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    George Orwell Guest

    Kaspersky rips Windows Vista UAC

    ZDNet.co.uk
    http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1...9286362,00.htm

    Security company Kaspersky claims that Vista's User Account Control
    (UAC) http://************/kaspersky_rips , the system of user privileges
    that can be used to restrict users' administrative rights, will be so
    annoying that users will disable it.

    Speaking to ZDNet UK at the CeBIT 2007 show in Hanover Germany, Natalya
    Kaspersky http://************/natalya , the company's chief executive,
    said, "Windows Vista with UAC disabled will be less secure than XP SP2.
    There's a question mark if Vista security has improved, or has really
    dropped down."

    Kaspersky provides one of the scanning engines in ForeFront,
    Microsoft's business security product.

    Arno Edelmann, business security product manager for Microsoft, said
    that Kaspersky's claims were surprising. "We have a thriving community
    of partners, and Kasperky is one of our best partners," Edelmann told
    ZDNet UK. "I find their statements a little strange because they have
    one of the best insights into Microsoft security products."

    Kaspersky also added her voice to Symantec and McAfee complaints that
    PatchGuard, designed to protect the Vista kernel, is hindering security
    companies' work.

    "PatchGuard doesn't allow legitimate security vendors to do what we
    used to do," said Kaspersky.

    Symantec has claimed that PatchGuard is hurting security vendors more
    than it was hurting malware writers. Bruce McCorkendale, a chief
    engineer at Symantec, said: "There are types of security policies and
    next-generation security products that can only work through some of
    the mechanisms that PatchGuard prohibits."

    Eugene Kaspersky, the company founder, said on Thursday that while
    vendors had to interact with Vista legitimately, hackers were under no
    such constraints.

    "Cybercriminals seem not to care about Vista licensing," said Eugene
    Kaspersky. "They don't need to follow regulations or be certified by
    Microsoft — antivirus vendors do."


  2. #2
    Leythos Guest

    Re: Kaspersky rips Windows Vista UAC

    On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:04:41 +0100, George Orwell wrote:
    >
    > Security company Kaspersky claims that Vista's User Account Control
    > (UAC) http://************/kaspersky_rips , the system of user privileges
    > that can be used to restrict users' administrative rights, will be so
    > annoying that users will disable it.


    Yep, I can believe that.

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    Default User Guest

    Re: Kaspersky rips Windows Vista UAC

    On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:04:41 +0100 (CET), George Orwell
    <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:

    >ZDNet.co.uk
    >http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1...9286362,00.htm
    >
    >Security company Kaspersky claims that Vista's User Account Control
    >(UAC) http://************/kaspersky_rips , the system of user privileges
    >that can be used to restrict users' administrative rights, will be so
    >annoying that users will disable it.
    >
    >Speaking to ZDNet UK at the CeBIT 2007 show in Hanover Germany, Natalya
    >Kaspersky http://************/natalya , the company's chief executive,
    >said, "Windows Vista with UAC disabled will be less secure than XP SP2.
    >There's a question mark if Vista security has improved, or has really
    >dropped down."
    >
    >Kaspersky provides one of the scanning engines in ForeFront,
    >Microsoft's business security product.
    >
    >Arno Edelmann, business security product manager for Microsoft, said
    >that Kaspersky's claims were surprising. "We have a thriving community
    >of partners, and Kasperky is one of our best partners," Edelmann told
    >ZDNet UK. "I find their statements a little strange because they have
    >one of the best insights into Microsoft security products."


    D'oh! Arno doesn't seem to be too bright. Of course Kaspersky has one of
    the best insights into Microsoft security products, and they just gave
    honest facts about Vista. Perhaps it's the "honest" part of it that has M$
    *****s stumped.

    >Kaspersky also added her voice to Symantec and McAfee complaints that
    >PatchGuard, designed to protect the Vista kernel, is hindering security
    >companies' work.
    >
    >"PatchGuard doesn't allow legitimate security vendors to do what we
    >used to do," said Kaspersky.
    >
    >Symantec has claimed that PatchGuard is hurting security vendors more
    >than it was hurting malware writers. Bruce McCorkendale, a chief
    >engineer at Symantec, said: "There are types of security policies and
    >next-generation security products that can only work through some of
    >the mechanisms that PatchGuard prohibits."
    >
    >Eugene Kaspersky, the company founder, said on Thursday that while
    >vendors had to interact with Vista legitimately, hackers were under no
    >such constraints.
    >
    >"Cybercriminals seem not to care about Vista licensing," said Eugene
    >Kaspersky. "They don't need to follow regulations or be certified by
    >Microsoft — antivirus vendors do."


    Microsoft has purposefully made it difficult for third-party security
    vendors to interface with Vista because M$ want's people to buy security
    products from M$.

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    Tom Horsley Guest

    Re: Kaspersky rips Windows Vista UAC

    On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:04:41 +0100 (CET)
    George Orwell <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:

    > Security company Kaspersky claims that Vista's User Account Control
    > (UAC) http://************/kaspersky_rips , the system of user privileges
    > that can be used to restrict users' administrative rights, will be so
    > annoying that users will disable it.


    Where was he when XP came out? XP was already so annoying that every
    user always runs as administrator. How could they make Vista more
    annoying? :-).

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    cmsix Guest

    Re: Kaspersky rips Windows Vista UAC


    "Tom Horsley" <tom.horsley@att.net> wrote in message
    news:20070322205939.71eac67d@zooty...
    > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:04:41 +0100 (CET)
    > George Orwell <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
    >
    >> Security company Kaspersky claims that Vista's User Account Control
    >> (UAC) http://************/kaspersky_rips , the system of user privileges
    >> that can be used to restrict users' administrative rights, will be so
    >> annoying that users will disable it.

    >
    > Where was he when XP came out? XP was already so annoying that every
    > user always runs as administrator. How could they make Vista more
    > annoying? :-).


    They are dedicated to their work.

    cmsix



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    Dustin Cook Guest

    Re: Kaspersky rips Windows Vista UAC

    Tom Horsley <tom.horsley@att.net> wrote in
    news:20070322205939.71eac67d@zooty:

    > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:04:41 +0100 (CET)
    > George Orwell <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
    >
    >> Security company Kaspersky claims that Vista's User Account Control
    >> (UAC) http://************/kaspersky_rips , the system of user privileges
    >> that can be used to restrict users' administrative rights, will be so
    >> annoying that users will disable it.

    >
    > Where was he when XP came out? XP was already so annoying that every
    > user always runs as administrator. How could they make Vista more
    > annoying? :-).
    >


    Something would like to open control panel. Allow or Deny?


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