Antivirus Companies Fighting Unwinnable War?

[Dustin Cook]

kurt wismer <kurtw@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:etnmjf$pnv$1@aioe.org:

> James Egan wrote:
>> On 19 Mar 2007 15:19:26 -0700, "4Q" <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder what my Anti-Virus friends
>>> KWismer, DCook, DLipman, AKopp et al have
>>> got to say.
>>
>> If they adopt your timescales any reply might come in about 10 years
>> time, if you're lucky.
>
> not sure what that's supposed to mean...
>
> at any rate winning and losing are nonsense concepts in this context
> (http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.com...ing-or-losing-
> or-have-we.html),
> automation in malware analysis will only improve over time
> (http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.com...rwhelming-numb
> ers.html), and more generally a multi-layered defense is better than a
> single point of defense so users should complement their blacklists
> with whitelists
> (http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.com...m-has-found-hi
> s-saviour-or.html and
> http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.com...s-not-faulty-b
> urglar-alarm.html)...
>
> and since the disreputable representative from my killfile once
> promised me a troll-shrine, i'm surprised he'd have to wonder about
> what i'd say to such things...
>

Hey man! I got a scratchpad! I'm moving up in the world


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[optikl]

"George Orwell" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
message news:25a0a73a794e984d2f18a0ac1349dc22@mixmaster.it ...
> idm.net.au
> http://************/1dcj3
>
> March 19, 2007: According to experts at this week's CeBit exhibition in
> Hannover, Germany, winning the war against malicious software may not
> be possible.
>
> Addressing the exhibition late last week, Eugene Kaspersky or Russia's
> Kaspersky Labs remarked that "If the growth in malware continues at the
> current pace, makers of anti-virus software
> http://************/useless_software may not be able to withstand the
> onslaught."
>
Rumor has it Donald Rumsfeld has accepted the CTO position with Symantec.
Now we'll the war on malware escalate. Rumsfeld is committed to allocating
huge expenditures (several thousands of dollars) to the war on malware.

[Aunti Virus]

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>
> idm.net.au
> http://************/1dcj3
>
> March 19, 2007: According to experts at this weeks CeBit exhibition in
> Hannover, Germany, winning the war against malicious software may not
> be possible.

Of course it's not possible. Anti-Virus companies are the primary source
of viruses. They create them and then release them into the wild through a
wide variety of means and then charge customers all the market will bear to
remove the threat.

The ONLY honest AV companies are the one's whose product is 100% free for
the user. If you pay for an AV product, you are paying blackmail.

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From: "Aunti Virus" <"auntivyrus ATnym.panta-rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>


|
| Of course it's not possible. Anti-Virus companies are the primary source
| of viruses. They create them and then release them into the wild through a
| wide variety of means and then charge customers all the market will bear to
| remove the threat.
|
| The ONLY honest AV companies are the one's whose product is 100% free for
| the user. If you pay for an AV product, you are paying blackmail.
|

If you believe that ****, I have a bridge to sell you!

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[Aunti Virus]

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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>
> From: "Aunti Virus" <"auntivyrus ATnym.panta-rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>
>
>
> |
> | Of course it's not possible. Anti-Virus companies are the primary source
> | of viruses. They create them and then release them into the wild through a
> | wide variety of means and then charge customers all the market will bear to
> | remove the threat.
> |
> | The ONLY honest AV companies are the one's whose product is 100% free for
> | the user. If you pay for an AV product, you are paying blackmail.
> |
>
> If you believe that ****, I have a bridge to sell you!

Why is it so hard to believe?

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to kill me.

...or write viruses to keep themselves in business

Just like the oil industry deliberatly slows production to raise prices.
There is not and never has been any genuine shortage of oil. There is
enough in Alaska alone to power the entire western hemisphere for
10,000,000 years.

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[Bud]

> enough in Alaska alone to power the entire western hemisphere for
> 10,000,000 years.

Oh, ****! THEN what'll we do?

[Heather]

"Aunti Virus" <"auntivyrus
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> In article <lshMh.6760$YD.955@trnddc06>
> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>>
>> From: "Aunti Virus" <"auntivyrus
>> ATnym.panta-rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>
>>
>>
>> |
>> | Of course it's not possible. Anti-Virus companies are the primary
>> source
>> | of viruses. They create them and then release them into the wild
>> through a
>> | wide variety of means and then charge customers all the market will
>> bear to
>> | remove the threat.
>> |
>> | The ONLY honest AV companies are the one's whose product is 100%
>> free for
>> | the user. If you pay for an AV product, you are paying blackmail.
>> |
>>
>> If you believe that ****, I have a bridge to sell you!
>
> Why is it so hard to believe?

Because you are *dead* wrong??? That word will definitely not help your
paranoia....
>
> Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to kill me.
> ..or write viruses to keep themselves in business

Every once in a while, some dingbat (or dickhead) comes up with this
amazing theory about antivirus companies......now go away and put on
your tinfoil hat. IDIOT!!

hf

[Aunti Virus]

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"Heather" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> "Aunti Virus" <"auntivyrus
> ATnym.panta-rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org> wrote in
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> > In article <lshMh.6760$YD.955@trnddc06>
> > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: "Aunti Virus" <"auntivyrus
> >> ATnym.panta-rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>
> >>
> >>
> >> |
> >> | Of course it's not possible. Anti-Virus companies are the primary
> >> | source of viruses. They create them and then release them into the
> >> | wild through a wide variety of means and then charge customers all
> >> | the market will bear to remove the threat.
> >> |
> >> | The ONLY honest AV companies are the one's whose product is 100%
> >> | free for the user. If you pay for an AV product, you are paying
> >> | blackmail.
> >> |
> >>
> >> If you believe that ****, I have a bridge to sell you!
> >
> > Why is it so hard to believe?
>
> Because you are *dead* wrong??? That word will definitely not help your
> paranoia....
> >
> > Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to kill me.
> > ..or write viruses to keep themselves in business
>
> Every once in a while, some dingbat (or dickhead) comes up with this
> amazing theory about antivirus companies......now go away and put on
> your tinfoil hat. IDIOT!!
>
> hf

Just because you don't like me saying it doesn't change the fact that it's
true.

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From: "Aunti Virus" <"auntivyrus ATnym.panta-rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>


|
| Why is it so hard to believe?
|
| Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to kill me.
|
| ..or write viruses to keep themselves in business
|
| Just like the oil industry deliberatly slows production to raise prices.
| There is not and never has been any genuine shortage of oil. There is
| enough in Alaska alone to power the entire western hemisphere for
| 10,000,000 years.
|

Because the biggest promoter of malware is organized crime.


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[Aunti Virus]

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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>
> From: "Aunti Virus" <"auntivyrus ATnym.panta-rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org>
>
>
> |
> | Why is it so hard to believe?
> |
> | Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to kill me.
> |
> | ..or write viruses to keep themselves in business
> |
> | Just like the oil industry deliberatly slows production to raise prices.
> | There is not and never has been any genuine shortage of oil. There is
> | enough in Alaska alone to power the entire western hemisphere for
> | 10,000,000 years.
> |
>
> Because the biggest promoter of malware is organized crime.
>

Yeah? According to who? The anti virus companies?

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