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    Gerald309 Guest

    Re: Does this sound like spyware?

    On May 25, 3:06 am, Gerald309 <gerald...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > Sorry about the double post.... Usenet doesn't like my Firefox
    > perhaps...


    And so you see the points if we look here:

    What is format? - A Word Definition From the Webopedia Computer
    http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/F/format.html
    (1) To prepare a storage medium, usually a disk, for reading and
    writing. When you format a disk, the operating system erases all
    bookkeeping information on the disk, tests the disk to make sure all
    sectors are reliable, marks bad sectors (that is, those that are
    scratched), and creates internal address tables that it later uses to
    locate information. You must format a disk before you can use it. Note
    that reformatting a disk does not erase the data on the disk, only the
    address tables. Do not panic, therefore, if you accidentally reformat
    a disk that has useful data. A computer specialist should be able to
    recover most, if not all, of the information on the disk. You can also
    buy programs that enable you to recover a disk yourself.

    Are you people who advocate this actually know what you are doing ?
    This is a very elaborate operation to remove windows and all other
    software and files - and all of which may be infected or generally
    just parts - to painstakingly reinstall them - and somewhat an ease
    once you know how. Or is it that they are talking about uninstalling
    Windows altogether and install a new licensed copy ? And then all the
    software registered in the other is useless and you have to buy all
    new software and what about personal files if infected - reinstall
    them too ???

    Sounds like snake oil to me (gotcha)


  2. #2
    Gerald309 Guest

    Re: Does this sound like spyware?

    On May 25, 3:27 am, Gerald309 <gerald...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On May 25, 3:06 am, Gerald309 <gerald...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > > Sorry about the double post.... Usenet doesn't like my Firefox
    > > perhaps...

    >
    > And so you see the points if we look here:
    >
    > What is format? - A Word Definition From the Webopedia Computerhttp://www.webopedia.com/TERM/F/format.html
    > (1) To prepare a storage medium, usually a disk, for reading and
    > writing. When you format a disk, the operating system erases all
    > bookkeeping information on the disk, tests the disk to make sure all
    > sectors are reliable, marks bad sectors (that is, those that are
    > scratched), and creates internal address tables that it later uses to
    > locate information. You must format a disk before you can use it. Note
    > that reformatting a disk does not erase the data on the disk, only the
    > address tables. Do not panic, therefore, if you accidentally reformat
    > a disk that has useful data. A computer specialist should be able to
    > recover most, if not all, of the information on the disk. You can also
    > buy programs that enable you to recover a disk yourself.
    >
    > Are you people who advocate this actually know what you are doing ?
    > This is a very elaborate operation to remove windows and all other
    > software and files - and all of which may be infected or generally
    > just parts - to painstakingly reinstall them - and somewhat an ease
    > once you know how. Or is it that they are talking about uninstalling
    > Windows altogether and install a new licensed copy ? And then all the
    > software registered in the other is useless and you have to buy all
    > new software and what about personal files if infected - reinstall
    > them too ???
    >
    > Sounds like snake oil to me (gotcha)


    I am looking for the answer as to when and where the wheat and chaff
    are seperated in this "reformat the disc" attitude response to
    consumers as the spyware removal "cure". ... meaning when and where
    does the actual adware, spyware, malware get removed in this
    process ??

    Since much of adware and spyware and all the malware forms of it are
    not illegal and much of it is (laws rapidly changing), the security
    industry thyemselves must walks a legally compliant line of liability
    in lible suits for defamation if they declare a product as spyware.

    The average piece of adware or spyware infection carries about 2 to 15
    files and 2 to 5 or 10 registry entries. The large ones can be up to
    30 or more files and up to 20 to 30 registry entries (See Computer
    Associates CA Spyware Center). They are not like viruses or worms that
    can corrupt and delete files - directories after directories. Their
    purpose is to be an ongoing resident in the computer to spy on personl
    information to any severity of degree and illicit gain and transmit
    the informations back (crimeware) to the cyber criminals. The last
    thing spyware wants to do is destroy the Windows Operating System -
    they need it up and running to make illicit gain from their victim.

    So the point there is that since there are EULA (End User License
    Agreement) deceits or unfair practices (see StopBadware.Org) employed
    by adware and spyware packages bundled in legitimate known software -
    where does "reformatting" draw the line or detection of what this
    person deems "infection" ? There is adware and spyware we as consumers
    have agreed to unknowingly by just simply clicking "Install" and
    trusting the products but have actually legally given permission for
    these threats to be running on our machines (not me - not since
    2002). The only dismisal of that is to uninstall the software
    immediately. You can of course remove those threats immediately with
    antispyware software - and the program in over 50 percent of the time
    will still operate normally without infection - me, I dump it and
    never go back to someone who does that. I don't want anything to do
    with them or products they use to attempt to dupe me.

    So what, when, and where do these "reformatters" employ as their
    knowledge of what is bad on the computer and what is not ? Are they
    all programming experts that can tell malware from legitimate
    software ? The best antispyware in the world has a "Quarantine Folder"
    in case, I repeat in case, they make a mistake (false positive) and
    you can restore the removed items - and they ARE EXPERTS of what is
    and what is not malware. In other words the point here is that I would
    not want a paramedic doing brain surgery on me.

    I guess you are catching on to my whole response to this Gentlemen's
    string he began for answers.

    The Beatles (rock group):
    "I would like to say thank you on behalf of the group and me-self ,
    and I hope we passed thee audition".


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    Andy Walker Guest

    Re: Does this sound like spyware?

    Gerald309 wrote:

    >I guess you are catching on to my whole response to this Gentlemen's
    >string he began for answers.


    Yes, the term "nut case" seems to fit nicely.

  4. #4
    Default User Guest

    Re: Does this sound like spyware?

    On Fri, 25 May 2007 07:29:15 -0400, Andy Walker <awalker@nspank.invalid>
    wrote:

    >Gerald309 wrote:
    >
    >>I guess you are catching on to my whole response to this Gentlemen's
    >>string he began for answers.

    >
    >Yes, the term "nut case" seems to fit nicely.


    Heh! Ya think!

  5. #5
    cmsix Guest

    Re: Does this sound like spyware?


    "Default User" <default@user1.invalid> wrote in message
    news:eq1e53p1o7aacs9uje186pscou4j1ot4t8@4ax.com...
    > On Fri, 25 May 2007 07:29:15 -0400, Andy Walker <awalker@nspank.invalid>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Gerald309 wrote:
    >>
    >>>I guess you are catching on to my whole response to this Gentlemen's
    >>>string he began for answers.

    >>
    >>Yes, the term "nut case" seems to fit nicely.

    >
    > Heh! Ya think!


    That could be considered unkind. Afterall, is it so strange that someone
    would put up forty-seven replies to his own original post so that he could
    explaine what he meant to himself? I think not. Surely he is only
    auditioning for a government job.

    cmsix



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    Andy Walker Guest

    Re: Does this sound like spyware?

    cmsix wrote:

    >
    >"Default User" <default@user1.invalid> wrote in message
    >news:eq1e53p1o7aacs9uje186pscou4j1ot4t8@4ax.com.. .
    >> On Fri, 25 May 2007 07:29:15 -0400, Andy Walker <awalker@nspank.invalid>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Gerald309 wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>I guess you are catching on to my whole response to this Gentlemen's
    >>>>string he began for answers.
    >>>
    >>>Yes, the term "nut case" seems to fit nicely.

    >>
    >> Heh! Ya think!

    >
    >That could be considered unkind. Afterall, is it so strange that someone
    >would put up forty-seven replies to his own original post so that he could
    >explaine what he meant to himself? I think not. Surely he is only
    >auditioning for a government job.
    >
    >cmsix


    LOL! That reminds me of Dr. Peter Venkman's famous quote "someone with
    your qualifications would have no trouble finding a top-flight job in
    either the food service or housekeeping industries." ;-)


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    Gerald309 Guest

    Re: Does this sound like spyware?

    On May 25, 6:17 pm, Andy Walker <awal...@nspank.invalid> wrote:
    > cmsix wrote:
    >
    > >"Default User" <defa...@user1.invalid> wrote in message
    > >news:eq1e53p1o7aacs9uje186pscou4j1ot4t8@4ax.com.. .
    > >> On Fri, 25 May 2007 07:29:15 -0400, Andy Walker <awal...@nspank.invalid>
    > >> wrote:

    >
    > >>>Gerald309 wrote:

    >
    > >>>>I guess you are catching on to my whole response to this Gentlemen's
    > >>>>string he began for answers.

    >
    > >>>Yes, the term "nut case" seems to fit nicely.

    >
    > >> Heh! Ya think!

    >
    > >That could be considered unkind. Afterall, is it so strange that someone
    > >would put up forty-seven replies to his own original post so that he could
    > >explaine what he meant to himself? I think not. Surely he is only
    > >auditioning for a government job.

    >
    > >cmsix

    >
    > LOL! That reminds me of Dr. Peter Venkman's famous quote "someone with
    > your qualifications would have no trouble finding a top-flight job in
    > either the food service or housekeeping industries." ;-)- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    =======================/
    so answer the question.... How does "reformatting a disc" remove
    infestation???

    you can run your mouth well against an innocent consumer asking for
    help pretending to know the answer - well I am calling you out. What
    is the answer big mouth ???

    Don't sit there calling th kettle black that anyone with an
    alterrnative answer is a nut.... you never answered the Gentlemen's
    question - Was He ripped off ??? And we want DIRECT technical reproof
    answers not b*llsh*t replies.... answer the questions posed
    exactly ...


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    Gerald309 Guest

    Re: Does this sound like spyware?

    On May 25, 12:37 pm, "cmsix" <c...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > "Default User" <defa...@user1.invalid> wrote in message
    >
    > news:eq1e53p1o7aacs9uje186pscou4j1ot4t8@4ax.com...
    >
    > > On Fri, 25 May 2007 07:29:15 -0400, Andy Walker <awal...@nspank.invalid>
    > > wrote:

    >
    > >>Gerald309 wrote:

    >
    > >>>I guess you are catching on to my whole response to this Gentlemen's
    > >>>string he began for answers.

    >
    > >>Yes, the term "nut case" seems to fit nicely.

    >
    > > Heh! Ya think!

    >
    > That could be considered unkind. Afterall, is it so strange that someone
    > would put up forty-seven replies to his own original post so that he could
    > explaine what he meant to himself? I think not. Surely he is only
    > auditioning for a government job.
    >
    > cmsix


    =======================/
    so answer the question.... How does "reformatting a disc" remove
    infestation???

    you can run your mouth well against an innocent consumer asking for
    help pretending to know the answer - well I am calling you out. What
    is the answer big mouth ???

    Don't sit there calling th kettle black that anyone with an
    alterrnative answer is a nut.... you never answered the Gentlemen's
    question - Was He ripped off ??? And we want DIRECT technical reproof
    answers not b*llsh*t replies.... answer the questions posed
    exactly ...


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    Gerald309 Guest

    Re: Does this sound like spyware?

    On May 25, 11:57 am, Default User <defa...@user1.invalid> wrote:
    > On Fri, 25 May 2007 07:29:15 -0400, Andy Walker <awal...@nspank.invalid>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Gerald309 wrote:

    >
    > >>I guess you are catching on to my whole response to this Gentlemen's
    > >>string he began for answers.

    >
    > >Yes, the term "nut case" seems to fit nicely.

    >
    > Heh! Ya think!


    =======================/
    so answer the question.... How does "reformatting a disc" remove
    infestation???

    you can run your mouth well against an innocent consumer asking for
    help pretending to know the answer - well I am calling you out. What
    is the answer big mouth ???

    Don't sit there calling th kettle black that anyone with an
    alterrnative answer is a nut.... you never answered the Gentlemen's
    question - Was He ripped off ??? And we want DIRECT technical reproof
    answers not b*llsh*t replies.... answer the questions posed
    exactly ...


  10. #10
    Gerald309 Guest

    Re: Does this sound like spyware?

    On May 25, 7:29 am, Andy Walker <awal...@nspank.invalid> wrote:
    > Gerald309 wrote:
    > >I guess you are catching on to my whole response to this Gentlemen's
    > >string he began for answers.

    >
    > Yes, the term "nut case" seems to fit nicely.


    =================
    Take a hike fag... I have a nephew that owns a PC Repair Shop and if
    he did what you promote I would take a baseball bat to his ass...


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