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  1. #1
    Jbob Guest

    Re: Ad-Aware 2007

    "History Fan" <UnknownplacesonEarth@unknown11.com> wrote in message
    news:7fe33$46680b44$48311160$32104@FUSE.NET...
    > I just installed Ad-Aware 2007. Slightly different interface, and
    > there are more settings to sift thru. I like the automatic check for
    > updates every time you launch the program. I didn't like the idea that
    > A-A 2007 creates a Windows XP service, though. If you disable it, A-A
    > 2007 will not run.


    FWIW Ad-Aware is not the only one doing this. AVG AS and A-Squared now also
    load services and cannot be disabled for the program to run. This may or
    may not have something to do with Vista certification and UAC. Let's hope
    that SUPERAntiSpyare doen't go down this line with it's Free version.

    It seems Spybot Search & Destroy is having issues with the Vista
    Certification thing
    http://www.spybot.info/en/news/2007-06-11.html

    During the past week, we've added the "Works with Windows Vista" to four
    additional programs: RunAlyzer, FileAlyzer, RegAlyzer and TagsRevisited. All
    these applications already worked on Vista, but now have received enough
    testing as well as updates (e.g. to support Vista's UAC) to be ready to be
    faced with the Works with Windows Vista logo program.

    Also, after struggling for months with Microsoft about Spybot - Search &D
    Destroy 1.5 and the more advanced Certified for Vista logo, we have decided
    not to get our next release certified. While we found the "Certified for
    Vista" logo requirements to be very useful to enforce a high software
    quality in general, it has a huge drawback, which essentially makes every
    certified security software prone to getting disabled by malware. Under
    these circumstances, version 1.5 will only receive the "Works with Windows
    Vista" logo, but at least there's nothing left blocking the release, which
    will take place as a beta version this week.

    For those interested in the technical background of the decision:

    Microsoft requires software that applies for this logo program to
    immediately crash when confronted with a situation described by Microsoft in
    detail. The background of this still is useful in a standard situation -
    software that has bugs should actually crash instead of just trying to hide
    them, so that Windows Error Reporting can log the problem and forward it to
    the developer. This way Microsoft can assure that applications that are part
    of the "Certified for Vista" program are of high quality.

    However, In the context of a security application, this is hazardous: if
    malware writers can use a perfectly documented way to crash a security
    application, the overall security is greatly harmed. To avoid this, we
    suggested some alternatives to Microsoft that would not compromise the goal
    of submitting bug reports on errors that are the fault of the developer of
    the software. In the end though, some people at Microsoft seem to be too
    certain that Vista is absolutely safe, upon which we do not intend to
    comment, since key Microsofts employees have already done so, for example
    Jim Allchin or Mark Russinovich.



  2. #2
    Gaz Guest

    Re: Ad-Aware 2007

    Jbob wrote:
    > "History Fan" <UnknownplacesonEarth@unknown11.com> wrote in message
    > news:7fe33$46680b44$48311160$32104@FUSE.NET...
    >> I just installed Ad-Aware 2007. Slightly different interface, and
    >> there are more settings to sift thru. I like the automatic check for
    >> updates every time you launch the program. I didn't like the idea that
    >> A-A 2007 creates a Windows XP service, though. If you disable it, A-A
    >> 2007 will not run.

    >
    > FWIW Ad-Aware is not the only one doing this. AVG AS and A-Squared now
    > also
    > load services and cannot be disabled for the program to run. This may or
    > may not have something to do with Vista certification and UAC. Let's
    > hope
    > that SUPERAntiSpyare doen't go down this line with it's Free version.
    >
    > It seems Spybot Search & Destroy is having issues with the Vista
    > Certification thing
    > http://www.spybot.info/en/news/2007-06-11.html
    >
    > During the past week, we've added the "Works with Windows Vista" to four
    > additional programs: RunAlyzer, FileAlyzer, RegAlyzer and TagsRevisited.
    > All
    > these applications already worked on Vista, but now have received enough
    > testing as well as updates (e.g. to support Vista's UAC) to be ready to be
    > faced with the Works with Windows Vista logo program.
    >
    > Also, after struggling for months with Microsoft about Spybot - Search &D
    > Destroy 1.5 and the more advanced Certified for Vista logo, we have
    > decided
    > not to get our next release certified. While we found the "Certified for
    > Vista" logo requirements to be very useful to enforce a high software
    > quality in general, it has a huge drawback, which essentially makes every
    > certified security software prone to getting disabled by malware. Under
    > these circumstances, version 1.5 will only receive the "Works with Windows
    > Vista" logo, but at least there's nothing left blocking the release, which
    > will take place as a beta version this week.
    >
    > For those interested in the technical background of the decision:
    >
    > Microsoft requires software that applies for this logo program to
    > immediately crash when confronted with a situation described by Microsoft
    > in
    > detail. The background of this still is useful in a standard situation -
    > software that has bugs should actually crash instead of just trying to
    > hide
    > them, so that Windows Error Reporting can log the problem and forward it
    > to
    > the developer. This way Microsoft can assure that applications that are
    > part
    > of the "Certified for Vista" program are of high quality.
    >
    > However, In the context of a security application, this is hazardous: if
    > malware writers can use a perfectly documented way to crash a security
    > application, the overall security is greatly harmed. To avoid this, we
    > suggested some alternatives to Microsoft that would not compromise the
    > goal
    > of submitting bug reports on errors that are the fault of the developer of
    > the software. In the end though, some people at Microsoft seem to be too
    > certain that Vista is absolutely safe, upon which we do not intend to
    > comment, since key Microsofts employees have already done so, for example
    > Jim Allchin or Mark Russinovich.


    How long can Vista remain a secure system? It usually takes a teenager a few
    hours to take an out of the box XP system on the internet, to getting the
    first installation of spyware/malware/viruses.

    Gaz



  3. #3
    - Guest

    Re: Ad-Aware 2007

    On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:43:35 +0100, "Gaz" <gazter@msn.com> wrote:


    >
    >How long can Vista remain a secure system? It usually takes a teenager a few
    >hours to take an out of the box XP system on the internet, to getting the
    >first installation of spyware/malware/viruses.
    >
    >Gaz
    >


    It's kind of hard to make a secure system that the various
    government groups can still exploit to their hearts content.



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