Has David Lipman been providing malware to known malware criminals?

[4Q]

kurt wismer wrote:
> Dustin Cook wrote:
> [snip]
> > You have to understand something rather important about 4Q, He's not av
> > and he's not VX. He's a somewhat neutral annoyance to both sides.
>
> not vx? that would be like saying i'm not av... just because someone is
> willing to tear his peers a new one doesn't mean he doesn't hold the
> same ideals as they do... who is it, after all, that's trying to get the
> band back together (in a manner of speaking)?

That's as clear as mud... but I'm sure
you can mumble on some more.

>
> plus, why would a non-vx'er have been given the rights to boot people
> from #virus?

Raid has already lost his shirt when he
said I was "non-coder" (then a VX
article with code appeared -- I think
you'll find the AVers called that virus
"Linux.orig" *not my best admitted* but
an example of how Raid is incorrect with
his bull**** once again). And I'm still
waiting for him to comment on the 16bit
DOS ASM code with the CRC checksumming
I posted to 4Q site recently, after he
claimed I didn't know what checksumming
was!

Btw Kurt I assume when you did your
degree in computer science, as when I
did my degree in computer science. One
of the requirements was to write code
(to demonstrate the theory and first
principles of the discipline was understood). Now given Dustin Cook
left
school with no qualifications I'm sure
it's difficult for his limited comprehension
to understand you can't fake doing a 3-4
year course with structured programming
and come out with a B.Sc Honours degree.

Now when we take a look at his code
as Kadaitcha Man did recently, anyone with
an ounce of knowledge in programming
would understand that Dustin Cook hasn't
got a clue about Modular, Structured
or Object Oriented methodologies... his
code is cobbled together hacked ****os
or "a polished turd" as K-Man refered to
it.

And this after he tried to laugh in
KM's face with "I pity the fool who doesn
't
understand code" *gaff* !KM who's been a
computer professional and coder since
the 70's... Anyone reading these threads
can clearly see Dustin Cook has sever
psychological problems dealing with
a challenge to his egomania.He's replaced
his lack of skill in coding with more
than his fair share in maliciousness.

Anyone that values their privacy and
computer security shouldn't trust Dustin
Cook, *he* will **** them over at some
point in the near future!


4Q
http://fourq.host.sk/chars/Dustin_Cook/

[Dustin Cook]

kurt wismer <kurtw@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:eu7kb3$5nm$5
@registered.motzarella.org:

> Dustin Cook wrote:
> [snip]
>> You have to understand something rather important about 4Q, He's not
av
>> and he's not VX. He's a somewhat neutral annoyance to both sides.
>
> not vx? that would be like saying i'm not av... just because someone is
> willing to tear his peers a new one doesn't mean he doesn't hold the
> same ideals as they do... who is it, after all, that's trying to get
the
> band back together (in a manner of speaking)?
>
> plus, why would a non-vx'er have been given the rights to boot people
> from #virus?

4Q isn't vx nor is he av, and I'm doubtful he'd claim otherwise. He's
more of an outside commentator, peeking in and giving his 2 cents about
what he sees.

You do not have to be a vxer to get ops in #virus; You just have to be
friends with someone who is already an op. Did you think #virus was
really strict? Years ago, I remember it was, but that was a long time
ago.

While I have no problem with being torn a new one, it wouldn't hurt to
use factual information when doing so. I see no reason to mislead people,
as 4Q has been doing and continues to do.

Apparently, he's targetting David Lipman now... *shrug*


--
Dustin Cook
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - V2.2
web: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk - email:
bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
Pad: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml

[4Q]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> kurt wismer <kurtw@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:eu7kb3$5nm$5
> @registered.motzarella.org:
>
> > Dustin Cook wrote:
> > [snip]
> >> You have to understand something rather important about 4Q, He's not
> av
> >> and he's not VX. He's a somewhat neutral annoyance to both sides.
> >
> > not vx? that would be like saying i'm not av... just because someone is
> > willing to tear his peers a new one doesn't mean he doesn't hold the
> > same ideals as they do... who is it, after all, that's trying to get
> the
> > band back together (in a manner of speaking)?
> >
> > plus, why would a non-vx'er have been given the rights to boot people
> > from #virus?
>
> 4Q isn't vx nor is he av, and I'm doubtful he'd claim otherwise.

I don't believe in VX as represented by
someone like yourself. For me VX is part
of my interest in AL (Artifical Life),
I believe in self-replicating entities
as a legitimate study. However the VX
I love is not represented by a **** that
codes ****e in bASIC (overwriters, prependers)
then makes a lot of noise about those
nuggets of crap... you are the male
version of attention seeking 'Gigabyte'
only worse.


>He's
> more of an outside commentator, peeking in and giving his 2 cents about
> what he sees.

Yes I am commenting. You have set
yourself up with your years of posting
malicious crap talk. You are an excellent
example of a piss poor coder with a nasty
mouth and malicious tendancies, something
other VXers should avoid.

>
> You do not have to be a vxer to get ops in #virus; You just have to be
> friends with someone who is already an op.

I think you'll find Evul gave me 200
level access on day one. That was the
same level you had. I was given 201 level
in #vxers by Perikles so dickheads with
200 like yourself couldn't play silly
k/b games because I wouldn't put up with
the "look-at-me! I coded a prepender in
bASIC" crapola. ;]]


Did you think #virus was
> really strict? Years ago, I remember it was, but that was a long time
> ago.
>
> While I have no problem with being torn a new one, it wouldn't hurt to
> use factual information when doing so. I see no reason to mislead people,
> as 4Q has been doing and continues to do.

You mean quoting what you wrote and
adding some analysis? Are you seriously
suggesting I've misquoted you? There
your words, you live with the consequences, idiot.


>
> Apparently, he's targetting David Lipman now... *shrug*
>

I'm asking Lipman if he provided malware
to you Dustin Cook, a known malware
sociopath with a long history of abuse.


4Q
http://fourq.host.sk/chars/Dustin_Cook/

[kurt wismer]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> kurt wismer <kurtw@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:eu7kb3$5nm$5
[snip]
>> not vx? that would be like saying i'm not av... just because someone is
>> willing to tear his peers a new one doesn't mean he doesn't hold the
>> same ideals as they do... who is it, after all, that's trying to get
> the
>> band back together (in a manner of speaking)?
>>
>> plus, why would a non-vx'er have been given the rights to boot people
>> from #virus?
>
> 4Q isn't vx nor is he av, and I'm doubtful he'd claim otherwise. He's
> more of an outside commentator, peeking in and giving his 2 cents about
> what he sees.

sorry, i've seen too much of him over the years and seen him too
embedded in the clique at the center of the vx to accept the notion that
he's just peeking in...

perhaps we're using vx to mean different things - i'm not talking about
virus coders specifically, although the clique was composed mostly of
those, but rather those who are pro-virus-exchange... 4q has been pretty
unambiguous in the past about the connection he sees between computer
viruses and his main interest in artificial life...

> You do not have to be a vxer to get ops in #virus; You just have to be
> friends with someone who is already an op. Did you think #virus was
> really strict? Years ago, I remember it was, but that was a long time
> ago.

years ago is when i was talking about... and his words/actions were
towards the benefit of the vx community...

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"

[kurt wismer]

Leythos wrote:
[snip]
> Having worked with LE for years, many, concerning internet/network related
> crimes, I'm very aware of the types of people that can't be cured of their
> mind-set, but, I've also seen many "hackers" change and remain good
> people. I'm fully aware of Dustin's past, but I have not seen anything to
> indicate that he's currently a problem. For 4Q to bring Davids name into
> it is completely uncalled for and a sign that 4Q is not being honest and
> is paraniod or out for blood rather than the truth.

well, duh... you don't really think someone who is proud to call
themselves a troll would really be interested in the truth, do you?

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"

[4Q]

kurt wismer wrote:
> Leythos wrote:
> [snip]
> > Having worked with LE for years, many, concerning internet/network related
> > crimes, I'm very aware of the types of people that can't be cured of their
> > mind-set, but, I've also seen many "hackers" change and remain good
> > people. I'm fully aware of Dustin's past, but I have not seen anything to
> > indicate that he's currently a problem. For 4Q to bring Davids name into
> > it is completely uncalled for and a sign that 4Q is not being honest and
> > is paraniod or out for blood rather than the truth.
>
> well, duh... you don't really think someone who is proud to call
> themselves a troll

*twat!* I'm an uber troll ;]]

>would really be interested in the truth, >do you?

The truth about Lipman spreading malware
to sociopathic criminal virus/malware
spreaders with a long history of abuse?
Yeah actually I'd be quite interested to
hear Lipman's side of the story, I'm sure
other people that rely on the integrity
of these purported saviours of computer
privacy would be interested too.
Perhaps David could make a guest
appearance and quell the rumors.


4Q (super troll)
http://fourq.host.sk/INFO/

[Dustin Cook]

On Mar 26, 4:19 am, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> kurt wismer wrote:
> > Leythos wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > Having worked with LE for years, many, concerning internet/network related
> > > crimes, I'm very aware of the types of people that can't be cured of their
> > > mind-set, but, I've also seen many "hackers" change and remain good
> > > people. I'm fully aware of Dustin's past, but I have not seen anything to
> > > indicate that he's currently a problem. For 4Q to bring Davids name into
> > > it is completely uncalled for and a sign that 4Q is not being honest and
> > > is paraniod or out for blood rather than the truth.
>
> > well, duh... you don't really think someone who is proud to call
> > themselves a troll
>
> *twat!* I'm an uber troll ;]]
>
> >would really be interested in the truth, >do you?
>
> spreaders with a long history of abuse?

That's the whole point, 4Q. A history of abuse which stopped by all
accounts in 2000. You don't have anything even remotely close to
current to attack me with. You couldn't even locate more recent
interviews. I didn't give many, even then. It never was fame I was
in search of, dimwit. LoL.

Whatever I did 7+ years ago is in the past, I can't take it back. The
only thing I can do is not do it again, and return something to the
community that I interfered with in the first place. What can you
claim to have done in the last 7 years?

This will be my final reply to you for awhile, Your already killfiled
in my newsclient... *shrug*

Have a nice day, 4Q.

--
Dustin Cook
http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk

[Dustin Cook]

On Mar 25, 11:37 pm, kurt wismer <k...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Leythos wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Having worked with LE for years, many, concerning internet/network related
> > crimes, I'm very aware of the types of people that can't be cured of their
> > mind-set, but, I've also seen many "hackers" change and remain good
> > people. I'm fully aware of Dustin's past, but I have not seen anything to
> > indicate that he's currently a problem. For 4Q to bring Davids name into
> > it is completely uncalled for and a sign that 4Q is not being honest and
> > is paraniod or out for blood rather than the truth.
>
> well, duh... you don't really think someone who is proud to call
> themselves a troll would really be interested in the truth, do you?

In all fairness to the sorry weasel, He doesn't specialize in outright
lies. He does intentionally mislead persons by quoting things out of
context and obviously showing a sided viewpoint.

--
Dustin Cook
http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk

[4Q]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> On Mar 25, 11:37 pm, kurt wismer <k...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > Leythos wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Having worked with LE for years, many, concerning internet/network related
> > > crimes, I'm very aware of the types of people that can't be cured of their
> > > mind-set, but, I've also seen many "hackers" change and remain good
> > > people. I'm fully aware of Dustin's past, but I have not seen anything to
> > > indicate that he's currently a problem. For 4Q to bring Davids name into
> > > it is completely uncalled for and a sign that 4Q is not being honest and
> > > is paraniod or out for blood rather than the truth.
> >
> > well, duh... you don't really think someone who is proud to call
> > themselves a troll would really be interested in the truth, do you?
>
> In all fairness to the sorry weasel,

"weasel"? *shrug* It's a sorry day when
you drop so low as to call me a weasel,
I remember better days when you held me
in higher regard, referring to me as
"a slippery little ****er" *Oh, the loss*
:[

> He doesn't specialize in outright
> lies. He does intentionally mislead persons by quoting things out of
> context and obviously showing a sided viewpoint.
>

You mean out of context by printing your
quoted text, adding a barb and including
a reference to the original message?

Please stop crying Dustbin, you're making
my heart bleed for you! :]]


4Q
http://fourq.host.sk/chars/Dustin_Cook/ <-- teh troowth

[4Q]

optikl wrote:
> "Leythos" <Void@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:1174825656_2469@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> > On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:54:01 -0700, 4Q wrote:
> >>
> >> Meanwhile you
> >> are dodging the real focus of this
> >> thread which is to assertain if David
> >> has spread malware to a R-E-A-L irresponsible
> >> loon, Dustin Cook.
> >
> > Until you show me that Dustin is a crook I can't accept your ideas or your
> > methods. As best I can tell, Dustin is a stand-up person, repented for
> > anything he may have done, and has been absolved for his past issues.
> >
> > I think you need to learn that people can change, read that as Grow Up,
> > and become responsible adults, it happens all the time.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Leythos
> > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
>
> That's funny. I'd suggest you do some googling of long ago posts in ACV,
> like "RAiD+ I hate people+January 1, 1999 to December 31, 2001", for
> starters. Also for the same period "Dustin Cook + Graham Cluely". Maybe you
> believe in sociopaths and liars redeeming themselves, like changing clothes.

Here's an interesting one regarding Irok
virus. Here he describes how he wrote it
because he hates people. (always has,
always will - after all Dustin Cook is
a true sociopath)

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...de21bad4943e85

There is lots of evidence like this of
the real sociopath Dustin Cook (aka Raid)

And let's not forget his maliciousness
towards Rhonda Lea Kirk a few months back
when he printed her name & address into
alt.sex newsgroups and asked perverts to
stalk her in real life. Sociopathic Outer
filth that he is.


> Evidence abounds from numerous studies on criminal and deviant behavior to
> suggest otherwise. Take this as constructive criticism, not a slag or a
> troll.

He's always been a deviant and he still
continues to be one. This BugHunter****
bollocks is a front, maybe Leythos and
the other sychophants have forgotten
that Raidy runs a distribution network
( HHI ) for illegal download of films & music, amongst other things.
And it's not
because he is philanthropic, it's a
selfish mechanism used as a form of
currency to buy favour with other
network traders (for whatever their
stolen goods happen to be). Nice criminal
friends you've got there Leythos ;]]