Antivirus Companies Fighting Unwinnable War?

[kurt wismer]

Aunti Virus wrote:
> In article <lshMh.6760$YD.955@trnddc06>
> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>> From: "Aunti Virus" <"auntivyrus ATnym.panta-rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>

>> | Of course it's not possible. Anti-Virus companies are the primary source
>> | of viruses. They create them and then release them into the wild through a
>> | wide variety of means and then charge customers all the market will bear to
>> | remove the threat.
>> |
>> | The ONLY honest AV companies are the one's whose product is 100% free for
>> | the user. If you pay for an AV product, you are paying blackmail.
>> |
>>
>> If you believe that ****, I have a bridge to sell you!
>
> Why is it so hard to believe?

it presupposes that they would *need* to do that... that there aren't
enough people making malware for their own reasons that the av companies
have to get in on it to justify their existence...

anyone with half a clue in this field knows that there are in fact many
people willing to make malware without any connection to the anti-virus
industry whatsoever... there's no shortage of malware writers out there
so there's no need for the anti-virus industry to pick up the slack...

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"

[Aunti Virus]

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kurt wismer <kurtw@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> Aunti Virus wrote:
> > In article <lshMh.6760$YD.955@trnddc06>
> > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
> >> From: "Aunti Virus" <"auntivyrus ATnym.panta-rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>
>
> >> | Of course it's not possible. Anti-Virus companies are the primary source
> >> | of viruses. They create them and then release them into the wild through a
> >> | wide variety of means and then charge customers all the market will bear to
> >> | remove the threat.
> >> |
> >> | The ONLY honest AV companies are the one's whose product is 100% free for
> >> | the user. If you pay for an AV product, you are paying blackmail.
> >> |
> >>
> >> If you believe that ****, I have a bridge to sell you!
> >
> > Why is it so hard to believe?
>
> it presupposes that they would *need* to do that... that there aren't
> enough people making malware for their own reasons that the av companies
> have to get in on it to justify their existence...
>
> anyone with half a clue in this field knows that there are in fact many
> people willing to make malware without any connection to the anti-virus
> industry whatsoever... there's no shortage of malware writers out there
> so there's no need for the anti-virus industry to pick up the slack...

I don't believe it is a matter of the industry needing to do things like
this so much as it is one of them doing it out of greed.

I'm not saying all of them are doing it, nor is it evil to be in business
and make a profit. Simply that I believe the largest several are doing a
microsoft and trying to help themselves grow by creating a need that only
they can fill

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[badgolferman]

Aunti Virus, 3/22/2007,2:40:06 AM, wrote:

> Just like the oil industry deliberatly slows production to raise
> prices. There is not and never has been any genuine shortage of oil.

Learn a little bit about economics before making up stories like this.

> There is enough in Alaska alone to power the entire western
> hemisphere for 10,000,000 years.

Is that the same Alaska that environmentalists are preventing us from
drilling for oil that would make us less dependent on the Middle
Eastern tyrants who continue to fund terrorists? Place the blame where
it belongs, not with corporations who are selling you a product you
want.

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“Get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything.” ~
Frank Dane

[cmsix]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:lshMh.6760$YD.955@trnddc06...
> From: "Aunti Virus" <"auntivyrus
> ATnym.panta-rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>
>
>
> |
> | Of course it's not possible. Anti-Virus companies are the primary
> source
> | of viruses. They create them and then release them into the wild
> through a
> | wide variety of means and then charge customers all the market will bear
> to
> | remove the threat.
> |
> | The ONLY honest AV companies are the one's whose product is 100% free
> for
> | the user. If you pay for an AV product, you are paying blackmail.
> |
>
> If you believe that ****, I have a bridge to sell you!

He couldn't have any money to buy a bridge, he's honest and he's doing all
his work for free. Right on, Comrade.

Can't you see that he has joined alt.privacy.spyware and is providing plenty
of outdated rhetoric and fresh bull****, and all for free.

cmsix

>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>

[nashraf.nasa@gmail.com]

On Mar 22, 4:14 am, Aunti Virus <"auntivyrus ATnym.panta-
rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org> wrote:
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> George Orwell <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
>
> > idm.net.au
> >http://************/1dcj3
>
> > March 19, 2007: According to experts at this week s CeBit exhibition in
> > Hannover, Germany, winning the war against malicious software may not
> > be possible.
>
> Of course it's not possible. Anti-Virus companies are the primary source
> of viruses. They create them and then release them into the wild through a
> wide variety of means and then charge customers all the market will bear to
> remove the threat.
>
> The ONLY honest AV companies are the one's whose product is 100% free for
> the user. If you pay for an AV product, you are paying blackmail.
>
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I dont think arm chair view applies here.

[badgolferman]

George Orwell, 3/18/2007,11:20:05 PM, wrote:

> and suggested a way of dealing with the
> problem could be via the establishment of a UN body that would act as
> “a sort of internet Interpol.”......
> ----------
> A UN body? Man, that's what I call desperate.

No doubt. What has the UN been able to accomplish without corruption
or the help of the US so far?