit.com

    This site is good (9)
    This site spams (0)

    Adware, spyware, or viruses (1)
    Excessive popups (0)
    Phishing or other scams (1)
    Bad shopping experience (1)
    Browser exploit (0)

    IN REPLY TO==============>
    bluecollarpc.net's toolbar

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    Dustin Cook View profile
    More options Jul 13, 8:14 pm

    Newsgroups: alt.privacy.spyware, alt.comp.virus
    From: Dustin Cook <spamfilterineffect.see....@nowhere.com>
    Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:14:58 GMT
    Local: Fri, Jul 13 2007 8:14 pm
    Subject: Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar
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    Hi All,

    After closely examining the toolbar offered by bluecollarpc.net, I'm
    left
    with no choice but to include it for detection and optional removal by
    the
    user due to the fact it's using a known adware/trackware companies
    product
    that's simply rebranded.


    As of today, 07-13-2007, BugHunter detects this program and both
    known
    variants of it, one which affects firefox via an extensions
    installation
    and the other which affects Internet Explorer via a BHO installation.


    Based on information collected on the company actually responsible for
    most
    of the code present inside, I'd recommend others follow suit.


    Thank You.


    --
    Dustin Cook
    Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    email: bughunter.dus...@gmail.com.removethis
    web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml

    THAT IS THE END OF YOUR NAME LIAR....OBVIOUSLY A PERSONAL ATTACK AS IT
    IS NOT "BLUECOLLAR'S TOOLBAR.... IT BELONGS TO CONDUIT.COM PUNK ASS
    LIAR .... THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TELLING THIS NEWS ROOM YOUR
    CREDIBILITY JUST DIED FOREVER IN SECURITY WORLD .... CLAP CLAP....
    THANK YOU SIR !!!!


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    Dustin Cook Guest

    Re: Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar

    cbgerry <cbgerry@bluecollarpc.net> wrote in
    news:1184539808.268718.8370@g4g2000hsf.googlegroup s.com:

    > I am sure McAfee Site Advisor would like to hear your false report to
    > correct theirs then... (WHY HAVE YOU MADE THIS FALSE REPORT ???):::>
    >
    > SEE:
    > http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/con...it.com&ref=saf
    > esearch&aff_id=0
    >
    > conduit.com
    > Green Verdict Image
    >
    > We tested this site and didn't find any significant problems.
    > Are you the owner of this site? Leave a comment
    >
    > Automated Web Safety Testing Results for conduit.com
    > e-mail tests for conduit.com:
    > We found 2 sign-up forms and testing is in progress.
    > Download tests for conduit.com:
    > Downloads we found on this site:
    > Download Analysis
    > micro2media Toolbar (micro2media.exe)
    > micro2media Toolbar (micro2media.exe)
    > micro2media Toolbar (micro2media.exe)
    >
    > 3 green downloads
    > In our tests, we found downloads on this site were free of adware,
    > spyware, and other unwanted programs.
    >
    > * View detailed analysis
    > * Submit a download for analysis
    >
    > Online affiliations for conduit.com:
    > Link Graph
    >
    > Linked to green sites
    >
    > When we visited this site, we found that most of its links are to
    > sites which are safe or have only minor safety/annoyance issues.
    > Annoyances from conduit.com:
    > Reviewer and Web site owner comments
    > User Review Summary for conduit.com
    >
    > This site is good (9)
    > This site spams (0)
    >
    > Adware, spyware, or viruses (1)
    > Excessive popups (0)
    > Phishing or other scams (1)
    > Bad shopping experience (1)
    > Browser exploit (0)
    >
    > IN REPLY TO==============>
    > bluecollarpc.net's toolbar
    >
    > The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to
    > this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the
    > Internet.
    > Your reply message has not been sent.
    > Your post was successful
    >
    >
    > Dustin Cook View profile
    > More options Jul 13, 8:14 pm
    >
    > Newsgroups: alt.privacy.spyware, alt.comp.virus
    > From: Dustin Cook <spamfilterineffect.see....@nowhere.com>
    > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:14:58 GMT
    > Local: Fri, Jul 13 2007 8:14 pm
    > Subject: Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar
    > Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | View thread | Show
    > original | Report this message | Find messages by this author
    > Hi All,
    >
    > After closely examining the toolbar offered by bluecollarpc.net, I'm
    > left
    > with no choice but to include it for detection and optional removal by
    > the
    > user due to the fact it's using a known adware/trackware companies
    > product
    > that's simply rebranded.
    >
    >
    > As of today, 07-13-2007, BugHunter detects this program and both
    > known
    > variants of it, one which affects firefox via an extensions
    > installation
    > and the other which affects Internet Explorer via a BHO installation.
    >
    >
    > Based on information collected on the company actually responsible for
    > most
    > of the code present inside, I'd recommend others follow suit.
    >
    >
    > Thank You.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Dustin Cook
    > Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    > email: bughunter.dus...@gmail.com.removethis
    > web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    > Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml
    >
    > THAT IS THE END OF YOUR NAME LIAR....OBVIOUSLY A PERSONAL ATTACK AS IT
    > IS NOT "BLUECOLLAR'S TOOLBAR.... IT BELONGS TO CONDUIT.COM PUNK ASS
    > LIAR .... THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TELLING THIS NEWS ROOM YOUR
    > CREDIBILITY JUST DIED FOREVER IN SECURITY WORLD .... CLAP CLAP....
    > THANK YOU SIR !!!!


    Your an idiot, sir. The toolbar is as I said, rebranded. Your site offers
    it, it's actually created by a company with questionable (at the least)
    business practices. BugHunter detects it, gives credit where credit is
    due; your site is all over the damn thing, and offers to remove it if the
    user would like.

    I have made no personal attacks on you or your site. I've simply given it
    a name based on what the persons responsible for it's release (that would
    be you) wanted it to be known as.

    As far as my credit is concerned sir, You as you have yourself said are
    merely a user. I am the expert, by your own definition and the
    terminology you follow; Your the little man on the totem poll. I've been
    writing code far longer than you've even been playing with computers, and
    really, that's all you've been doing. Don't even bother trying to come
    off as anything more than a ****wit. BugHunter is a free program, I have
    no commercial interests invested in it. That means, in plain english, I
    can give an honest opinion and say what I want without worrying about my
    stocks.

    If the company who actually wrote the code you pass off as your own stuff
    for your lame website has an issue, they know how to reach me. However,
    they likely won't bother. Various companies like them know how it goes in
    this game. That toolbar is junk, and your really an ******* for
    suggesting people download it.

    Sure, I bet they do get new users every 2 seconds. Doesn't adware have a
    high infection rate?


    --
    Dustin Cook
    Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
    web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml


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    cbgerry Guest

    Re: Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar

    On Jul 13, 8:14 pm, Dustin Cook
    <spamfilterineffect.see....@nowhere.com> wrote:
    > Hi All,
    >
    > After closely examining the toolbar offered by bluecollarpc.net, I'm left
    > with no choice but to include it for detection and optional removal by the
    > user due to the fact it's using a known adware/trackware companies product
    > that's simply rebranded.
    >
    > As of today, 07-13-2007, BugHunter detects this program and both known
    > variants of it, one which affects firefox via an extensions installation
    > and the other which affects Internet Explorer via a BHO installation.
    >
    > Based on information collected on the company actually responsible for most
    > of the code present inside, I'd recommend others follow suit.
    >
    > Thank You.
    >
    > --
    > Dustin Cook
    > Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    > email: bughunter.dus...@gmail.com.removethis
    > web..:http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    > Pad..:http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml


    And this is your idea of reciprocity ? Which shows I am intelligent
    and you are not ? Poor baby (yah yah yah yah yahyah gahgah) did some
    nobody call you an ACADEMIC HACK ???? BOY did I hit your spot !!!! How
    dared you to dignify the following with such a tit for tat
    insignificant projected lie showing us all who you really are -
    someone who CAN'T be trusted with the HAckwRE you push for illicit
    profits: QUOTE
    Definition, Dangers, and Examples of Hackware
    http://bluecollarpc.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=346

    (This would apply to utilities here, not full programs.)

    REFERENCES TO AVOID HACKWARE REMOVAL UTILITIES:

    BlueCollarpC.Net
    Hackware: Examples of hackware... beware!
    FILE: http://www.bluecollarpc.net/download...s-Examples.txt

    Lavasoft Ad Aware: Terms Of Service
    http://www.lavasoftsupport.com/index.php?act=boardrules
    We do not support any method of cracking, warez, workarounds,
    providing any methods, tools, or posting of links designed for this
    express purpose. [Removals]

    Enigma Software Group Responds
    http://www.enigmasoftware.com/suppor...ing-spyhunter/
    "....In addition to Symantec, other competitors of Enigma, including
    Malwarebytes.org, SecurityCadets.com, MalwareTeks.com, and Temerc.com,
    have been coordinating a campaign to have SpyHunter listed as rogue
    software. Each of these entities is a competitor of Enigma Software
    Group that either has competing products or is an affiliate of
    competing products. Enigma is evaluating closely its legal options
    with respect to this anticompetitive campaign...."

    Why do you little unprofessional ACADEMIC HACKS challenge professional
    and expert sharewares? Are you really claiming - "it is the little
    guys versus the big guys - c'mon help us out with a donation to keep
    our free software onboard".

    And of course the FIRST lesson in PC Security has been against "Free
    Stuff" shopping:

    RELATED ARTICLE:
    Itchy Hands » A quick » non-geeky guide to removing malware and ...
    http://www.itchyhands.com/2006/01/04...alware-removal
    Don't simply download 'free stuff'. Many times the free stuff is just
    a lure for you to download and install a programme that is full of
    malware. ...

    The BlueCollarPC.Net joins in the Total Majority of World Computer
    Users in recommending professional expert antispyware shareware
    software programs for personal and computer security.


    --------------------------/.

    FILE:
    http://www.bluecollarpc.net/download...s-Examples.txt
    SOURCE:
    http://www.bluecollarpc.net/pcsafetyfiles.html


    Hackware Example: Vista Transformation Pack ....

    Moderator:
    The term "hackware" is a term I apply to describe any type of software
    or utility that over-writes any part of Windows which includes
    Internet Explorer, which are 'good-guy hacks' but nevertheless should
    examined with "extreme prejudice". You must decide if any over-write
    of Windows is going to be compatible and stable and non-interfering in
    the many actions conducted. This applies to normal maintenance as well
    in disk clean ups and defragging, registry cleaning, volume error
    checks, and so on. It is also applies with "hang time" of the normal
    navigation now being re-routed through hackwares that in over-writing
    Windows are adding more short-cuts and other mappings. Generally, most
    hackwares are written by the 'good guy hacks' that are most times
    talented and create some real time savers for generally $20.00 that
    are really simple re-written and re-mapped short cuts to utilities
    that already exist in Windows - such as the Windows utilities of disk
    clean up, defrag of disks, history and temporary files clean up and so
    on. You can look at these in two ways. One, the person(s) are complete
    rip-offs taking advantage of the un-knowing public that most or all
    these are Windows utilities already in the computer - - - or two, that
    so what, they save the manual time and all the clicks and is worth
    that $20.00 to me for the convenience. The latter is generally the
    case and thank you for the creations ! Definite, generally safe, time
    savers. Those are the most common on the world web and many times
    there are genuine freeware ones that are not ad-driven popped up or
    bundled with any adware or spyware (working-freewares).

    However, there are also the "bad-guy hacks" which is really all that
    much malware is - including adware and spywares. These bad-hacks of
    course are written commands to do so and so as over-writing Windows
    commands externally to perform their malicious intent. Most times this
    bad "hackware" does interfere with Windows and Internet Explorer and
    makes things unstable until it is removed - immediately of course. So
    my comment is to really watch out on any hack software or utility you
    wish to install in your computer. There are perhaps many "wanabees"
    among good-guy hacks as software/utility writers/creators that are
    just not that talented yet obviously, when you may experience
    instability and freeze ups from their product. The simple way out is
    to uninstall and move on. However, many times a "thrifty software
    writer" will not include an uninstaller and the product is also
    lacking the language of writing it in to the > Control Panel > Add/
    Remove Programs for it to be uninstalled with a click. So there again,
    you must examine any 'hackware' package with "extreme prejudice" to
    avoid hassles.

    Below is an "over-write" hackware as example 'fresh off the presses'.
    This type is doing the actual real overwrite of the existing Windows
    and Internet Explorer in appearance and navigation. These are the
    worst danger to observe, as - if imperfect - are extremely unstable
    and loaded with all extra shortcut and display file and registry
    entries. There is absolutely nothing here implied by me about this
    product example below - but that it is a very good example for the
    purpose of the content of my message to owner/users of computers
    running the Windows Operating System with Internet Explorer. In other
    words, if a software or program or utility software is not from
    Microsoft as part of the included Windows System and is manipulating
    it for you - it is "hackware". Hack is simply the term loosely applied
    to a software writer and/or programmer that is able to write things
    externally to operate the Windows OS - a "hack".

    Hack - Definition:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_hacker
    "Academice hackers: In the Academic hacker culture, a computer hacker
    is a person who enjoys designing software and building programs with a
    sense for aesthetics and playful cleverness."

    EXAMPLE OF "HACKWARES"
    Vista Transformation Pack
    http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/fil...ml?tk=nl_Top10

    License Type: Free
    Price: Free
    Date Added: Nov 2006
    Operating Systems: Windows XP
    File Size: 30200KB
    Downloads Count: 76263

    Get the Vista look, but beware of hairy install.
    If you're just dying for the Vista look, and have the courage to deal
    with a scary installation, grab a copy of Vista Transformation Pack
    6.
    It makes XP look, feel, and to some extent, act like Vista using
    icons, themes, a docking bar, and a new clock. It uninstalls like any
    other application, but make sure to set a Restore Point just in case.
    Note: The installation on this program is tricky and not for those
    with a weak stomach. If you have problems feel free to contact the
    developer.

    Hi Jack This Utility (Hackware Warning) ....


    Hi Jack This Utility (Hackware Warning):
    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...utorial42.html

    BRIEF:
    "If you delete items that it shows, without knowing what they are, it
    can lead to other problems such as your Internet no longer working or
    problems with running Windows itself. You should also attempt to clean
    the Spyware/Hijacker/Trojan with all other methods before using
    HijackThis. If you allow HijackThis to remove entries before another
    removal tool scans your computer, the files from the Hijacker/Spyware
    will still be left on your computer and future removal tools will not
    be able to find them. "

    _________________
    *****Administrator, BlueCollarPCNet Forums*****
    http://bluecollarpc.net/phpbb2/index.php
    BLUE COLLAR PC TOOLBAR (freeware)
    http://bluecollarpc.communitytoolbars.com/

    HEY GET ****ED JERK OFF ....SAID THAT....THIS JUST WENT TO CONDUIT.COM
    WHOM I AM SURE WILL BE KNOKING ON YOUR DOOR IMMEDIATELY FAGGER


  5. #5
    Dustin Cook Guest

    Re: Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar

    cbgerry <cbgerry@bluecollarpc.net> wrote in
    news:1184540805.939299.161930@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com:

    > And this is your idea of reciprocity ? Which shows I am intelligent
    > and you are not ? Poor baby (yah yah yah yah yahyah gahgah) did some


    Radio Plug-In removed
    15/07/2007

    The radio plug-in has been removed from our toolbar to avoid contact with
    unknown websites (channels) and possible infection. SEE:
    http://bluecollarpc.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=403

    Is that the only reason you've removed it, or are you trying to evade
    BugHunter detection routines?

    I previously said you were an ******* for suggesting people to get the
    toolbar, and you admit it's now a security risk with atleast one of it's
    plug-ins. I rightfully detect that junk, and the next signature update
    will continue to protect users from your ignorance. I wonder what you'll
    suggest people do next, for "security". Sheesh.

    > HEY GET ****ED JERK OFF ....SAID THAT....THIS JUST WENT TO CONDUIT.COM
    > WHOM I AM SURE WILL BE KNOKING ON YOUR DOOR IMMEDIATELY FAGGER


    Bring it on.




    --
    Dustin Cook
    Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
    web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml


  6. #6
    cbgerry Guest

    Re: Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar

    On Jul 15, 9:36 pm, Dustin Cook
    <spamfilterineffect.see....@nowhere.com> wrote:
    > cbgerry <cbge...@bluecollarpc.net> wrote innews:1184540805.939299.161930@57g2000hsv.googleg roups.com:
    >
    > > And this is your idea of reciprocity ? Which shows I am intelligent
    > > and you are not ? Poor baby (yah yah yah yah yahyah gahgah) did some

    >
    > Radio Plug-In removed
    > 15/07/2007
    >
    > The radio plug-in has been removed from our toolbar to avoid contact with
    > unknown websites (channels) and possible infection. SEE:http://bluecollarpc.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=403
    >
    > Is that the only reason you've removed it, or are you trying to evade
    > BugHunter detection routines?
    >
    > I previously said you were an ******* for suggesting people to get the
    > toolbar, and you admit it's now a security risk with atleast one of it's
    > plug-ins. I rightfully detect that junk, and the next signature update
    > will continue to protect users from your ignorance. I wonder what you'll
    > suggest people do next, for "security". Sheesh.
    >
    > > HEY GET ****ED JERK OFF ....SAID THAT....THIS JUST WENT TO CONDUIT.COM
    > > WHOM I AM SURE WILL BE KNOKING ON YOUR DOOR IMMEDIATELY FAGGER

    >
    > Bring it on.
    >
    > --
    > Dustin Cook
    > Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    > email: bughunter.dus...@gmail.com.removethis
    > web..:http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    > Pad..:http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml


    You are full of it sir and this is a personal attack. There are over a
    million Conduit.com toolbars and mine is one of them. They are all the
    exact same thing including mine - so why did you pick mine out as the
    only one infected ??? It doesn't make sense. Again McAfee has stated
    there is absolutely no infection in "bluecollarpc" community toolbar.
    Now when I get personally attacked that was how I responded - earlier
    deleted message.

    So my civil question is why did you pick my toolbar out that is
    exactly the same exact for user name as one million plus of the same
    exact toolbar from the same exact creator and server - Conduit.com ?

    In other words Conduit.com offers these free toolbars to anyone and
    there have been over a million created. Each user that creates one can
    pick out of there services any of a large handful of features to add
    to it. There is absolutely nothing the user can add personally into
    the toolbar such as malware in what ever - script code language
    whatever. So if every one of these toolbars are exactly the same thing
    except for user name and what they chose to be their features add-ins
    - then what are you saying ? You are only getting malware positives on
    my toolbar ? That is absurd. There would be over a million hits for
    the malware because it would be in over a million toolbars and come
    from Conduit.com.

    What are you saying ? The bluecollarpc toolbar from Conduit.com is the
    only one you found with malware in it ??? For me this is completely
    absurd and I reacted to being singled out of over a million people
    with the same product none of us created. If you have a report then I
    suggest you have filed it with Conduit.com - not me. I did not create
    it. I fail to see your "professionalism" in this matter. Apparently
    you are that lacking as to have come across your very first
    Conduit.com Free Community Toolbar and assumed it was a creation by
    the webmaster of the BlueCollarPC.Net. This is what was absurd - to be
    charged by you like this.

    Your charges against me would be the same thing as a worm affecting
    the Yahoo Groups Service - and then blame me for it as the Group Owner
    of BlueCollarPC.Net News Group. This is absurd. Same thing, there are
    thousands upon thousands of Yahoo Groups - free - created by thousands
    and thousands of individuals. Again ther, there is nothing the user
    can put into the Yahoo Groups except choice of features provided by
    Yahoo.

    Do you understand my points ? Would that help as an aplogy for the
    rage reply ? Or do you hold onto I am guilty of some malware
    insertion ? I can accept your answer either way... I mean it would
    seem you obviously tested the download I am guessing. Of course I
    would suggest you create your own as a webmaster and then test that.
    If the malware hits are not the same then I could obviously observe
    your findings then and I would immedaitely remove the bluecollarpc
    free toolbar from the Internet and tell all users the same -
    immedaitely uninstall it.

    You see you have opened a great can of worms here - and as far as some
    real unresolved issues - that can involve having my websites shut down
    as malicious content websites in Violations Of Terms Of Service.

    Let me say that I am a simple consumer. I qualify myself as an
    Advanced User (Windows). I am completely non-commercial. The best I
    can offer your comments is that I downloaded the toolbar after I chose
    its name and features and it was ready at Conduit.com for download. At
    the time I was running Trend Micro Antispyware and Webroot Spysweeper.
    There were absolutely no indications of malware with the toolbar
    installed and running on both Internet Explorer and then I installed
    the Firefox version. No indications of malware. I did scans and as
    well there are absolutely no indications of infection as far as
    antivirus softwares. So as far as Webroot, Trend Micro, Clam, AVG are
    concerned oh, and McAfee Site Advisor, there is no such thing as any
    malware infection in the bluecollarpc free toolbar.

    For the statements you made and how they would appear qualified - I am
    the LAST person you would notifiy about your opinion of any malware
    infection in my toolbar - my, because I am the user-owner of it by
    user account. Your reports would be assumed to have been made with all
    the big names - many were here. Have you made any infection reports ?
    What were the results ? You mean you haven't put your money where your
    mouth and made infection reports ? I am sorrry but I have never heard
    of you as far as any independent Testing Lab - are you one ? Why would
    you be contacting me ? Have you contacted any other "user creators" of
    Conduit.com Community Toolbars ? Why Not ?

    I mean if you have any grit - yopu certainly understand all the
    implications here and this is just the tip of the iceberg need I say
    more ? You are quite welcome to HELP out by joining any of our Groups
    or Forums or all to discuss this in full to achieve some remedy. This
    would be on the "professional" side of things naturally because you
    are "titled" and I could not speak to you in any other manner than a
    professional courtesy because there are names made everyday so to
    speak in the security industry. What I am suggesting here is that you
    may be one of them and your discovery can simply NOT go unnoticed
    obviously. I would respect everything you say in this manner at my
    groups is a promise. Here (news group) we know anything flaky is
    immediately deemed as a Troll and slammed ummercifully. That was my
    original response - and let's hope not deservedly so.

    I am trying to think right off hand of the virus board (very famous)
    where reports are received.... ahhh VirusTotal.com and of course all
    quality spyware softwares have website forms to report infection. I am
    wandering why you brought this to me first and not them. THAT is very,
    very "unprofessional" and because of that demanded the response I
    made. 'Nuff said ? If you are genuinely interested in the pc and
    online security of all of the community of computer users as I am -
    then I expect to hear some immediate results from on our behalf....
    'till then

    Gerald Founds, Philadelphia PA USA
    Webmaster BlueCollarPC.Net BlueCollarPC.Org and all associated groups,
    forums, and lists respective owner.

    You know where I live on the Net. Be there ! My apologies, I regret
    earlier communications as very childish perhaps. See you soon I will
    help with your reports.


  7. #7
    Dustin Cook Guest

    Re: Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar

    cbgerry <cbgerry@bluecollarpc.net> wrote in
    news:1184589318.719205.5580@57g2000hsv.googlegroup s.com:

    > You are full of it sir and this is a personal attack. There are over a
    > million Conduit.com toolbars and mine is one of them. They are all the


    Indeed conduit has a large amount of rebranded toolbars around. Yours is
    one of them, several others I believe are also known to BugHunter. They
    are added based on when I recieve viable samples. In your case, since you
    advertise it, I visited your site and downloaded it, Installed it via
    firefox and IE using sandboxie, so I could see exactly what changes it
    makes.

    > exact same thing including mine - so why did you pick mine out as the
    > only one infected ??? It doesn't make sense. Again McAfee has stated


    Please see above. I really don't pick and choose. The targets are
    selected based on samples I recieve and what they do.

    > there is absolutely no infection in "bluecollarpc" community toolbar.



    BugHunter doesn't look for infections, as viruses cause those.
    Spyware/adware/keyloggers are really all trojans, and BugHunter does
    detect some of them. The toolbar itself is classified by me as
    Adware/trackware. It poses a security risk for the following reasons.

    1. It transfers "anonymous" usage data back to conduit.com; this data
    stream is actually encrypted, so who knows what it really sends to them.

    2. The radio option as you noticed is a security risk, you don't have
    control over the sites it's tied too.

    3. The other plugins don't always communicate strickly with your server
    either.

    4. The company which actually produces the code inside the toolbar still
    employs questionable business practices.

    5. Officially, because the toolbar actually installs itself as an
    extension, and not as a plugin, is against the mozilla foundation rules.
    Your toolbar generates income for conduit based on what users search for.
    If they click a result, conduit gets paid. They are leeching off of
    firefox users. What you click is apparently "anonymously" tracked back to
    conduit. Anonymous only serving to mean that it can't be tied to the
    specific computer your using... Atleast, I don't know of any exploits yet
    which would allow that with this program.

    > Now when I get personally attacked that was how I responded - earlier
    > deleted message.


    I didn't personally attack you, aside from calling you an idiot.

    > So my civil question is why did you pick my toolbar out that is
    > exactly the same exact for user name as one million plus of the same
    > exact toolbar from the same exact creator and server - Conduit.com ?


    Reasons for including it provided above. You were not singled out, Your
    toolbar was easy to get access too, and I did as any normal user would do
    who's curious. I downloaded it and analyzed it. When I noticed it's
    actually conduits work, rebranded, red flags went up.

    > In other words Conduit.com offers these free toolbars to anyone and
    > there have been over a million created. Each user that creates one can


    That's right. Over a million variants of the software, passed along to
    unsuspecting users who simply don't know any better.

    > pick out of there services any of a large handful of features to add
    > to it. There is absolutely nothing the user can add personally into
    > the toolbar such as malware in what ever - script code language
    > whatever. So if every one of these toolbars are exactly the same thing


    Not true, sir. Your extension installation for firefox can be
    edited/altered easily. In fact, it's javascript when installed for
    firefox, and an actual DLL when used in IE. The supporting plugins are,
    java scripts with xml configuration files. Very easy to expand upon.

    > except for user name and what they chose to be their features add-ins
    > - then what are you saying ? You are only getting malware positives on


    See above.

    > Your charges against me would be the same thing as a worm affecting
    > the Yahoo Groups Service - and then blame me for it as the Group Owner
    > of BlueCollarPC.Net News Group. This is absurd. Same thing, there are


    I haven't made any charges against you, directly. I don't recommend
    people make use of your toolbar, for the reasons I stated above. That
    doesn't mean I don't recommend you, as I am neutral (or try to be) as far
    as your informational providing is concerned. I disagree with the
    majority of your posts, but alas, that's my right to do so, and your
    right to post the material I think is nonsense.

    > thousands upon thousands of Yahoo Groups - free - created by thousands
    > and thousands of individuals. Again ther, there is nothing the user
    > can put into the Yahoo Groups except choice of features provided by
    > Yahoo.


    Agreed, with yahoo groups. Your toolbar however isn't yahoo groups, and
    certainly can be altered once installed.

    > Do you understand my points ? Would that help as an aplogy for the
    > rage reply ? Or do you hold onto I am guilty of some malware


    You don't owe me any apology. You weren't very professional in your
    previous correspondence with me, but I understand why. I really didn't
    target you, I targetted software that I don't think you should be
    inviting users to download. BugHunter doesn't automatically remove it,
    unless the users tells it to do so, so in the end, the user still has the
    final say in whether or not it lives or dies.

    > insertion ? I can accept your answer either way... I mean it would
    > seem you obviously tested the download I am guessing. Of course I


    No guessing required. I'm a programmer, testing/analyzing/writing code is
    something I do. I even surf myspace on purpose looking for new
    samples. *grin*

    > your findings then and I would immedaitely remove the bluecollarpc
    > free toolbar from the Internet and tell all users the same -
    > immedaitely uninstall it.


    Your site is about security, and I understand your desire to help users.
    You can start by removing the toolbar, and suggesting users uninstall it.
    No security site in it's right mind would be asking users to download and
    install any sort of toolbar.

    I'm not asking you to accept/admit any fault. As a precautionary measure,
    if nothing else, I'm asking you to remove the toolbar and suggest your
    userbase do the same. I have filled out an account on your forums,
    Hopefully you will allow it to go thru, and we can discuss this further
    if you'd like. You can also email me at the email address I left on your
    site. I know you hate google, and apparently yahoo, but those are what I
    use for email corresponce and I have for a very very long time. Please
    excuse the addresses in my case, if you don't mind.

    > You see you have opened a great can of worms here - and as far as some
    > real unresolved issues - that can involve having my websites shut down
    > as malicious content websites in Violations Of Terms Of Service.


    I have no intention of trying to have your website shutdown. Your not
    actually hosting the toolbar yourself, so you don't have to worry about
    that anyway.

    > Let me say that I am a simple consumer. I qualify myself as an
    > Advanced User (Windows). I am completely non-commercial. The best I
    > can offer your comments is that I downloaded the toolbar after I chose
    > its name and features and it was ready at Conduit.com for download. At


    I would agree with your assessment. I strongly disagree with some of your
    editorials and I'll be happy to debate them on you forum openly, with
    your permission of course. I figured you checked out the toolbar, saw
    it's potential to increase traffic and started recommending it. Somehow,
    you noticed the radio plugin has issues and have since disabled that, as
    a precautionary measure, if nothing else, while admitting no fault
    whatsoever, please remove the toolbar. If you already found one plugin
    with potential risk, why place your users at continued risk?

    > the time I was running Trend Micro Antispyware and Webroot Spysweeper.
    > There were absolutely no indications of malware with the toolbar
    > installed and running on both Internet Explorer and then I installed
    > the Firefox version. No indications of malware. I did scans and as


    As you should know, and if not, you do now, no program regardless of it's
    free/commercial status catches everything. Malware is released at an
    alarming rate by farms which basically xmit the same thing, slightly
    modified.

    > well there are absolutely no indications of infection as far as
    > antivirus softwares. So as far as Webroot, Trend Micro, Clam, AVG are
    > concerned oh, and McAfee Site Advisor, there is no such thing as any
    > malware infection in the bluecollarpc free toolbar.


    The toolbar itself allows for 3rd party things to be installed,
    potentially without user consent. The toolbar can easily be modified by a
    user or another party, and this too is a security risk issue.

    > For the statements you made and how they would appear qualified - I am
    > the LAST person you would notifiy about your opinion of any malware
    > infection in my toolbar - my, because I am the user-owner of it by
    > user account. Your reports would be assumed to have been made with all


    Actually, I always try to contact the author of a program I'm checking
    out, to see if my findings match theres or if they can explain why it
    does this or that. I did this in your case by creating an account the
    other day. You deleted it?

    > the big names - many were here. Have you made any infection reports ?
    > What were the results ? You mean you haven't put your money where your


    Those big names you like to toss around are automated scanning sites, I
    use them myself. A human doesn't at the time of your submittal examine
    it. Eventually, some av researchers will get there hands on the sample,
    but until then, it's all good according to the automated systems.

    You should *not* ever assume that if you get no hits for malware by
    submitting them that the file really is safe.

    > mouth and made infection reports ? I am sorrry but I have never heard
    > of you as far as any independent Testing Lab - are you one ? Why would


    I'm not a lab. I'm a reformed virus writer. I used to write the "bad
    stuff". heh.

    > you be contacting me ? Have you contacted any other "user creators" of
    > Conduit.com Community Toolbars ? Why Not ?


    I have tried to contact you, in email and by creating an account on your
    forum. I have contacted authors of various other things which I detect.
    I've even contacted PcButts over his pirated scripts.

    > I mean if you have any grit - yopu certainly understand all the
    > implications here and this is just the tip of the iceberg need I say


    No implications that I can see. Your concerned for your site, and you
    have no reason to be alarmed. Nobody is trying to take you to court or
    have you shutdown. I'm simply trying to make you understand, hopefully,
    that this toolbar is a bad idea. Your a security site, don't provide
    risks to your users.

    > more ? You are quite welcome to HELP out by joining any of our Groups
    > or Forums or all to discuss this in full to achieve some remedy. This


    I have created another account today, the name of which is Raid. I'd be
    happy to post on your groups and explain the situation if this hasn't for
    you. I have no personal issues with you yourself, I do however, disagree
    with several of your posts on your forum and I'd like to discuss those as
    well. Security is an important task, and I'm glad your interested in
    helping people, it's good of you. It would be even better if the
    information you provided was more accurate, and I would be glad to help
    you in this respect.

    > may be one of them and your discovery can simply NOT go unnoticed
    > obviously. I would respect everything you say in this manner at my
    > groups is a promise. Here (news group) we know anything flaky is
    > immediately deemed as a Troll and slammed ummercifully. That was my
    > original response - and let's hope not deservedly so.


    A troll I'm not, as you will learn.

    > I am trying to think right off hand of the virus board (very famous)
    > where reports are received.... ahhh VirusTotal.com and of course all
    > quality spyware softwares have website forms to report infection. I am
    > wandering why you brought this to me first and not them. THAT is very,
    > very "unprofessional" and because of that demanded the response I


    I have tried to bring my findings to your attention privately. I was
    actually hoping we could get this removed and not really make a big deal
    out of it. Everybody learns, you know? Conduit has been contacted
    numerous times by various companies over this toolbar of theres.

    > made. 'Nuff said ? If you are genuinely interested in the pc and
    > online security of all of the community of computer users as I am -
    > then I expect to hear some immediate results from on our behalf....
    > 'till then


    Indeed I am. BugHunter is my little way of giving back for some of the
    harm I caused.

    > You know where I live on the Net. Be there ! My apologies, I regret
    > earlier communications as very childish perhaps. See you soon I will
    > help with your reports.


    I'm looking forward to a decent dialogue with you, sir.

    --
    Dustin Cook
    Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
    web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml


  8. #8
    cbgerry Guest

    Re: Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar

    On Jul 16, 10:23 pm, Dustin Cook
    <spamfilterineffect.see....@nowhere.com> wrote:
    > cbgerry <cbge...@bluecollarpc.net> wrote innews:1184589318.719205.5580@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com:
    >
    > > You are full of it sir and this is a personal attack. There are over a
    > > million Conduit.com toolbars and mine is one of them. They are all the

    >
    > Indeed conduit has a large amount of rebranded toolbars around. Yours is
    > one of them, several others I believe are also known to BugHunter. They
    > are added based on when I recieve viable samples. In your case, since you
    > advertise it, I visited your site and downloaded it, Installed it via
    > firefox and IE using sandboxie, so I could see exactly what changes it
    > makes.
    >
    > > exact same thing including mine - so why did you pick mine out as the
    > > only one infected ??? It doesn't make sense. Again McAfee has stated

    >
    > Please see above. I really don't pick and choose. The targets are
    > selected based on samples I recieve and what they do.
    >
    > > there is absolutely no infection in "bluecollarpc" community toolbar.

    >
    > BugHunter doesn't look for infections, as viruses cause those.
    > Spyware/adware/keyloggers are really all trojans, and BugHunter does
    > detect some of them. The toolbar itself is classified by me as
    > Adware/trackware. It poses a security risk for the following reasons.
    >
    > 1. It transfers "anonymous" usage data back to conduit.com; this data
    > stream is actually encrypted, so who knows what it really sends to them.
    >
    > 2. The radio option as you noticed is a security risk, you don't have
    > control over the sites it's tied too.
    >
    > 3. The other plugins don't always communicate strickly with your server
    > either.
    >
    > 4. The company which actually produces the code inside the toolbar still
    > employs questionable business practices.
    >
    > 5. Officially, because the toolbar actually installs itself as an
    > extension, and not as a plugin, is against the mozilla foundation rules.
    > Your toolbar generates income for conduit based on what users search for.
    > If they click a result, conduit gets paid. They are leeching off of
    > firefox users. What you click is apparently "anonymously" tracked back to
    > conduit. Anonymous only serving to mean that it can't be tied to the
    > specific computer your using... Atleast, I don't know of any exploits yet
    > which would allow that with this program.
    >
    > > Now when I get personally attacked that was how I responded - earlier
    > > deleted message.

    >
    > I didn't personally attack you, aside from calling you an idiot.
    >
    > > So my civil question is why did you pick my toolbar out that is
    > > exactly the same exact for user name as one million plus of the same
    > > exact toolbar from the same exact creator and server - Conduit.com ?

    >
    > Reasons for including it provided above. You were not singled out, Your
    > toolbar was easy to get access too, and I did as any normal user would do
    > who's curious. I downloaded it and analyzed it. When I noticed it's
    > actually conduits work, rebranded, red flags went up.
    >
    > > In other words Conduit.com offers these free toolbars to anyone and
    > > there have been over a million created. Each user that creates one can

    >
    > That's right. Over a million variants of the software, passed along to
    > unsuspecting users who simply don't know any better.
    >
    > > pick out of there services any of a large handful of features to add
    > > to it. There is absolutely nothing the user can add personally into
    > > the toolbar such as malware in what ever - script code language
    > > whatever. So if every one of these toolbars are exactly the same thing

    >
    > Not true, sir. Your extension installation for firefox can be
    > edited/altered easily. In fact, it's javascript when installed for
    > firefox, and an actual DLL when used in IE. The supporting plugins are,
    > java scripts with xml configuration files. Very easy to expand upon.
    >
    > > except for user name and what they chose to be their features add-ins
    > > - then what are you saying ? You are only getting malware positives on

    >
    > See above.
    >
    > > Your charges against me would be the same thing as a worm affecting
    > > the Yahoo Groups Service - and then blame me for it as the Group Owner
    > > of BlueCollarPC.Net News Group. This is absurd. Same thing, there are

    >
    > I haven't made any charges against you, directly. I don't recommend
    > people make use of your toolbar, for the reasons I stated above. That
    > doesn't mean I don't recommend you, as I am neutral (or try to be) as far
    > as your informational providing is concerned. I disagree with the
    > majority of your posts, but alas, that's my right to do so, and your
    > right to post the material I think is nonsense.
    >
    > > thousands upon thousands of Yahoo Groups - free - created by thousands
    > > and thousands of individuals. Again ther, there is nothing the user
    > > can put into the Yahoo Groups except choice of features provided by
    > > Yahoo.

    >
    > Agreed, with yahoo groups. Your toolbar however isn't yahoo groups, and
    > certainly can be altered once installed.
    >
    > > Do you understand my points ? Would that help as an aplogy for the
    > > rage reply ? Or do you hold onto I am guilty of some malware

    >
    > You don't owe me any apology. You weren't very professional in your
    > previous correspondence with me, but I understand why. I really didn't
    > target you, I targetted software that I don't think you should be
    > inviting users to download. BugHunter doesn't automatically remove it,
    > unless the users tells it to do so, so in the end, the user still has the
    > final say in whether or not it lives or dies.
    >
    > > insertion ? I can accept your answer either way... I mean it would
    > > seem you obviously tested the download I am guessing. Of course I

    >
    > No guessing required. I'm a programmer, testing/analyzing/writing code is
    > something I do. I even surf myspace on purpose looking for new
    > samples. *grin*
    >
    > > your findings then and I would immedaitely remove the bluecollarpc
    > > free toolbar from the Internet and tell all users the same -
    > > immedaitely uninstall it.

    >
    > Your site is about security, and I understand your desire to help users.
    > You can start by removing the toolbar, and suggesting users uninstall it.
    > No security site in it's right mind would be asking users to download and
    > install any sort of toolbar.
    >
    > I'm not asking you to accept/admit any fault. As a precautionary measure,
    > if nothing else, I'm asking you to remove the toolbar and suggest your
    > userbase do the same. I have filled out an account on your forums,
    > Hopefully you will allow it to go thru, and we can discuss this further
    > if you'd like. You can also email me at the email address I left on your
    > site. I know you hate google, and apparently yahoo, but those are what I
    > use for email corresponce and I have for a very very long time. Please
    > excuse the addresses in my case, if you don't mind.
    >
    > > You see you have opened a great can of worms here - and as far as some
    > > real unresolved issues - that can involve having my websites shut down
    > > as malicious content websites in Violations Of Terms Of Service.

    >
    > I have no intention of trying to have your website shutdown. Your not
    > actually hosting the toolbar yourself, so you don't have to worry about
    > that anyway.
    >
    > > Let me say that I am a simple consumer. I qualify myself as an
    > > Advanced User (Windows). I am completely non-commercial. The best I
    > > can offer your comments is that I downloaded the toolbar after I chose
    > > its name and features and it was ready at Conduit.com for download. At

    >
    > I would agree with your assessment. I strongly disagree with some of your
    > editorials and I'll be happy to debate them on you forum openly, with
    > your permission of course. I figured you checked out the toolbar, saw
    > it's potential to increase traffic and started recommending it. Somehow,
    > you noticed the radio plugin has issues and have since disabled that, as
    > a precautionary measure, if nothing else, while admitting no fault
    > whatsoever, please remove the toolbar. If you already found one plugin
    > with potential risk, why place your users at continued risk?
    >
    > > the time I was running Trend Micro Antispyware and Webroot Spysweeper.
    > > There were absolutely no indications of malware with the toolbar
    > > installed and running on both Internet Explorer and then I installed
    > > the Firefox version. No indications of malware. I did scans and as

    >
    > As you should know, and if not, you do now, no program regardless of it's
    > free/commercial status catches everything. Malware is released at an
    > alarming rate by farms which basically xmit the same thing, slightly
    > modified.
    >
    > > well there are absolutely no indications of infection as far as
    > > antivirus softwares. So as far as Webroot, Trend Micro, Clam, AVG are
    > > concerned oh, and McAfee Site Advisor, there is no such thing as any
    > > malware infection in the bluecollarpc free toolbar.

    >
    > The toolbar itself allows for 3rd party things to be installed,
    > potentially without user consent. The toolbar can easily be modified by a
    > user or another party, and this too is a security risk issue.
    >
    > > For the statements you made and how they would appear qualified - I am
    > > the LAST person you would notifiy about your opinion of any malware
    > > infection in my toolbar - my, because I am the user-owner of it by
    > > user account. Your reports would be assumed to have been made with all

    >
    > Actually, I always try to contact the author of a program I'm checking
    > out, to see if my findings match theres or if they can explain why it
    > does this or that. I did this in your case by creating an account the
    > other day. You deleted it?
    >
    > > the big names - many were here. Have you made any infection reports ?
    > > What were the results ? You mean you haven't put your money where your

    >
    > Those big names you like to toss around are automated scanning sites, I
    > use them myself. A human doesn't at the time of your submittal examine
    > it. Eventually, some av researchers will get there hands on the sample,
    > but until then, it's all good according to the automated systems.
    >
    > You should *not* ever assume that if you get no hits for malware by
    > submitting them that the file really is safe.
    >
    >
    >
    > > mouth and made infection reports ? I am sorrry but I have never heard
    > > of you as far as any

    >
    > ...
    >
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    >
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    Preface: I don't think it was plain to the apparent owner of Bughunter
    that the previous posts that Site Advisor calls Red Download site
    warnings are certainly not the owner home domain - Dustin Cook
    Bughunter. I thought that was quite clear to any reader - it is to me.
    So here to avoid the confusion perhaps even caused by Dustin C
    clouding the content of those posts seemingly - or perhaps even a
    little "snow blind" in anger for the moment not seeing that NONE of
    those Red Download sites were his Home Domain as Bughunter Owner
    commonly or public well known as Bughunter at bughunter.it-
    mate.co.uk ......

    So here is the actual 'All Green Download" McAfee Site Advisor Report
    - For Dustin Cook Bughunter - the real Owner and Real Bughunter
    Product Homepages or Official Bughunter website - however you wish to
    word it - or in real world, right, Dustin Cook owner of Bughunter and
    the bughunter.it-mate.co.uk official domain website "where bughunter
    lives on the net" - the Official real Bughunter and real Website to
    obtain it from. (I call that explanation dead banged). It is obvious
    to anyone reading it. Like one report is even the download
    "registered" at Snapfiles.com - so that is what I mean as obvious to
    anyone reading it.... like the first thing that hits me there is okay,
    the owner must have registered with Snapfiles to sell, distribute, or
    offer whatever version of download, whatever descriptive words are
    your cup of tea accurately, but that certainly that is OBVIOUSLY not
    the bughunter.it-mate.co.uk website. It is the software download at
    Snapfiles.com and not at bughunter.it-mate.co.uk in other words. Each
    of those RED warning download sites are along the same exact line.

    You (if you are reading this) Dustin C are a very aggressive person
    apparently and it is extremely hard to have a civil conversation with
    you. You do say a lot of incorrect things about me and curse like a
    sailor continually. This is offensive and angering. That is irritating
    in the internet setting because of some major calm here. Well, right,
    to each his own. I am use to the "Family Setting" protocols around at
    different places. My cup of tea. But let me finalize as saying I can
    appreciate your great effort to go out of your way to continually slam
    me as you and I - the Prince and the pauper. Your never have seemed to
    leave that out in any of our very brief communications. Orderlys don't
    hang out with Doctors, fair enough - we certainly don't "hang" -
    street jargon.

    All I can say is you sir, Dustin C, invite chapters. Have you heard
    that before ? ( I am just ranting , not expecting answers, I think you
    misunderstand too much the "underclass").

    Well I am thinking I can add here what I came to say - because
    everything below this is information not conversation. I'll try
    list...

    1) Your final observation about the toolbar is "Potential Danger".
    2) You are responsible to yourself for copyright violations and
    unauthorized distribution of software you own. I suggest you call your
    lawyer about these. I certainly am not to blame. They are. Get angry
    with them. Have their websites shut down. Have your software
    immediately removed from them. Call your Lawyer about that Mr. Cook.I
    mean I would. The point is a security software is being offered at -
    apparently according to McAfee Site Advisor - at malicious content
    websites. Do you really want your product associated with that ? Have
    you - or are they authorized by your permission to distribute your
    Bughunter ? I mean you see the results by a simple Google Search with
    Site Advisor and how outraged you are at the mere mention of that by
    me. You exploded. Do it to them. They are the cause of this. I am not
    the cause of the public warnings from Site Advisor that are quite
    public on the internet. First couple of pages of results and there you
    are bang, bang, bang 3 red ones. I mean that in the business / profit
    aspect - and then just change it to freeware then... don't be so
    stringent in interpretation. This is how it appears you are greatly
    misunderstanding what is being said - at least on the side of common
    folk. Actually I / we were offering some help, but you stormed past.
    These are the reasons I suddenly blocked membership. I am not getting
    paid for this. This is not something I can change. I am not going to
    have my Forum turned into the Bughunter Soap Opera - roughly making
    the point. (You just don't understand the away I talk). In other words
    I am guessing the well known for years traditional Hackers Lounge is
    "your flavor" as they say over in Linux world. I am a medium -
    disseminating information if you will. Actually, threats removal with
    any software is a learning curve for the public. I am just one
    volunteer for average consumerism trying to bridge the gap. You
    actually need to be an "Advanced User" to actually understand and do
    things correctly without someone worrying over your back. I call it
    'Computer Operator" at their "Station" like having a driver's license
    for a Novice their first day behind the wheel. This is who stops in
    over my way. And granted, this topic should be a part of the
    repertoire as just another vein in the massive place called
    cyberspace. So the point was with these type topics - it is quite
    necessary for days and days even to resolve things. It can take a lot
    of communications. That is what was referred to as the Soap Opera....
    that is what this looks like to the average consumer. The average
    consumer is extremely pressed for an hour maybe two at a session and
    not even on a regular basis as well. Threatwares mess that up bad and
    what is worst, trying to find information of how to take care of it
    immediately. The majority of people are in a great hurry on the Net -
    and that is my reference to long needed conversations being
    sarcastically as a "What's this Soap Opera? Let me out of here".. like
    I said you severely misunderstand what I say. You completely judge me
    wrongly it seems continually or maybe you are just mean spirited.
    Whatever... and now this is turning into a soap opera. Cahnge
    Channels.

    3) Let me floor this to important information I wished to say as a
    bottom line here... So the whole rest of this point is that a sleeping
    public may not know the other angles to all this. As far as the Red
    zones - there are now in alarming numbers what are called "Disposable
    Domains". The spammer yesterday may have opened a free yahoo account
    and started sending UCE (spam) until Yahoo caught them and closed the
    account without warning. Right back to Yahoo and they would just open
    another account until shut down until they finally earned the name in
    security as "Disposable accounts". This has obviously translated to
    Botherders today reportedly responsible for up to 70 percent or more
    of world UCE (spam). This is now a new name "Disposable Domains"
    whereby at the same attitude websites are opened and shut down like
    the old example of Yahoo email accounts. Point is that with pirated
    software or Unauthorized Use someone's software can suddenly appear at
    one of these Disposable Domains and the cyber criminals can add
    malicious content to the website for drive-by installations of malware
    and the worst can even rifle a pirated copy of software and relaunch
    it with adware, spyware, and or other malware or all together and more
    at the Disposable Domain site.... and we all know how irate that is
    going to make the owner of the original software to say the very
    least.

    4) .... Cut to the chase point is that the Red Zone listed sites can
    easily be this in the McAfee Site Advisor Reports. So that I said all
    of this to point out that out if missed and that what may have been
    missed ORIGINALLY is that Dustin Cook Bughunter bughunter.it-
    mate.co.uk DOES NOT appear as a "red download" warning at McAfee Site
    Advisor and below I have added that proof that is quite public and
    available to the public with a download of Site Advisor installed in
    Internet Explorer or Firefox browsers.

    I think this should be plain, and definitely accepted as truth:
    ----------------------------------------
    Site Advisor:Green Download BUGHUNTERbughunter.it-mate.co.uk ...

    Site Advisor Report On: All Green Download...
    http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/it-...earch&aff_id=0

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    BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool
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    updated database of signatures as well as engine updates. The program
    is designed to quickly ...
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    SiteAdvisor: the Web, tested.
    Look up a site report:
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    [ps u betta hope u donn pay fer dhis: "Potential Danger" is my
    apology. I am now reading everything I posted to see if I ever said
    quite literally what you accuse me of. Wait for it - I will make one
    last post. If I did not I will say so. Frankly your communications are
    too repulsive and I wished this closed immediately. One of your last
    posts Dustin - you are lying again. You are not blocked from
    communicating with my Official Webmaster Address to Request Removal of
    Offensive Material. Ask your lawyer about that - because He/She is
    required by Law under the Federal Trade Commission to do that to
    achieve what you are saying - or aren't? No, I do not answer hostility
    and abuse at my personal addresses. And no I don't answer Unsolicited
    Email as rule. Webmaster and Postmaster are NOT personal addresses.
    You have said some very cheap things about my email addresses that was
    quite unexpected and may be beyond your understanding. Like I said you
    talk to your lawyer and he will tell you that you have to be VERY
    SPECIFIC WORD FOR WORD WITH EXACT PARTICULARS you "claim" are
    "offensive" and demand to be removed WITH EXACT CAUSE AND SUPPORT
    THEREOF and can or can not be submitted to the WEBMASTER ADDRESS by
    just yourself or with can be with Assistance of Counsel which
    precludes Court Action if ignored. THAT IS THE LAW DUSTIN COOK. I am
    not trying to be anything but polite with you. You keep raging and
    raging. I don't understand to be quite honest. Like they say in the
    circles - "generally just write the webmaster with your objections and
    some brief easy reports to support them and the webmaster generally
    always complies immediately without legal actions required but
    indicated if needed. They will get the message fast if they value
    their domain (most all do)". May you please comply. I honestly do not
    understand what you are saying as apparently incohesive. I am now - in
    these next hours looking at EVERYTHING I posted for what is offensive
    and especially under the law as you keep saying. This is on your
    behalf Dustin Cook Bughunter - in lieu of common appropriate action by
    you. Do you understand so I am not misunderstood Mr. Cook ? You have
    made no "formal request for removal" of objectionable material and I
    will certainly add in apology if there is due per investigation right
    now. DO YOU UNDERSTAND MR.COOK ? I AM GOING TO ACT ON YOUR BEHALF
    RIGHT NOW AS ACTING AS IF YOU SENT ME A BILL OF PARTICULARS YOU WISH
    REMEDIED IMMEDIATELY OR LEGAL ACTION WILL PURSUE --- SO THAT WITHOUT
    SUPPORT OF SAME, LISTED, OR PRESENTED BY YOU PROPERLY PARTICULARLY
    LISTING ONE BY ONE BY LAW TO ASK FIRST AND PROSECUTE SECOND (BUT YOU
    SIT HERE LYING THAT YOUR ADDRESS IS BLOCKED - YOU HAVE NEVER CONTACTED
    THE BLUE COLLAR PC.NET WEBMASTER ADDRESS) --- I WILL ACT AS IF YOU
    PROPERLY PRESENTED AND ASSUME BILL OF PARTICULARS ARE - AND LOOK FOR
    - ANY POSTINGS OR STATEMENTS THAT DEFAME "DUSTIN COOK BUGHUNTER
    bughunter.it-mate.co.uk" MADE BY THE OWNER OF THE BLUE COLLAR PC .NET
    DOMAIN BE REMOVED IF AND WHERE POSSIBLE IF THEY EXIST - AND
    IMMEDIATELY - AS CEASE AND DESIST OR FACE LEGAL ACTION..... DO YOU
    UNDERSTAND MY - I SAID MY - GENOROSITY TO YOU ? ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. THIS
    IS NO GAME AS YOU SAID, OR IS IT ??? WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM ???

    IF NONE ARE FOUND YOU WILL LIKELY BE ANSWERING AS WELL TO YOUR
    SEMANTICS WITH "Potential Danger". AND I WELL KNOW YOU PERFECTLY
    UNDERSTAND THAT.

    GOOD BY MR. COOK - I WILL BE IN TOUCH WITHIN 24 HOURS OF THIS POSTING
    WITH FULL RESULTS FOR YOU .... SATISFACTORY ? ASK YOUR LAWYER -
    HONESTLY I DOUBT HE WOULD SAY DIFFERENT - VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY
    MR.COOK.

    BLUECOLLARPC.NET


  9. #9
    cbgerry Guest

    Re: Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar

    On Jul 13, 8:14 pm, Dustin Cook
    <spamfilterineffect.see....@nowhere.com> wrote:
    > Hi All,
    >
    > After closely examining the toolbar offered by bluecollarpc.net, I'm left
    > with no choice but to include it for detection and optional removal by the
    > user due to the fact it's using a known adware/trackware companies product
    > that's simply rebranded.
    >
    > As of today, 07-13-2007, BugHunter detects this program and both known
    > variants of it, one which affects firefox via an extensions installation
    > and the other which affects Internet Explorer via a BHO installation.
    >
    > Based on information collected on the company actually responsible for most
    > of the code present inside, I'd recommend others follow suit.
    >
    > Thank You.
    >
    > --
    > Dustin Cook
    > Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    > email: bughunter.dus...@gmail.com.removethis
    > web..:http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    > Pad..:http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml


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    cbgerry Guest

    Re: Interesting information bluecollarpc.net's toolbar

    One point here is that you do not name the infection ? 2-Spyware.com
    is "rebranded" and off of the offender's lists. What was your point -
    that like 2-Spyware.com is once bad always bad ??? Meaning apply to
    the toolbar former owner and new owner. You see you are not giving up
    any results whatsoever which is neccessary for any sane person to
    believe anything you are talking about.

    Nothing personal but -- ""Dustin Cook Author of BugHunter - MalWare
    Removal Tool "" is just not the "Security Savior" of the world web
    whereas Kapersky, Norton, and Webroot are. This is the problem... it
    is tooooo hard to believe that you personally have the only
    antimalware utility in the world that detects malware with the
    "bluecollarpc toolbar" and the others do not. Any Comments ???


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