On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:50:58 +0000, C J. wrote:

> In the case of massive infection, its pretty much a given by that point,
> that any machines OS will most likey be fried, even after all the
> infectors found - are eradicated.
>
> As an example - I used Daves tool, along with Ewido, Spybot Search and
> Destroy, and Adaware SE on a Dell Dimension 4600C that was infected with
> over 522 viruses /trojans on a neighbors PC in July 2006.
>
> After running the 4 utilities twice (once in safe mode, once in normal
> mode) all but 10 items had been successfully removed. The Windows Core on
> her pc was severrily crippled - and left in an unusable state.
>
> I contacted Mikiemoes over at Bleepingcomputer.com and had him/her working
> with me towards final cleanup for a repair install over the course of a
> couple of days via posting of Hijackthis logs. After we got nowhere with
> taking that approach, and because the core was to far gone - in the end I
> made the decision to wipe my neighbors drive and re-install Windows onto a
> new larger harddrive *.
>
> Do I believe Mr Lipman's Multi_AV tool was responsible for the damage done
> to my neighbors Windows installation.
>
> No. And to come away with that opinion - would be completely idiotic.
> This tool was not designed with the intention of replacing a PC users
> existing installed Antivirus solution.
>
> What I know was responsible for the damage done, was the neighbors own
> surfing habits, combined with letting another member of her family use
> her computer.
>
> The machine was just taken out of the box and set up and used. It hadn't
> been patched, it wasn't behind a firewall, their virus defs hadn't been
> updated in nearly 18 months, and Viral scanning had been turned off by
> one or more of the infectors.

I'm completely confused as to why you would bring Davids name into this,
as he and multi-av have nothing to do with the issues you describe above.

The PC was severely compromised, the OS was trashed such that it could not
be cleaned without removing the malware, which you found also caused it to
not operate properly - that's normal for malware that replaces OS system
files.

None of the Malware removal tools FIX the OS, they just remove the
infectors if they can find them - if an infector replaces a necessary file
and you attempt to clean it, well you remove the file which may be
necessary for proper operation of the OS.

So, it would appear that neither David or Multi-AV had anything to do with
your problem, that you didn't know enough to just wipe and reinstall to
start with.


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