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  1. #11
    Kadaitcha Man Guest

    Re: PING FNVW

    Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou sourest-natured dog that
    lives. Thou garbage hauler. Thou wretched puling fool. Wretched, bloody
    and usurping boar. Ye yowled and ye dislodged:

    > "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:dadmz8$wv3$1@hulking-baubles.net
    >> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou noxious death's head with
    >> a bone in his mouth. Thou potato-headed haught insulting man. Thou
    >> musty slave whose gall coins slanders like a mint. Thou broken-down
    >> fishwife. Ye regurgitated and ye stage-whispered:
    >>
    >>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:ii2boy$b4t$j@insufficient-fog-lights.org
    >>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou wanton and effeminate
    >>>> boy. When thou is best, thou is a little worse than a man, and when
    >>>> thou is worst, thou is little better than a beast. Thou inexecrable
    >>>> dog. That were to enlard thy fat already pride. Ye hassled and ye
    >>>> reviled:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:8vlmcf$cck$0@worn-out-kahunas.net
    >>>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou good-for-nothing
    >>>>>> bloody cannibal. Thou burr-headed paltry. Thou old feeble
    >>>>>> carrion. Thou gilded-loam. Ye spritzed and ye warned:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:et0drt$f1b$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com
    >>>>>>>> miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> Thou fickle changeling. Thou
    >>>>>>>> pale-faced, raw-boned mad-headed ape. Thou fitful idle weed.
    >>>>>>>> Thou waxy-faced gnawing animal. Ye vacillated and ye nagged:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> You stupid circus freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign
    >>>>>>>>> of questionable literacy<*****SLAP>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Is that so, cranston?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/f.html
    >>>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...ronouns01.html
    >>>>>>>> http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/re.../multiple.html
    >>>>>>>> faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/westbury/Paradigm/hullen.html
    >>>>>>>> esl.about.com/od/englishlistening/a/listen_tips.htm
    >>>>>>>> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/registry/events...ation/hc-2005/
    >>>>>>>> http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org...iko_angla.html
    >>>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...e/firstly.html
    >>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/le...00008600.shtml
    >>>>>>>> www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/grammar.html
    >>>>>>>> www.cl.ut.ee/ee/yllitised/first/lummeerilt.html
    >>>>>>>> http://www.english-online.org.uk/eng...g/profblog.php
    >>>>>>>> www.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/leaphrt1.htm
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> There are approximately 670,000 other pages, many from other
    >>>>>>>> reputable organisations as those above, that say you're a
    >>>>>>>> ****wit, cranston. Firstly, you are a ****wit. Secondly, you
    >>>>>>>> always were a ****wit.
    >>>>>>>> Thirdly, you will always be a ****wit, you ****wit.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/inde...?date=20010629
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> [...]
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "Most usage authorities during the last half century, from
    >>>>>>> Wilson Follett and Jacques Barzun (Modern American Usage, 1966)
    >>>>>>> to The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999), have
    >>>>>>> pretty much agreed with your professor and recommended "No
    >>>>>>> -ly," on the grounds that the extra syllable is...well...extra.
    >>>>>>> A current, highly regarded usage book that remains neutral,
    >>>>>>> acknowledging (with many citations) the historicity of both
    >>>>>>> varieties, is Merriam Webster's Dictionary of English Usage."
    >>>>>>> [...]
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Well, clearly crasston lacks that.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Since first is a perfectly
    >>>>>>> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly. As
    >>>>>>> E.B. White put it in the chapter he contributed to Strunk and
    >>>>>>> White's The Elements of Style (1959): "Do not dress words up by
    >>>>>>> adding 'ly' to them, as though putting a hat on a horse."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> 1959, huh? That would be a 1959 revision of the 1918 original,
    >>>>>> yes?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You apparently missed the paragraph above re Modern American Usage
    >>>>> (1966) and the New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999).
    >>>>
    >>>> No, I didn't miss it. I ignored it. I was hoping to avoid having to
    >>>> point out that the reference is to Modern American Usage (1966). It
    >>>> no doubt has to be called American and not English due to horrific
    >>>> butchering of the original language into an almost unrecognisable
    >>>> carcass stiffened rigid by nearly a hundred years of rigor mortis.
    >>>
    >>> Nonetheless, you are the only non-American-dialect speaker in this
    >>> particular subthread.

    >>
    >> Ah, you want to play your worn-out "this paricular subthread..."
    >> card. Nice foot-shuffle. Pity it only works on shutting up ****wits.
    >>
    >>> That's another way of saying that American rules
    >>> apply to American speakers.

    >>
    >> "It's usenet, Andre. What anyone tells anyone means nothing."
    >> Message-ID: <egmhhv$rnf$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>
    >>
    >> Perhaps you can impose your meaningless rules on someone who might
    >> take you seriously and capitulate.
    >>
    >>> So you may feel free to go ahead and use "firstly" to your heart's
    >>> content,

    >>
    >> Yes, I will; it goes without you needing to say so.
    >>
    >>> knowing full well that it grates on my ears like nails on the
    >>> blackboard.

    >>
    >> Post facto. Firstly, I know it now, and secondly, I use firstly and
    >> secondly often.
    >>
    >> Results 1 - 89 of 89 for author:kadaitcha firstly
    >> Results 1 - 100 of 136 for author:kadaitcha secondly
    >>
    >> If, by some sorry stretch of a wild imagination, you might mistakenly
    >> believe that I am prone to moderating my use of the English language
    >> merely to accomodate your failings then I suggest you lock me firmly
    >> in your krillfile because I most certainly will not do anything of
    >> the kind.

    >
    > <shrug> Suit yourself. Makes no never mind to me.


    In that case, how odd you should bring it up in the first place.

    >>>>>> Language is fluid, not static, and the assertion that crasston is
    >>>>>> a ****wit stands, irrespective of a near century-old book
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And two newer ones, as well as some books that are not available
    >>>>> online.
    >>>>
    >>>> It doesn't really matter. crasston asserted, "You stupid circus
    >>>> freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign of questionable
    >>>> literacy..."; your quote that "the choice is one of style" shot him
    >>>> down quite nicely, thank you very much.
    >>>
    >>> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style: Since first is a perfectly
    >>> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly."

    >>
    >> Given that the statement you want to put your store of nuts in
    >> relates to superfluousness, I'll mention that it is possible to take
    >> out eight full words, replace them with a single word, and add a
    >> dash of lemon, all without changing the meaning by one iota.
    >>
    >> So much for any implied authority on the superfluousness of two
    >> mere letters you thought it might hold.

    >
    > You chopped the quote in half and changed it's meaning;


    Not so. I chopped it by more than a third. The meaning of what I left
    untouched did not change, viz "Ultimately, the choice is one of style:" A
    mere change of focus is all it was.

    > I put it back
    > together again, nothing more.


    It my good fortune that you put it all back and afforded me an opportiunity
    to take another charge at it.

    > Your response to that is incomprehensible to me.


    Put it down to difficulties with English.

    >>>>>> and your curling toes.


    --
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    Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
    September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.

    Vescere puter subgalia meis.

    "Now I know what it is. Now I know what it means when an
    alt.usenet.kook x-post shows up."
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  2. #12
    Kadaitcha Man Guest

    Re: PING FNVW

    miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> Thou fleering tell-tale. Thou tottering,
    blasted unthrifty knave. Thou flycatcher. Thou potato-headed,
    barrel-scraping white-livered and red-faced slug. Ye popped out and ye
    dodged:

    > Kadaitcha Man wrote:
    >> miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> Thou fickle changeling. Thou pale-faced,
    >> raw-boned mad-headed ape. Thou fitful idle weed. Thou waxy-faced
    >> gnawing animal. Ye vacillated and ye nagged:
    >>
    >>> You stupid circus freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign of
    >>> questionable literacy<*****SLAP>

    >>
    >> Is that so, cranston?
    >>
    >> andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/f.html
    >> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...ronouns01.html
    >> http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/re.../multiple.html
    >> faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/westbury/Paradigm/hullen.html
    >> esl.about.com/od/englishlistening/a/listen_tips.htm
    >> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/registry/events...ation/hc-2005/
    >> http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org...iko_angla.html
    >> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...e/firstly.html
    >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/le...00008600.shtml
    >> www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/grammar.html
    >> www.cl.ut.ee/ee/yllitised/first/lummeerilt.html
    >> http://www.english-online.org.uk/eng...g/profblog.php
    >> www.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/leaphrt1.htm
    >>
    >> There are approximately 670,000 other pages, many from other
    >> reputable organisations as those above, that say you're a ****wit,
    >> cranston. Firstly, you are a ****wit. Secondly, you always were a
    >> ****wit.
    >> Thirdly, you will always be a ****wit, you ****wit.
    >>

    > LOL. Kept you busy for awhile, didn't it?


    No. I typed two words into google then hit a button to start the link
    scraper. But please, be my guest, keep your delusions.

    --
    alt.usenet.kooks - Hammer of Thor: February 2007.
    Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
    September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.

    Vescere puter subgalia meis.

    "Now I know what it is. Now I know what it means when an
    alt.usenet.kook x-post shows up."
    AOK in news:ermdlu$nli$1@registered.motzarella.org

  3. #13
    miguel Guest

    Re: PING FNVW

    Kadaitcha Man wrote:
    > Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou good-for-nothing bloody
    > cannibal. Thou burr-headed paltry. Thou old feeble carrion. Thou
    > gilded-loam. Ye spritzed and ye warned:
    >
    >> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:et0drt$f1b$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com
    >>> miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> Thou fickle changeling. Thou pale-faced,
    >>> raw-boned mad-headed ape. Thou fitful idle weed. Thou waxy-faced
    >>> gnawing animal. Ye vacillated and ye nagged:
    >>>
    >>>> You stupid circus freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign of
    >>>> questionable literacy<*****SLAP>
    >>> Is that so, cranston?
    >>>
    >>> andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/f.html
    >>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...ronouns01.html
    >>> http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/re.../multiple.html
    >>> faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/westbury/Paradigm/hullen.html
    >>> esl.about.com/od/englishlistening/a/listen_tips.htm
    >>> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/registry/events...ation/hc-2005/
    >>> http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org...iko_angla.html
    >>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...e/firstly.html
    >>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/le...00008600.shtml
    >>> www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/grammar.html
    >>> www.cl.ut.ee/ee/yllitised/first/lummeerilt.html
    >>> http://www.english-online.org.uk/eng...g/profblog.php
    >>> www.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/leaphrt1.htm
    >>>
    >>> There are approximately 670,000 other pages, many from other
    >>> reputable organisations as those above, that say you're a ****wit,
    >>> cranston. Firstly, you are a ****wit. Secondly, you always were a
    >>> ****wit.
    >>> Thirdly, you will always be a ****wit, you ****wit.

    >> http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/inde...?date=20010629
    >>
    >> [...]
    >>
    >> "Most usage authorities during the last half century, from Wilson
    >> Follett and Jacques Barzun (Modern American Usage, 1966) to The New
    >> York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999), have pretty much agreed
    >> with your professor and recommended "No -ly," on the grounds that the
    >> extra syllable is...well...extra. A current, highly regarded usage
    >> book that remains neutral, acknowledging (with many citations) the
    >> historicity of both varieties, is Merriam Webster's Dictionary of
    >> English Usage."
    >> [...]


    >> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style:


    > Well, clearly crasston lacks that.


    >> Since first is a perfectly
    >> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly. As E.B.
    >> White put it in the chapter he contributed to Strunk and White's The
    >> Elements of Style (1959): "Do not dress words up by adding 'ly' to
    >> them, as though putting a hat on a horse."


    > 1959, huh? That would be a 1959 revision of the 1918 original, yes? Language
    > is fluid, not static, and the assertion that crasston is a ****wit stands,
    > irrespective of a near century-old book and your curling toes.


    "Language is fluid, not static?"

    Thanks for that keen insight, dumbass he-*****.

    miguel

    ps I'm waiting for the pain to start.

    pps tapping foot . . .

  4. #14
    Rhonda Lea Kirk Guest

    Re: PING FNVW

    "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:sg88q7$1u3$j@pumping-howitzers.net.au
    > Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou sourest-natured dog that
    > lives. Thou garbage hauler. Thou wretched puling fool. Wretched,
    > bloody and usurping boar. Ye yowled and ye dislodged:
    >
    >> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:dadmz8$wv3$1@hulking-baubles.net
    >>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou noxious death's head with
    >>> a bone in his mouth. Thou potato-headed haught insulting man. Thou
    >>> musty slave whose gall coins slanders like a mint. Thou broken-down
    >>> fishwife. Ye regurgitated and ye stage-whispered:
    >>>
    >>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:ii2boy$b4t$j@insufficient-fog-lights.org
    >>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou wanton and effeminate
    >>>>> boy. When thou is best, thou is a little worse than a man, and
    >>>>> when thou is worst, thou is little better than a beast. Thou
    >>>>> inexecrable dog. That were to enlard thy fat already pride. Ye
    >>>>> hassled and ye reviled:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:8vlmcf$cck$0@worn-out-kahunas.net
    >>>>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou good-for-nothing
    >>>>>>> bloody cannibal. Thou burr-headed paltry. Thou old feeble
    >>>>>>> carrion. Thou gilded-loam. Ye spritzed and ye warned:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>> news:et0drt$f1b$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com
    >>>>>>>>> miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> Thou fickle changeling. Thou
    >>>>>>>>> pale-faced, raw-boned mad-headed ape. Thou fitful idle weed.
    >>>>>>>>> Thou waxy-faced gnawing animal. Ye vacillated and ye nagged:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> You stupid circus freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign
    >>>>>>>>>> of questionable literacy<*****SLAP>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Is that so, cranston?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/f.html
    >>>>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...ronouns01.html
    >>>>>>>>> http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/re.../multiple.html
    >>>>>>>>> faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/westbury/Paradigm/hullen.html
    >>>>>>>>> esl.about.com/od/englishlistening/a/listen_tips.htm
    >>>>>>>>> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/registry/events...ation/hc-2005/
    >>>>>>>>> http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org...iko_angla.html
    >>>>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...e/firstly.html
    >>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/le...00008600.shtml
    >>>>>>>>> www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/grammar.html
    >>>>>>>>> www.cl.ut.ee/ee/yllitised/first/lummeerilt.html
    >>>>>>>>> http://www.english-online.org.uk/eng...g/profblog.php
    >>>>>>>>> www.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/leaphrt1.htm
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> There are approximately 670,000 other pages, many from other
    >>>>>>>>> reputable organisations as those above, that say you're a
    >>>>>>>>> ****wit, cranston. Firstly, you are a ****wit. Secondly, you
    >>>>>>>>> always were a ****wit.
    >>>>>>>>> Thirdly, you will always be a ****wit, you ****wit.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/inde...?date=20010629
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> [...]
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "Most usage authorities during the last half century, from
    >>>>>>>> Wilson Follett and Jacques Barzun (Modern American Usage, 1966)
    >>>>>>>> to The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999), have
    >>>>>>>> pretty much agreed with your professor and recommended "No
    >>>>>>>> -ly," on the grounds that the extra syllable is...well...extra.
    >>>>>>>> A current, highly regarded usage book that remains neutral,
    >>>>>>>> acknowledging (with many citations) the historicity of both
    >>>>>>>> varieties, is Merriam Webster's Dictionary of English Usage."
    >>>>>>>> [...]
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Well, clearly crasston lacks that.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Since first is a perfectly
    >>>>>>>> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly. As
    >>>>>>>> E.B. White put it in the chapter he contributed to Strunk and
    >>>>>>>> White's The Elements of Style (1959): "Do not dress words up by
    >>>>>>>> adding 'ly' to them, as though putting a hat on a horse."
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> 1959, huh? That would be a 1959 revision of the 1918 original,
    >>>>>>> yes?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You apparently missed the paragraph above re Modern American
    >>>>>> Usage (1966) and the New York Times Manual of Style and Usage
    >>>>>> (1999).
    >>>>>
    >>>>> No, I didn't miss it. I ignored it. I was hoping to avoid having
    >>>>> to point out that the reference is to Modern American Usage
    >>>>> (1966). It no doubt has to be called American and not English due
    >>>>> to horrific butchering of the original language into an almost
    >>>>> unrecognisable carcass stiffened rigid by nearly a hundred years
    >>>>> of rigor mortis.
    >>>>
    >>>> Nonetheless, you are the only non-American-dialect speaker in this
    >>>> particular subthread.
    >>>
    >>> Ah, you want to play your worn-out "this paricular subthread..."
    >>> card. Nice foot-shuffle. Pity it only works on shutting up ****wits.
    >>>
    >>>> That's another way of saying that American rules
    >>>> apply to American speakers.
    >>>
    >>> "It's usenet, Andre. What anyone tells anyone means nothing."
    >>> Message-ID: <egmhhv$rnf$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>
    >>>
    >>> Perhaps you can impose your meaningless rules on someone who might
    >>> take you seriously and capitulate.
    >>>
    >>>> So you may feel free to go ahead and use "firstly" to your heart's
    >>>> content,
    >>>
    >>> Yes, I will; it goes without you needing to say so.
    >>>
    >>>> knowing full well that it grates on my ears like nails on the
    >>>> blackboard.
    >>>
    >>> Post facto. Firstly, I know it now, and secondly, I use firstly and
    >>> secondly often.
    >>>
    >>> Results 1 - 89 of 89 for author:kadaitcha firstly
    >>> Results 1 - 100 of 136 for author:kadaitcha secondly
    >>>
    >>> If, by some sorry stretch of a wild imagination, you might
    >>> mistakenly believe that I am prone to moderating my use of the
    >>> English language merely to accomodate your failings then I suggest
    >>> you lock me firmly in your krillfile because I most certainly will
    >>> not do anything of the kind.

    >>
    >> <shrug> Suit yourself. Makes no never mind to me.

    >
    > In that case, how odd you should bring it up in the first place.


    What's not odd is your attempt to twist the meaning of my words.

    >>>>>>> Language is fluid, not static, and the assertion that crasston
    >>>>>>> is a ****wit stands, irrespective of a near century-old book
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> And two newer ones, as well as some books that are not available
    >>>>>> online.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It doesn't really matter. crasston asserted, "You stupid circus
    >>>>> freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign of questionable
    >>>>> literacy..."; your quote that "the choice is one of style" shot
    >>>>> him down quite nicely, thank you very much.
    >>>>
    >>>> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style: Since first is a perfectly
    >>>> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly."
    >>>
    >>> Given that the statement you want to put your store of nuts in
    >>> relates to superfluousness, I'll mention that it is possible to take
    >>> out eight full words, replace them with a single word, and add a
    >>> dash of lemon, all without changing the meaning by one iota.
    >>>
    >>> So much for any implied authority on the superfluousness of two
    >>> mere letters you thought it might hold.

    >>
    >> You chopped the quote in half and changed it's meaning;

    >
    > Not so. I chopped it by more than a third. The meaning of what I left
    > untouched did not change, viz "Ultimately, the choice is one of
    > style:" A mere change of focus is all it was.
    >
    >> I put it back
    >> together again, nothing more.

    >
    > It my good fortune that you put it all back and afforded me an
    > opportiunity to take another charge at it.
    >
    >> Your response to that is incomprehensible to me.

    >
    > Put it down to difficulties with English.


    More like an inability to comprehend the disturbance in the ether that
    has you channeling Grif****.

    >>>>>>> and your curling toes.


    --
    Rhonda Lea Kirk

    Happiness limits the amount of suffering one is
    willing to inflict on others. Phèdre nó Delaunay



  5. #15
    miguel Guest

    Re: PING FNVW

    Kadaitcha Man wrote:
    > Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou wanton and effeminate boy.
    > When thou is best, thou is a little worse than a man, and when thou is
    > worst, thou is little better than a beast. Thou inexecrable dog. That
    > were to enlard thy fat already pride. Ye hassled and ye reviled:
    >
    >> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:8vlmcf$cck$0@worn-out-kahunas.net
    >>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou good-for-nothing bloody
    >>> cannibal. Thou burr-headed paltry. Thou old feeble carrion. Thou
    >>> gilded-loam. Ye spritzed and ye warned:
    >>>
    >>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:et0drt$f1b$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com
    >>>>> miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> Thou fickle changeling. Thou pale-faced,
    >>>>> raw-boned mad-headed ape. Thou fitful idle weed. Thou waxy-faced
    >>>>> gnawing animal. Ye vacillated and ye nagged:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> You stupid circus freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign of
    >>>>>> questionable literacy<*****SLAP>
    >>>>> Is that so, cranston?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/f.html
    >>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...ronouns01.html
    >>>>> http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/re.../multiple.html
    >>>>> faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/westbury/Paradigm/hullen.html
    >>>>> esl.about.com/od/englishlistening/a/listen_tips.htm
    >>>>> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/registry/events...ation/hc-2005/
    >>>>> http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org...iko_angla.html
    >>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...e/firstly.html
    >>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/le...00008600.shtml
    >>>>> www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/grammar.html
    >>>>> www.cl.ut.ee/ee/yllitised/first/lummeerilt.html
    >>>>> http://www.english-online.org.uk/eng...g/profblog.php
    >>>>> www.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/leaphrt1.htm
    >>>>>
    >>>>> There are approximately 670,000 other pages, many from other
    >>>>> reputable organisations as those above, that say you're a ****wit,
    >>>>> cranston. Firstly, you are a ****wit. Secondly, you always were a
    >>>>> ****wit.
    >>>>> Thirdly, you will always be a ****wit, you ****wit.
    >>>> http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/inde...?date=20010629
    >>>>
    >>>> [...]
    >>>>
    >>>> "Most usage authorities during the last half century, from Wilson
    >>>> Follett and Jacques Barzun (Modern American Usage, 1966) to The New
    >>>> York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999), have pretty much agreed
    >>>> with your professor and recommended "No -ly," on the grounds that
    >>>> the extra syllable is...well...extra. A current, highly regarded
    >>>> usage book that remains neutral, acknowledging (with many
    >>>> citations) the historicity of both varieties, is Merriam Webster's
    >>>> Dictionary of English Usage."
    >>>> [...]


    >>>> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style:


    >>> Well, clearly crasston lacks that.


    >>>> Since first is a perfectly
    >>>> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly. As E.B.
    >>>> White put it in the chapter he contributed to Strunk and White's The
    >>>> Elements of Style (1959): "Do not dress words up by adding 'ly' to
    >>>> them, as though putting a hat on a horse."


    >>> 1959, huh? That would be a 1959 revision of the 1918 original, yes?


    >> You apparently missed the paragraph above re Modern American Usage
    >> (1966) and the New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999).


    > No, I didn't miss it. I ignored it. I was hoping to avoid having to point
    > out that the reference is to Modern American Usage (1966). It no doubt has
    > to be called American and not English due to horrific butchering of the
    > original language into an almost unrecognisable carcass stiffened rigid by
    > nearly a hundred years of rigor mortis.


    >>> Language is fluid, not static, and the assertion that crasston is a
    >>> ****wit stands, irrespective of a near century-old book

    >> And two newer ones, as well as some books that are not available
    >> online.


    > It doesn't really matter. crasston asserted, "You stupid circus freak. First
    > (not "firstly," that's a sign of questionable literacy..."; your quote that
    > "the choice is one of style" shot him down quite nicely, thank you very
    > much.


    If you want to dress up your horses with funny hats, be my guest, Mr.
    questionable-literacy guy.

    miguel

  6. #16
    miguel Guest

    Re: PING FNVW

    Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
    > "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:ii2boy$b4t$j@insufficient-fog-lights.org
    >> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou wanton and effeminate boy.
    >> When thou is best, thou is a little worse than a man, and when thou is
    >> worst, thou is little better than a beast. Thou inexecrable dog. That
    >> were to enlard thy fat already pride. Ye hassled and ye reviled:
    >>
    >>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:8vlmcf$cck$0@worn-out-kahunas.net
    >>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou good-for-nothing bloody
    >>>> cannibal. Thou burr-headed paltry. Thou old feeble carrion. Thou
    >>>> gilded-loam. Ye spritzed and ye warned:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:et0drt$f1b$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com
    >>>>>> miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> Thou fickle changeling. Thou pale-faced,
    >>>>>> raw-boned mad-headed ape. Thou fitful idle weed. Thou waxy-faced
    >>>>>> gnawing animal. Ye vacillated and ye nagged:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> You stupid circus freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign of
    >>>>>>> questionable literacy<*****SLAP>
    >>>>>> Is that so, cranston?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/f.html
    >>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...ronouns01.html
    >>>>>> http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/re.../multiple.html
    >>>>>> faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/westbury/Paradigm/hullen.html
    >>>>>> esl.about.com/od/englishlistening/a/listen_tips.htm
    >>>>>> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/registry/events...ation/hc-2005/
    >>>>>> http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org...iko_angla.html
    >>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...e/firstly.html
    >>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/le...00008600.shtml
    >>>>>> www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/grammar.html
    >>>>>> www.cl.ut.ee/ee/yllitised/first/lummeerilt.html
    >>>>>> http://www.english-online.org.uk/eng...g/profblog.php
    >>>>>> www.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/leaphrt1.htm
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> There are approximately 670,000 other pages, many from other
    >>>>>> reputable organisations as those above, that say you're a ****wit,
    >>>>>> cranston. Firstly, you are a ****wit. Secondly, you always were a
    >>>>>> ****wit.
    >>>>>> Thirdly, you will always be a ****wit, you ****wit.
    >>>>> http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/inde...?date=20010629
    >>>>>
    >>>>> [...]
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Most usage authorities during the last half century, from Wilson
    >>>>> Follett and Jacques Barzun (Modern American Usage, 1966) to The New
    >>>>> York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999), have pretty much
    >>>>> agreed with your professor and recommended "No -ly," on the
    >>>>> grounds that the extra syllable is...well...extra. A current,
    >>>>> highly regarded usage book that remains neutral, acknowledging
    >>>>> (with many citations) the historicity of both varieties, is
    >>>>> Merriam Webster's Dictionary of English Usage."
    >>>>> [...]
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style:
    >>>> Well, clearly crasston lacks that.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Since first is a perfectly
    >>>>> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly. As
    >>>>> E.B. White put it in the chapter he contributed to Strunk and
    >>>>> White's The Elements of Style (1959): "Do not dress words up by
    >>>>> adding 'ly' to them, as though putting a hat on a horse."
    >>>> 1959, huh? That would be a 1959 revision of the 1918 original, yes?
    >>> You apparently missed the paragraph above re Modern American Usage
    >>> (1966) and the New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999).

    >> No, I didn't miss it. I ignored it. I was hoping to avoid having to
    >> point out that the reference is to Modern American Usage (1966). It
    >> no doubt has to be called American and not English due to horrific
    >> butchering of the original language into an almost unrecognisable
    >> carcass stiffened rigid by nearly a hundred years of rigor mortis.

    >
    > Nonetheless, you are the only non-American-dialect speaker in this
    > particular subthread. That's another way of saying that American rules
    > apply to American speakers.
    >
    > So you may feel free to go ahead and use "firstly" to your heart's
    > content, knowing full well that it grates on my ears like nails on the
    > blackboard.


    *I* would never treat you that harshly, dear.

    miguel

  7. #17
    Rhonda Lea Kirk Guest

    Re: PING FNVW

    "miguel" <mjc101@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:RMqdnbEBqIZzomnYnZ2dnUVZ_urinZ2d@comcast.com
    > Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
    >> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:ii2boy$b4t$j@insufficient-fog-lights.org
    >>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou wanton and effeminate
    >>> boy. When thou is best, thou is a little worse than a man, and when
    >>> thou is worst, thou is little better than a beast. Thou inexecrable
    >>> dog. That were to enlard thy fat already pride. Ye hassled and ye
    >>> reviled:
    >>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:8vlmcf$cck$0@worn-out-kahunas.net
    >>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou good-for-nothing bloody
    >>>>> cannibal. Thou burr-headed paltry. Thou old feeble carrion. Thou
    >>>>> gilded-loam. Ye spritzed and ye warned:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:et0drt$f1b$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com
    >>>>>>> miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> Thou fickle changeling. Thou
    >>>>>>> pale-faced, raw-boned mad-headed ape. Thou fitful idle weed.
    >>>>>>> Thou waxy-faced gnawing animal. Ye vacillated and ye nagged:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> You stupid circus freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign of
    >>>>>>>> questionable literacy<*****SLAP>
    >>>>>>> Is that so, cranston?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/f.html
    >>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...ronouns01.html
    >>>>>>> http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/re.../multiple.html
    >>>>>>> faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/westbury/Paradigm/hullen.html
    >>>>>>> esl.about.com/od/englishlistening/a/listen_tips.htm
    >>>>>>> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/registry/events...ation/hc-2005/
    >>>>>>> http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org...iko_angla.html
    >>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...e/firstly.html
    >>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/le...00008600.shtml
    >>>>>>> www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/grammar.html
    >>>>>>> www.cl.ut.ee/ee/yllitised/first/lummeerilt.html
    >>>>>>> http://www.english-online.org.uk/eng...g/profblog.php
    >>>>>>> www.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/leaphrt1.htm
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> There are approximately 670,000 other pages, many from other
    >>>>>>> reputable organisations as those above, that say you're a
    >>>>>>> ****wit, cranston. Firstly, you are a ****wit. Secondly, you
    >>>>>>> always were a ****wit.
    >>>>>>> Thirdly, you will always be a ****wit, you ****wit.
    >>>>>> http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/inde...?date=20010629
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> [...]
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "Most usage authorities during the last half century, from Wilson
    >>>>>> Follett and Jacques Barzun (Modern American Usage, 1966) to The
    >>>>>> New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999), have pretty much
    >>>>>> agreed with your professor and recommended "No -ly," on the
    >>>>>> grounds that the extra syllable is...well...extra. A current,
    >>>>>> highly regarded usage book that remains neutral, acknowledging
    >>>>>> (with many citations) the historicity of both varieties, is
    >>>>>> Merriam Webster's Dictionary of English Usage."
    >>>>>> [...]
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style:
    >>>>> Well, clearly crasston lacks that.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Since first is a perfectly
    >>>>>> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly. As
    >>>>>> E.B. White put it in the chapter he contributed to Strunk and
    >>>>>> White's The Elements of Style (1959): "Do not dress words up by
    >>>>>> adding 'ly' to them, as though putting a hat on a horse."
    >>>>> 1959, huh? That would be a 1959 revision of the 1918 original,
    >>>>> yes?
    >>>> You apparently missed the paragraph above re Modern American Usage
    >>>> (1966) and the New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999).
    >>> No, I didn't miss it. I ignored it. I was hoping to avoid having to
    >>> point out that the reference is to Modern American Usage (1966). It
    >>> no doubt has to be called American and not English due to horrific
    >>> butchering of the original language into an almost unrecognisable
    >>> carcass stiffened rigid by nearly a hundred years of rigor mortis.

    >>
    >> Nonetheless, you are the only non-American-dialect speaker in this
    >> particular subthread. That's another way of saying that American
    >> rules apply to American speakers.
    >>
    >> So you may feel free to go ahead and use "firstly" to your heart's
    >> content, knowing full well that it grates on my ears like nails on
    >> the blackboard.

    >
    > *I* would never treat you that harshly, dear.


    Molotov cocktail much?

    --
    Rhonda Lea Kirk

    Happiness limits the amount of suffering one is
    willing to inflict on others. Phèdre nó Delaunay



  8. #18
    miguel Guest

    Re: PING FNVW

    Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
    > "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:sg88q7$1u3$j@pumping-howitzers.net.au
    >> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou sourest-natured dog that
    >> lives. Thou garbage hauler. Thou wretched puling fool. Wretched,
    >> bloody and usurping boar. Ye yowled and ye dislodged:
    >>
    >>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:dadmz8$wv3$1@hulking-baubles.net
    >>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou noxious death's head with
    >>>> a bone in his mouth. Thou potato-headed haught insulting man. Thou
    >>>> musty slave whose gall coins slanders like a mint. Thou broken-down
    >>>> fishwife. Ye regurgitated and ye stage-whispered:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:ii2boy$b4t$j@insufficient-fog-lights.org
    >>>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou wanton and effeminate
    >>>>>> boy. When thou is best, thou is a little worse than a man, and
    >>>>>> when thou is worst, thou is little better than a beast. Thou
    >>>>>> inexecrable dog. That were to enlard thy fat already pride. Ye
    >>>>>> hassled and ye reviled:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:8vlmcf$cck$0@worn-out-kahunas.net
    >>>>>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou good-for-nothing
    >>>>>>>> bloody cannibal. Thou burr-headed paltry. Thou old feeble
    >>>>>>>> carrion. Thou gilded-loam. Ye spritzed and ye warned:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>> news:et0drt$f1b$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com
    >>>>>>>>>> miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> Thou fickle changeling. Thou
    >>>>>>>>>> pale-faced, raw-boned mad-headed ape. Thou fitful idle weed.
    >>>>>>>>>> Thou waxy-faced gnawing animal. Ye vacillated and ye nagged:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> You stupid circus freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign
    >>>>>>>>>>> of questionable literacy<*****SLAP>
    >>>>>>>>>> Is that so, cranston?
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/f.html
    >>>>>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...ronouns01.html
    >>>>>>>>>> http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/re.../multiple.html
    >>>>>>>>>> faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/westbury/Paradigm/hullen.html
    >>>>>>>>>> esl.about.com/od/englishlistening/a/listen_tips.htm
    >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/registry/events...ation/hc-2005/
    >>>>>>>>>> http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org...iko_angla.html
    >>>>>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...e/firstly.html
    >>>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/le...00008600.shtml
    >>>>>>>>>> www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/grammar.html
    >>>>>>>>>> www.cl.ut.ee/ee/yllitised/first/lummeerilt.html
    >>>>>>>>>> http://www.english-online.org.uk/eng...g/profblog.php
    >>>>>>>>>> www.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/leaphrt1.htm
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> There are approximately 670,000 other pages, many from other
    >>>>>>>>>> reputable organisations as those above, that say you're a
    >>>>>>>>>> ****wit, cranston. Firstly, you are a ****wit. Secondly, you
    >>>>>>>>>> always were a ****wit.
    >>>>>>>>>> Thirdly, you will always be a ****wit, you ****wit.
    >>>>>>>>> http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/inde...?date=20010629
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> [...]
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> "Most usage authorities during the last half century, from
    >>>>>>>>> Wilson Follett and Jacques Barzun (Modern American Usage, 1966)
    >>>>>>>>> to The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999), have
    >>>>>>>>> pretty much agreed with your professor and recommended "No
    >>>>>>>>> -ly," on the grounds that the extra syllable is...well...extra.
    >>>>>>>>> A current, highly regarded usage book that remains neutral,
    >>>>>>>>> acknowledging (with many citations) the historicity of both
    >>>>>>>>> varieties, is Merriam Webster's Dictionary of English Usage."
    >>>>>>>>> [...]
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style:
    >>>>>>>> Well, clearly crasston lacks that.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Since first is a perfectly
    >>>>>>>>> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly. As
    >>>>>>>>> E.B. White put it in the chapter he contributed to Strunk and
    >>>>>>>>> White's The Elements of Style (1959): "Do not dress words up by
    >>>>>>>>> adding 'ly' to them, as though putting a hat on a horse."
    >>>>>>>> 1959, huh? That would be a 1959 revision of the 1918 original,
    >>>>>>>> yes?
    >>>>>>> You apparently missed the paragraph above re Modern American
    >>>>>>> Usage (1966) and the New York Times Manual of Style and Usage
    >>>>>>> (1999).
    >>>>>> No, I didn't miss it. I ignored it. I was hoping to avoid having
    >>>>>> to point out that the reference is to Modern American Usage
    >>>>>> (1966). It no doubt has to be called American and not English due
    >>>>>> to horrific butchering of the original language into an almost
    >>>>>> unrecognisable carcass stiffened rigid by nearly a hundred years
    >>>>>> of rigor mortis.
    >>>>> Nonetheless, you are the only non-American-dialect speaker in this
    >>>>> particular subthread.
    >>>> Ah, you want to play your worn-out "this paricular subthread..."
    >>>> card. Nice foot-shuffle. Pity it only works on shutting up ****wits.
    >>>>
    >>>>> That's another way of saying that American rules
    >>>>> apply to American speakers.
    >>>> "It's usenet, Andre. What anyone tells anyone means nothing."
    >>>> Message-ID: <egmhhv$rnf$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>
    >>>>
    >>>> Perhaps you can impose your meaningless rules on someone who might
    >>>> take you seriously and capitulate.
    >>>>
    >>>>> So you may feel free to go ahead and use "firstly" to your heart's
    >>>>> content,
    >>>> Yes, I will; it goes without you needing to say so.
    >>>>
    >>>>> knowing full well that it grates on my ears like nails on the
    >>>>> blackboard.
    >>>> Post facto. Firstly, I know it now, and secondly, I use firstly and
    >>>> secondly often.
    >>>>
    >>>> Results 1 - 89 of 89 for author:kadaitcha firstly
    >>>> Results 1 - 100 of 136 for author:kadaitcha secondly
    >>>>
    >>>> If, by some sorry stretch of a wild imagination, you might
    >>>> mistakenly believe that I am prone to moderating my use of the
    >>>> English language merely to accomodate your failings then I suggest
    >>>> you lock me firmly in your krillfile because I most certainly will
    >>>> not do anything of the kind.
    >>> <shrug> Suit yourself. Makes no never mind to me.

    >> In that case, how odd you should bring it up in the first place.

    >
    > What's not odd is your attempt to twist the meaning of my words.
    >
    >>>>>>>> Language is fluid, not static, and the assertion that crasston
    >>>>>>>> is a ****wit stands, irrespective of a near century-old book
    >>>>>>> And two newer ones, as well as some books that are not available
    >>>>>>> online.
    >>>>>> It doesn't really matter. crasston asserted, "You stupid circus
    >>>>>> freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign of questionable
    >>>>>> literacy..."; your quote that "the choice is one of style" shot
    >>>>>> him down quite nicely, thank you very much.
    >>>>> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style: Since first is a perfectly
    >>>>> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly."
    >>>> Given that the statement you want to put your store of nuts in
    >>>> relates to superfluousness, I'll mention that it is possible to take
    >>>> out eight full words, replace them with a single word, and add a
    >>>> dash of lemon, all without changing the meaning by one iota.
    >>>>
    >>>> So much for any implied authority on the superfluousness of two
    >>>> mere letters you thought it might hold.
    >>> You chopped the quote in half and changed it's meaning;

    >> Not so. I chopped it by more than a third. The meaning of what I left
    >> untouched did not change, viz "Ultimately, the choice is one of
    >> style:" A mere change of focus is all it was.
    >>
    >>> I put it back
    >>> together again, nothing more.

    >> It my good fortune that you put it all back and afforded me an
    >> opportiunity to take another charge at it.
    >>
    >>> Your response to that is incomprehensible to me.

    >> Put it down to difficulties with English.

    >
    > More like an inability to comprehend the disturbance in the ether that
    > has you channeling Grif****.


    That was pretty harsh.

    I liked it.

    miguel

  9. #19
    miguel Guest

    Re: PING FNVW

    Kadaitcha Man, he-***** wrote:
    > Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com>:
    >> "Kadaitcha Man" he-*****
    >>> Rhonda Lea Kirk:
    >>>> "Kadaitcha Man" he-*****
    >>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk:
    >>>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" he-*****
    >>>>>>> miguel:


    >>>>>>>> You stupid circus freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign of
    >>>>>>>> questionable literacy<*****SLAP>
    >>>>>>> Is that so, cranston?


    >>>>>>> andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/f.html
    >>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...ronouns01.html
    >>>>>>> http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/re.../multiple.html
    >>>>>>> faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/westbury/Paradigm/hullen.html
    >>>>>>> esl.about.com/od/englishlistening/a/listen_tips.htm
    >>>>>>> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/registry/events...ation/hc-2005/
    >>>>>>> http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org...iko_angla.html
    >>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...e/firstly.html
    >>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/le...00008600.shtml
    >>>>>>> www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/grammar.html
    >>>>>>> www.cl.ut.ee/ee/yllitised/first/lummeerilt.html
    >>>>>>> http://www.english-online.org.uk/eng...g/profblog.php
    >>>>>>> www.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/leaphrt1.htm


    >>>>>>> There are approximately 670,000 other pages, many from other
    >>>>>>> reputable organisations as those above, that say you're a
    >>>>>>> ****wit, cranston. Firstly, you are a ****wit. Secondly, you
    >>>>>>> always were a ****wit.
    >>>>>>> Thirdly, you will always be a ****wit, you ****wit.
    >>>>>> http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/inde...?date=20010629


    >>>>>> [...]


    >>>>>> "Most usage authorities during the last half century, from Wilson
    >>>>>> Follett and Jacques Barzun (Modern American Usage, 1966) to The
    >>>>>> New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999), have pretty much
    >>>>>> agreed with your professor and recommended "No -ly," on the
    >>>>>> grounds that the extra syllable is...well...extra. A current,
    >>>>>> highly regarded usage book that remains neutral, acknowledging
    >>>>>> (with many citations) the historicity of both varieties, is
    >>>>>> Merriam Webster's Dictionary of English Usage."
    >>>>>> [...]


    >>>>>> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style:


    >>>>> Well, clearly crasston lacks that.


    >>>>>> Since first is a perfectly
    >>>>>> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly. As
    >>>>>> E.B. White put it in the chapter he contributed to Strunk and
    >>>>>> White's The Elements of Style (1959): "Do not dress words up by
    >>>>>> adding 'ly' to them, as though putting a hat on a horse."
    >>>>> 1959, huh? That would be a 1959 revision of the 1918 original, yes?
    >>>> You apparently missed the paragraph above re Modern American Usage
    >>>> (1966) and the New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999).
    >>> No, I didn't miss it. I ignored it. I was hoping to avoid having to
    >>> point out that the reference is to Modern American Usage (1966). It
    >>> no doubt has to be called American and not English due to horrific
    >>> butchering of the original language into an almost unrecognisable
    >>> carcass stiffened rigid by nearly a hundred years of rigor mortis.

    >> Nonetheless, you are the only non-American-dialect speaker in this
    >> particular subthread.


    > Ah, you want to play your worn-out "this paricular subthread..." card.
    > Nice foot-shuffle. Pity it only works on shutting up ****wits.


    Evidently it does not have the desired effect on the truly ego-blistered
    ****wits. That's a shame.

    miguel

  10. #20
    miguel Guest

    Re: PING FNVW

    Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
    > "miguel" <mjc101@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:RMqdnbEBqIZzomnYnZ2dnUVZ_urinZ2d@comcast.com
    >> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
    >>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:ii2boy$b4t$j@insufficient-fog-lights.org
    >>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou wanton and effeminate
    >>>> boy. When thou is best, thou is a little worse than a man, and when
    >>>> thou is worst, thou is little better than a beast. Thou inexecrable
    >>>> dog. That were to enlard thy fat already pride. Ye hassled and ye
    >>>> reviled:
    >>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:8vlmcf$cck$0@worn-out-kahunas.net
    >>>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhondalea@gmail.com> Thou good-for-nothing bloody
    >>>>>> cannibal. Thou burr-headed paltry. Thou old feeble carrion. Thou
    >>>>>> gilded-loam. Ye spritzed and ye warned:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:et0drt$f1b$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com
    >>>>>>>> miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> Thou fickle changeling. Thou
    >>>>>>>> pale-faced, raw-boned mad-headed ape. Thou fitful idle weed.
    >>>>>>>> Thou waxy-faced gnawing animal. Ye vacillated and ye nagged:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> You stupid circus freak. First (not "firstly," that's a sign of
    >>>>>>>>> questionable literacy<*****SLAP>
    >>>>>>>> Is that so, cranston?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/f.html
    >>>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...ronouns01.html
    >>>>>>>> http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/re.../multiple.html
    >>>>>>>> faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/westbury/Paradigm/hullen.html
    >>>>>>>> esl.about.com/od/englishlistening/a/listen_tips.htm
    >>>>>>>> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/registry/events...ation/hc-2005/
    >>>>>>>> http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org...iko_angla.html
    >>>>>>>> http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/gramm...e/firstly.html
    >>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/le...00008600.shtml
    >>>>>>>> www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/grammar.html
    >>>>>>>> www.cl.ut.ee/ee/yllitised/first/lummeerilt.html
    >>>>>>>> http://www.english-online.org.uk/eng...g/profblog.php
    >>>>>>>> www.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/leaphrt1.htm
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> There are approximately 670,000 other pages, many from other
    >>>>>>>> reputable organisations as those above, that say you're a
    >>>>>>>> ****wit, cranston. Firstly, you are a ****wit. Secondly, you
    >>>>>>>> always were a ****wit.
    >>>>>>>> Thirdly, you will always be a ****wit, you ****wit.
    >>>>>>> http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/inde...?date=20010629
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> [...]
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "Most usage authorities during the last half century, from Wilson
    >>>>>>> Follett and Jacques Barzun (Modern American Usage, 1966) to The
    >>>>>>> New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999), have pretty much
    >>>>>>> agreed with your professor and recommended "No -ly," on the
    >>>>>>> grounds that the extra syllable is...well...extra. A current,
    >>>>>>> highly regarded usage book that remains neutral, acknowledging
    >>>>>>> (with many citations) the historicity of both varieties, is
    >>>>>>> Merriam Webster's Dictionary of English Usage."
    >>>>>>> [...]
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "Ultimately, the choice is one of style:
    >>>>>> Well, clearly crasston lacks that.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Since first is a perfectly
    >>>>>>> good adverb just as it stands, there is no need for the -ly. As
    >>>>>>> E.B. White put it in the chapter he contributed to Strunk and
    >>>>>>> White's The Elements of Style (1959): "Do not dress words up by
    >>>>>>> adding 'ly' to them, as though putting a hat on a horse."
    >>>>>> 1959, huh? That would be a 1959 revision of the 1918 original,
    >>>>>> yes?
    >>>>> You apparently missed the paragraph above re Modern American Usage
    >>>>> (1966) and the New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999).
    >>>> No, I didn't miss it. I ignored it. I was hoping to avoid having to
    >>>> point out that the reference is to Modern American Usage (1966). It
    >>>> no doubt has to be called American and not English due to horrific
    >>>> butchering of the original language into an almost unrecognisable
    >>>> carcass stiffened rigid by nearly a hundred years of rigor mortis.
    >>> Nonetheless, you are the only non-American-dialect speaker in this
    >>> particular subthread. That's another way of saying that American
    >>> rules apply to American speakers.
    >>>
    >>> So you may feel free to go ahead and use "firstly" to your heart's
    >>> content, knowing full well that it grates on my ears like nails on
    >>> the blackboard.


    >> *I* would never treat you that harshly, dear.


    > Molotov cocktail much?


    Only when there's already a most volatile source of ignition, preferably
    with an obviously fragile superiority complex.

    miguel, *winkies*

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