"cbgerry" <cbgerry@bluecollarpc.net> wrote in
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> On Apr 9, 12:51 am, "cbgerry" <cbge...@bluecollarpc.net> wrote:
>> On Apr 8, 11:58 pm, Dustin Cook
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>> <spamfilterineffect.see....@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> > "cbgerry" <cbge...@bluecollarpc.net> wrote
>> > innews:1176069380.219622.283790@l77g2000hsb.google groups.com:
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>> > > On Apr 8, 5:19 pm, "cmsix" <c...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> "cbgerry" <cbge...@bluecollarpc.net> wrote in message
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>> > >>news:1176066034.635620.156670@b75g2000hsg.google groups.com...
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>> > >> > On Apr 6, 3:45 pm, George Orwell <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-
>> > >> > Header@[127.1]> wrote:
>> > >> >> PC Worldhttp://elfurl.com/qympl
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>> > >> >> Some industry analysts are proclaiming the traditional
>> > >> >> antivirus method for detecting and eradicating viruses,
>> > >> >> trojans, spyware and other baneful code by matching it
>> > >> >> against a signaturehttp://************/crapwaretobe"dead."
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>> > >> >> They say signature-based checking can't keep up with the
>> > >> >> flood of virus variants manufactured by a criminal underworld
>> > >> >> that is beating the antivirus vendors at their own game. And
>> > >> >> they are arguing it's time for companies to adopt newer
>> > >> >> approaches, such as whitelisting or behavior- blocking, to
>> > >> >> protect desktops and servers.
>>
>> > >> >> "It's the beginning of the end for antivirus," says Robin
>> > >> >> Bloor, partner at consulting firm Hurwitz & Associates, in
>> > >> >> Boston, who adds he began his "antivirus is dead" campaign a
>> > >> >> year ago and feels even more strongly about it today. "...The
>> > >> >> approach antivirus vendors take is completely wrong. The
>> > >> >> criminals working to release these viruses against computer
>> > >> >> users are testing against antivirus software. They know what
>> > >> >> works and how to create variants."
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>> > >> >> ..Instead of antivirus software, he says, users should be
>> > >> >> investing in whitelisting software that prevents viruses from
>> > >> >> running because it only allows authorized applications to
>> > >> >> run.
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>> > >> >> Whitelisting products are available from SecureWave, Bit9,
>> > >> >> Savant, AppSense and CA, the first traditional antivirus
>> > >> >> vendor to see the light, in Bloor's view.
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>> > >> > ========================>
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>> > >> > They mean "heurisitics" in all descent antivirus paid
>> > >> > protection ? Duh.... heurisitics. This is activated meaning
>> > >> > real time protection in paid subscription antivirus software
>> > >> > programs. Heurisitics is the ability to identifiy the malware
>> > >> > threat by typical behavior without having the definitions yet
>> > >> > written for removal and blocking of the particular threat -
>> > >> > worm, virus, many trojans.
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>> > >> > ""QUOTE""
>> > >> >> They say signature-based checking can't keep up with the
>> > >> >> flood of virus
>> > >> > ""UNQUOTE""
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>> > >> > ...and it never did and never will. For newbies these idiot
>> > >> > editors are writing to (and I am not the only one recognizing
>> > >> > this) - for newbies / novice information here, the writer is
>> > >> > calling a system scan with your antivirus as "signature-based
>> > >> > checking" - like duh a-hole. Why would you do a scan, find and
>> > >> > remove malware and then turn around and say that the PC was
>> > >> > protected in the beginning as "signature-based checking" ???
>> > >> > How the h*ll was the PC ever protected by "sinature- based
>> > >> > checking"?"?? Duh !!!
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>> > >> > So where's the distinction that something is or did die ????
>> > >> > Idiot Editors playing with new people's minds. Malicious bad
>> > >> > information even intentionally. I have caught some of the4se
>> > >> > creeps before giving out bad information and responded to it.
>>
>> > >> > ""QUOTE""
>> > >> > they are arguing it's time for companies to adopt newer
>> > >> > approaches, such as ... behavior- blocking
>> > >> > ""UNQUOTE""
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>> > >> > ...You mean BUY some antivirus protection ??? to activate real
>> > >> > time protection - - Duh !!!
>>
>> > >> > This is the result of trolls, criminal elements, idiots, plain
>> > >> > newbies, and bragging rights malicious persons giving the
>> > >> > constant idea of freeware security as your silver bullet. That
>> > >> > is absurd and even for the most new person. Anybody new to
>> > >> > computers instantly realizes that the software business is a
>> > >> > multi-million and multi- billion dollar industry. You can't
>> > >> > even miss that one on TV News always informing the public of
>> > >> > the amount of trade done over the internet if you are not a
>> > >> > computer owner/operator. I believe it is in the neighborhood
>> > >> > of 16 billion dollars yearly or more. So point is the "newbie"
>> > >> > knows better and are taking their chances and they know it.
>> > >> > They know you are only getting what they pay for in the
>> > >> > worst ignorance of software or computers.
>>
>> > >> > A little knowledge spread around stops all of this in a very,
>> > >> > very great degree.
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>> > >> Hell, you don't even have to buy any. You can download avast for
>> > >> free and it does real time checking, even scans incoming email.
>>
>> > >> Of course the most common path of infection can be easily
>> > >> blocked by simply turning off html rendering in your mail
>> > >> client. No text message has ever infected a machine without the
>> > >> help of that machine's user.
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>> > >> cmsix
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>> > > ========================>
>> > > And what protection does free antivirus offer when browsing the
>> > > internet ? Free open source Clam AV has an Outlook plug-in to
>> > > scan email. But you are only talking about being protected with
>> > > email scanning. What about browsing ? That is absurd to just use
>> > > a computer for email - cell phones do that. I have never heard of
>> > > such a thing that someone pays up to and over 2 thousand dollars
>> > > for a computer and then not use it because free antivirus only
>> > > scans email. Strange answer.
>>
>> > Ehh, If you don't mind me asking, what makes you think free
>> > antivirus only scans email? Most resident antivirus scans files
>> > after creation/during, when opening, before execution etc. In those
>> > cases, if the malware is known to the scanner, it should flag it
>> > and provide you some options for dealing with it, depending on your
>> > setup.
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>> > --
>> > Dustin Cook
>> > Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2a
>> > email: bughunter.dus...@gmail.com.removethis
>> > web..:http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
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>> Ehhh... yourself.
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>> That's absurd - where in the hell did you get that at ? The whole
>> message I wrote was about antivirus heurisitics for browsing the
>> internet.....
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>> You wrote:
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>> ""QUOTE""> Ehh, If you don't mind me asking, what makes you think
>> free antivirus
>> > only scans email?
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>> ""UNQUOTE""
>> Perhaps you are talking abou the magazine editor comments?
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> Here.... I will quote it for you .... I said:
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> ""QUOTE""
>> > And what protection does free antivirus offer when browsing the
>> > internet ? Free open source Clam AV has an Outlook plug-in to scan
>> > email. But you are only talking about being protected with email
>> > scanning. What about browsing ? That is absurd to just use a
>> > computer for email - cell phones do that. I have never heard of
>> > such a thing that someone pays up to and over 2 thousand dollars
>> > for a computer and then not use it because free antivirus only
>> > scans email. Strange answer.
> ""UNQUOTE""
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> Now again 'Ehhhh" where do you get this to say about me: ...
>
> You said :
> ""QUOTE""
> Ehh, If you don't mind me asking, what makes you think free antivirus
>> > only scans email?
> ""UNQUOTE""
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> I do no think absurdly like that or your question. Got It ? Quit being
> absurd or making comments only a-holes would.
The question was asked in response to your last paragraph. You seem to
ramble alot, and your not making much/any sense at this point. I did not
attack you with my post sir, I merely asked you a question.
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Dustin Cook
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2a
email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
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