On May 25, 3:27 am, Gerald309 <gerald...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 25, 3:06 am, Gerald309 <gerald...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry about the double post.... Usenet doesn't like my Firefox
> > perhaps...
>
> And so you see the points if we look here:
>
> What is format? - A Word Definition From the Webopedia Computerhttp://www.webopedia.com/TERM/F/format.html
> (1) To prepare a storage medium, usually a disk, for reading and
> writing. When you format a disk, the operating system erases all
> bookkeeping information on the disk, tests the disk to make sure all
> sectors are reliable, marks bad sectors (that is, those that are
> scratched), and creates internal address tables that it later uses to
> locate information. You must format a disk before you can use it. Note
> that reformatting a disk does not erase the data on the disk, only the
> address tables. Do not panic, therefore, if you accidentally reformat
> a disk that has useful data. A computer specialist should be able to
> recover most, if not all, of the information on the disk. You can also
> buy programs that enable you to recover a disk yourself.
>
> Are you people who advocate this actually know what you are doing ?
> This is a very elaborate operation to remove windows and all other
> software and files - and all of which may be infected or generally
> just parts - to painstakingly reinstall them - and somewhat an ease
> once you know how. Or is it that they are talking about uninstalling
> Windows altogether and install a new licensed copy ? And then all the
> software registered in the other is useless and you have to buy all
> new software and what about personal files if infected - reinstall
> them too ???
>
> Sounds like snake oil to me (gotcha)

I am looking for the answer as to when and where the wheat and chaff
are seperated in this "reformat the disc" attitude response to
consumers as the spyware removal "cure". ... meaning when and where
does the actual adware, spyware, malware get removed in this
process ??

Since much of adware and spyware and all the malware forms of it are
not illegal and much of it is (laws rapidly changing), the security
industry thyemselves must walks a legally compliant line of liability
in lible suits for defamation if they declare a product as spyware.

The average piece of adware or spyware infection carries about 2 to 15
files and 2 to 5 or 10 registry entries. The large ones can be up to
30 or more files and up to 20 to 30 registry entries (See Computer
Associates CA Spyware Center). They are not like viruses or worms that
can corrupt and delete files - directories after directories. Their
purpose is to be an ongoing resident in the computer to spy on personl
information to any severity of degree and illicit gain and transmit
the informations back (crimeware) to the cyber criminals. The last
thing spyware wants to do is destroy the Windows Operating System -
they need it up and running to make illicit gain from their victim.

So the point there is that since there are EULA (End User License
Agreement) deceits or unfair practices (see StopBadware.Org) employed
by adware and spyware packages bundled in legitimate known software -
where does "reformatting" draw the line or detection of what this
person deems "infection" ? There is adware and spyware we as consumers
have agreed to unknowingly by just simply clicking "Install" and
trusting the products but have actually legally given permission for
these threats to be running on our machines (not me - not since
2002). The only dismisal of that is to uninstall the software
immediately. You can of course remove those threats immediately with
antispyware software - and the program in over 50 percent of the time
will still operate normally without infection - me, I dump it and
never go back to someone who does that. I don't want anything to do
with them or products they use to attempt to dupe me.

So what, when, and where do these "reformatters" employ as their
knowledge of what is bad on the computer and what is not ? Are they
all programming experts that can tell malware from legitimate
software ? The best antispyware in the world has a "Quarantine Folder"
in case, I repeat in case, they make a mistake (false positive) and
you can restore the removed items - and they ARE EXPERTS of what is
and what is not malware. In other words the point here is that I would
not want a paramedic doing brain surgery on me.

I guess you are catching on to my whole response to this Gentlemen's
string he began for answers.

The Beatles (rock group):
"I would like to say thank you on behalf of the group and me-self ,
and I hope we passed thee audition".