Question about Google Groups spammers

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Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov wrote:
> -_- <notvalid@notvalidemail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I've never heard of botnets before, so I searched that term inclusive of
>>> usenet AND spam AND google AND groups, which returns some interesting results.
>
>>> I read that the "24hoursupport.helpdesk" and "alt.internet.search-engines"
>>> groups might be of help on this, so I've added them to this reply.
>>>
>>> Paranoid
>
>> Here is an eWeek story on botnets you may find interesting.
>>
>> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895...MNL041707EP38A
>
>
> Better article - long read
> http://www.honeynet.org/papers/bots/
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.onahorse.com/
Quite so.

Thanks.

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[Ho]

Borked Pseudo Mailed <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote
in news:5a0510fb1d7a404ec6c3b290fc588778@pseudo.borke d.net:

>
> As most of you already know, there is a serious pandemic problem
> facing readers
> in news groups. There is a glut of spammers and sock puppets who seem
> to spam with impunity, many through the Google Groups web to usenet
> interface. I am talking about commercial spam, people selling things,
> people who want your money. I had always thought that posting
> commerical spam links to groups with charters against it was
> considered abuse, and could get the spammer's account cancelled. That
> no longer seems to be the case, at least not with Google.
>
> Complaints to <groups-abuse@google.com> seem to be ignored. You
> copy the complete
> spam message with headers and send it to them, with "Commercial SPAM
> link complaint" or other obvious wording in the subject title, but no
> bananas. The spam continues, and new Google sock puppets keep popping
> up like summer dandelions.
>
> A few months ago, I began tracking the IP addresses in the spam and
> sock puppet
> message headers, of all spam that has been disrupting our groups,
> noticing that some of the messages had been cross posted to other
> groups, and in very odd combinations.
>
> I began to notice that the Google IP addresses in the spam headers
> are coming
> from all over the place, from Australia, the US, UK, everywhere that
> Google Groups is accessible.
>
> I don't get it. I can't believe that spammers around the world
> could be working
> in cahoots, could they? Have spammers created a global usenet
> link-exchange program, where they agree to constantly create new
> Google sock puppets, each from their own injection points that Google
> identifies by IP block, then keep posting each other's spammy links in
> usenet messages, and maybe to proprietary Google web groups too?
>
> I know there are plenty of other spammy ISPs and what not. But how
> many other
> Google Groups are there? It's like they are working tag teams. One
> Google user posts a newbie message "I am new here," "I need
> information." Then the spammer responds right on que, usually with
> their own Google Groups account, or other usenet service.
>
> So I guess I have two questions. Is an international spammer's
> "link-exchange"
> program really going on here? And if it is, then is there any
> practical way to stop them? Maybe I'm just being paranoid, or don't
> fully understand how the whole Google Groups posting thing works.
> Spam sucks. Whatever happened to the UDP?
>
> Paranoid
>
>

r u plain stupid?

spambots rule the internet

[Pack]

In article <Xns994FDDFFE31B4LianaUsanacom@24.64.223.211>
Ho <Liana@Usana.com> wrote:
>
> Borked Pseudo Mailed <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote
> in news:5a0510fb1d7a404ec6c3b290fc588778@pseudo.borke d.net:
>
> >
> > As most of you already know, there is a serious pandemic problem
> > facing readers
> > in news groups. There is a glut of spammers and sock puppets who seem
> > to spam with impunity, many through the Google Groups web to usenet
> > interface. I am talking about commercial spam, people selling things,
> > people who want your money. I had always thought that posting
> > commerical spam links to groups with charters against it was
> > considered abuse, and could get the spammer's account cancelled. That
> > no longer seems to be the case, at least not with Google.
> >
> > Complaints to <groups-abuse@google.com> seem to be ignored. You
> > copy the complete
> > spam message with headers and send it to them, with "Commercial SPAM
> > link complaint" or other obvious wording in the subject title, but no
> > bananas. The spam continues, and new Google sock puppets keep popping
> > up like summer dandelions.
> >
> > A few months ago, I began tracking the IP addresses in the spam and
> > sock puppet
> > message headers, of all spam that has been disrupting our groups,
> > noticing that some of the messages had been cross posted to other
> > groups, and in very odd combinations.
> >
> > I began to notice that the Google IP addresses in the spam headers
> > are coming
> > from all over the place, from Australia, the US, UK, everywhere that
> > Google Groups is accessible.
> >
> > I don't get it. I can't believe that spammers around the world
> > could be working
> > in cahoots, could they? Have spammers created a global usenet
> > link-exchange program, where they agree to constantly create new
> > Google sock puppets, each from their own injection points that Google
> > identifies by IP block, then keep posting each other's spammy links in
> > usenet messages, and maybe to proprietary Google web groups too?
> >
> > I know there are plenty of other spammy ISPs and what not. But how
> > many other
> > Google Groups are there? It's like they are working tag teams. One
> > Google user posts a newbie message "I am new here," "I need
> > information." Then the spammer responds right on que, usually with
> > their own Google Groups account, or other usenet service.
> >
> > So I guess I have two questions. Is an international spammer's
> > "link-exchange"
> > program really going on here? And if it is, then is there any
> > practical way to stop them? Maybe I'm just being paranoid, or don't
> > fully understand how the whole Google Groups posting thing works.
> > Spam sucks. Whatever happened to the UDP?
> >
> > Paranoid
> >
> >
>
> r u plain stupid?
>
> spambots rule the internet

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