Ad-Aware 2007

[History Fan]

I just installed Ad-Aware 2007. Slightly different interface, and there
are more settings to sift thru. I like the automatic check for updates
every time you launch the program. I didn't like the idea that A-A 2007
creates a Windows XP service, though. If you disable it, A-A 2007 will not
run.

[wasted]

History Fan wrote:
> I just installed Ad-Aware 2007. Slightly different interface, and
> there are more settings to sift thru. I like the automatic check for
> updates every time you launch the program. I didn't like the idea
> that A-A 2007 creates a Windows XP service, though. If you disable
> it, A-A 2007 will not run.

And unless I'm missing something the free version no longer lets me tell it
to only scan my C: drive and not my D: drive

[History Fan]

"wasted" <rubbish@xxnone.com> wrote in message
news:466992fa$0$8733$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> History Fan wrote:
>> I just installed Ad-Aware 2007. Slightly different interface, and
>> there are more settings to sift thru. I like the automatic check for
>> updates every time you launch the program. I didn't like the idea
>> that A-A 2007 creates a Windows XP service, though. If you disable
>> it, A-A 2007 will not run.
>
> And unless I'm missing something the free version no longer lets me tell
> it to only scan my C: drive and not my D: drive
>


Not sure. I've gone back to Ad-Aware SE.

[Jbob]

"History Fan" <UnknownplacesonEarth@unknown11.com> wrote in message
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> I just installed Ad-Aware 2007. Slightly different interface, and
> there are more settings to sift thru. I like the automatic check for
> updates every time you launch the program. I didn't like the idea that
> A-A 2007 creates a Windows XP service, though. If you disable it, A-A
> 2007 will not run.

FWIW Ad-Aware is not the only one doing this. AVG AS and A-Squared now also
load services and cannot be disabled for the program to run. This may or
may not have something to do with Vista certification and UAC. Let's hope
that SUPERAntiSpyare doen't go down this line with it's Free version.

It seems Spybot Search & Destroy is having issues with the Vista
Certification thing
http://www.spybot.info/en/news/2007-06-11.html

During the past week, we've added the "Works with Windows Vista" to four
additional programs: RunAlyzer, FileAlyzer, RegAlyzer and TagsRevisited. All
these applications already worked on Vista, but now have received enough
testing as well as updates (e.g. to support Vista's UAC) to be ready to be
faced with the Works with Windows Vista logo program.

Also, after struggling for months with Microsoft about Spybot - Search &D
Destroy 1.5 and the more advanced Certified for Vista logo, we have decided
not to get our next release certified. While we found the "Certified for
Vista" logo requirements to be very useful to enforce a high software
quality in general, it has a huge drawback, which essentially makes every
certified security software prone to getting disabled by malware. Under
these circumstances, version 1.5 will only receive the "Works with Windows
Vista" logo, but at least there's nothing left blocking the release, which
will take place as a beta version this week.

For those interested in the technical background of the decision:

Microsoft requires software that applies for this logo program to
immediately crash when confronted with a situation described by Microsoft in
detail. The background of this still is useful in a standard situation -
software that has bugs should actually crash instead of just trying to hide
them, so that Windows Error Reporting can log the problem and forward it to
the developer. This way Microsoft can assure that applications that are part
of the "Certified for Vista" program are of high quality.

However, In the context of a security application, this is hazardous: if
malware writers can use a perfectly documented way to crash a security
application, the overall security is greatly harmed. To avoid this, we
suggested some alternatives to Microsoft that would not compromise the goal
of submitting bug reports on errors that are the fault of the developer of
the software. In the end though, some people at Microsoft seem to be too
certain that Vista is absolutely safe, upon which we do not intend to
comment, since key Microsofts employees have already done so, for example
Jim Allchin or Mark Russinovich.

[Gaz]

Jbob wrote:
> "History Fan" <UnknownplacesonEarth@unknown11.com> wrote in message
> news:7fe33$46680b44$48311160$32104@FUSE.NET...
>> I just installed Ad-Aware 2007. Slightly different interface, and
>> there are more settings to sift thru. I like the automatic check for
>> updates every time you launch the program. I didn't like the idea that
>> A-A 2007 creates a Windows XP service, though. If you disable it, A-A
>> 2007 will not run.
>
> FWIW Ad-Aware is not the only one doing this. AVG AS and A-Squared now
> also
> load services and cannot be disabled for the program to run. This may or
> may not have something to do with Vista certification and UAC. Let's
> hope
> that SUPERAntiSpyare doen't go down this line with it's Free version.
>
> It seems Spybot Search & Destroy is having issues with the Vista
> Certification thing
> http://www.spybot.info/en/news/2007-06-11.html
>
> During the past week, we've added the "Works with Windows Vista" to four
> additional programs: RunAlyzer, FileAlyzer, RegAlyzer and TagsRevisited.
> All
> these applications already worked on Vista, but now have received enough
> testing as well as updates (e.g. to support Vista's UAC) to be ready to be
> faced with the Works with Windows Vista logo program.
>
> Also, after struggling for months with Microsoft about Spybot - Search &D
> Destroy 1.5 and the more advanced Certified for Vista logo, we have
> decided
> not to get our next release certified. While we found the "Certified for
> Vista" logo requirements to be very useful to enforce a high software
> quality in general, it has a huge drawback, which essentially makes every
> certified security software prone to getting disabled by malware. Under
> these circumstances, version 1.5 will only receive the "Works with Windows
> Vista" logo, but at least there's nothing left blocking the release, which
> will take place as a beta version this week.
>
> For those interested in the technical background of the decision:
>
> Microsoft requires software that applies for this logo program to
> immediately crash when confronted with a situation described by Microsoft
> in
> detail. The background of this still is useful in a standard situation -
> software that has bugs should actually crash instead of just trying to
> hide
> them, so that Windows Error Reporting can log the problem and forward it
> to
> the developer. This way Microsoft can assure that applications that are
> part
> of the "Certified for Vista" program are of high quality.
>
> However, In the context of a security application, this is hazardous: if
> malware writers can use a perfectly documented way to crash a security
> application, the overall security is greatly harmed. To avoid this, we
> suggested some alternatives to Microsoft that would not compromise the
> goal
> of submitting bug reports on errors that are the fault of the developer of
> the software. In the end though, some people at Microsoft seem to be too
> certain that Vista is absolutely safe, upon which we do not intend to
> comment, since key Microsofts employees have already done so, for example
> Jim Allchin or Mark Russinovich.

How long can Vista remain a secure system? It usually takes a teenager a few
hours to take an out of the box XP system on the internet, to getting the
first installation of spyware/malware/viruses.

Gaz

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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:43:35 +0100, "Gaz" <gazter@msn.com> wrote:


>
>How long can Vista remain a secure system? It usually takes a teenager a few
>hours to take an out of the box XP system on the internet, to getting the
>first installation of spyware/malware/viruses.
>
>Gaz
>

It's kind of hard to make a secure system that the various
government groups can still exploit to their hearts content.