Re: FBI New Internet Surveillance

[Leythos]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:39:38 +0000, Casey wrote:

> Here we go again!
> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6154457.html
>
> Quote.........
> The FBI appears to have adopted an invasive Internet surveillance
> technique that collects far more data on innocent Americans than
> previously has been disclosed.

And since nothing on the internet is private, since it flows through many
public points, since Terrorists and Criminals use it to facilitate their
crimes, what are you afraid of?

If you are not doing anything illegal you don't have anything to worry
about.


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[Leythos]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:53:48 +0000, Far Canal wrote:

> Leythos wrote
>
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:39:38 +0000, Casey wrote:
>>
>> > Here we go again!
>> > http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6154457.html
>> >
>> > Quote.........
>> > The FBI appears to have adopted an invasive Internet surveillance
>> > technique that collects far more data on innocent Americans than
>> > previously has been disclosed.
>>
>> And since nothing on the internet is private, since it flows through many
>> public points, since Terrorists and Criminals use it to facilitate their
>> crimes, what are you afraid of?
>
> Bag of arse

Wrong, it's true. The internet is exposed in many places.
>
>> If you are not doing anything illegal you don't have anything to worry
>> about.
>
> Bigger bag of arse. No one - not even your ****ing president(s) are
> total innocents.

I didn't say anything about being innocent - I said if you are not doing
anything illegal....

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[Leythos]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:31:26 +0000, Far Canal wrote:

> Leythos wrote
>
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:53:48 +0000, Far Canal wrote:
>>
>> > Leythos wrote
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:39:38 +0000, Casey wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Here we go again!
>> >> > http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6154457.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Quote.........
>> >> > The FBI appears to have adopted an invasive Internet surveillance
>> >> > technique that collects far more data on innocent Americans than
>> >> > previously has been disclosed.
>> >>
>> >> And since nothing on the internet is private, since it flows through many
>> >> public points, since Terrorists and Criminals use it to facilitate their
>> >> crimes, what are you afraid of?
>> >
>> > Bag of arse
>>
>> Wrong, it's true. The internet is exposed in many places.
>
> The 'terrorists & criminals' part is bollocks.
>
>> >
>> >> If you are not doing anything illegal you don't have anything to worry
>> >> about.
>> >
>> > Bigger bag of arse. No one - not even your ****ing president(s) are
>> > total innocents.
>>
>> I didn't say anything about being innocent - I said if you are not doing
>> anything illegal....
>
>
> Ergo - every ****er

LOL - so you're afraid?

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[louise]

Leythos wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:39:38 +0000, Casey wrote:
>
>> Here we go again!
>> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6154457.html
>>
>> Quote.........
>> The FBI appears to have adopted an invasive Internet surveillance
>> technique that collects far more data on innocent Americans than
>> previously has been disclosed.
>
> And since nothing on the internet is private, since it flows through many
> public points, since Terrorists and Criminals use it to facilitate their
> crimes, what are you afraid of?
>
> If you are not doing anything illegal you don't have anything to worry
> about.
>
>
Would you say that also applies to all those we are holding
prisoners in various facilities throughout the world giving
them no access to lawyers and due process?

Louise

[louise]

Far Canal wrote:
> Leythos wrote
>
>
>>>>>>> Here we go again!
>>>>>>> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6154457.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quote.........
>>>>>>> The FBI appears to have adopted an invasive Internet surveillance
>>>>>>> technique that collects far more data on innocent Americans than
>>>>>>> previously has been disclosed.
>>>>>> And since nothing on the internet is private, since it flows through many
>>>>>> public points, since Terrorists and Criminals use it to facilitate their
>>>>>> crimes, what are you afraid of?
>>>>> Bag of arse
>>>> Wrong, it's true. The internet is exposed in many places.
>>> The 'terrorists & criminals' part is bollocks.
>>>
>>>>>> If you are not doing anything illegal you don't have anything to worry
>>>>>> about.
>>>>> Bigger bag of arse. No one - not even your ****ing president(s) are
>>>>> total innocents.
>>>> I didn't say anything about being innocent - I said if you are not doing
>>>> anything illegal....
>>>
>>> Ergo - every ****er
>> LOL - so you're afraid?
>>
>
> Can the silly ****ers beat this
> http://www.secureix.com/
>
What would stop the FBI from coming after the records fro
secureix if it became widely used?

Louise

[---Fitz---]

"Far Canal" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.2029d798911ae4c498a15d@news.readfreenews. net...
| Leythos wrote
|
| > On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:53:48 +0000, Far Canal wrote:
| >
| > > Leythos wrote
| > >
| > >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:39:38 +0000, Casey wrote:
| > >>
| > >> > Here we go again!
| > >> > http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6154457.html
| > >> >
| > >> > Quote.........
| > >> > The FBI appears to have adopted an invasive Internet surveillance
| > >> > technique that collects far more data on innocent Americans than
| > >> > previously has been disclosed.
| > >>
| > >> And since nothing on the internet is private, since it flows through
many
| > >> public points, since Terrorists and Criminals use it to facilitate
their
| > >> crimes, what are you afraid of?
| > >
| > > Bag of arse
| >
| > Wrong, it's true. The internet is exposed in many places.
|
| The 'terrorists & criminals' part is bollocks.
<SNIP>
No...the terrorists and criminals part is not bollocks. Criminals have been
using the internet for years and terrorists only more recently. Just
because a terrorist may appear to be crazy, stupid, illiterate or
technically feeble, I can assure you that is not the case. Just as many
people now use the internet to steal, pass messages, make wire transfers or
do criminal things, one should never underestimate the enemy. Osama may
look like a fool wearing a turban and Al-Quida may look like idiots running
around shooting automatic weapons but the world has not heard the last from
them and the use of the internet to facilitate their fanaticism is a gift to
them.

[Leythos]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:32:06 -0500, louise wrote:

> Leythos wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:39:38 +0000, Casey wrote:
>>
>>> Here we go again!
>>> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6154457.html
>>>
>>> Quote.........
>>> The FBI appears to have adopted an invasive Internet surveillance
>>> technique that collects far more data on innocent Americans than
>>> previously has been disclosed.
>>
>> And since nothing on the internet is private, since it flows through many
>> public points, since Terrorists and Criminals use it to facilitate their
>> crimes, what are you afraid of?
>>
>> If you are not doing anything illegal you don't have anything to worry
>> about.
>>
>>
> Would you say that also applies to all those we are holding
> prisoners in various facilities throughout the world giving
> them no access to lawyers and due process?

Would you say that those holding terrorists don't have to worry about the
FBI?

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[---Fitz---]

"Far Canal" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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| ---Fitz--- wrote
|
| >
| > "Far Canal" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
| > news:MPG.2029d798911ae4c498a15d@news.readfreenews. net...
| > | Leythos wrote
| > |
| > | > On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:53:48 +0000, Far Canal wrote:
| > | >
| > | > > Leythos wrote
| > | > >
| > | > >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:39:38 +0000, Casey wrote:
| > | > >>
| > | > >> > Here we go again!
| > | > >> > http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6154457.html
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> > Quote.........
| > | > >> > The FBI appears to have adopted an invasive Internet
surveillance
| > | > >> > technique that collects far more data on innocent Americans
than
| > | > >> > previously has been disclosed.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> And since nothing on the internet is private, since it flows
through
| > many
| > | > >> public points, since Terrorists and Criminals use it to
facilitate
| > their
| > | > >> crimes, what are you afraid of?
| > | > >
| > | > > Bag of arse
| > | >
| > | > Wrong, it's true. The internet is exposed in many places.
| > |
| > | The 'terrorists & criminals' part is bollocks.
| > <SNIP>
| > No...the terrorists and criminals part is not bollocks. Criminals have
been
| > using the internet for years and terrorists only more recently. Just
| > because a terrorist may appear to be crazy, stupid, illiterate or
| > technically feeble, I can assure you that is not the case. Just as many
| > people now use the internet to steal, pass messages, make wire transfers
or
| > do criminal things, one should never underestimate the enemy. Osama may
| > look like a fool wearing a turban and Al-Quida may look like idiots
running
| > around shooting automatic weapons but the world has not heard the last
from
| > them and the use of the internet to facilitate their fanaticism is a
gift to
| > them.
| >
| >
|
| Whoosh.
| How many terrorists and criminals have been caught by the FBI?
|
If they caught one or more, that would be a good thing.

[---Fitz---]

"Far Canal" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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| ---Fitz--- wrote
|
| > | How many terrorists and criminals have been caught by the FBI?
| > |
| > If they caught one or more, that would be a good thing.
| >
|
| They haven't - but it's not stopping them keeping a note of everything
| ordinary people are up to.
|
I believe that they have caught criminals and terrorists over the years by
the use of technology. As an ordinary person, I don't have a problem with
the 3 letter agencies looking for terrorists by the use of technology. I'm
not a terrorist and have nothing to hide. The times are changing and we
must adapt to survive or we'll go the way of other countries that no longer
exist or exist in anarchy. I know that the saying "Freedom is not free" is
old but today and for the future, the past is a harbinger of things to come.
We've defiantly not had the final act of terrorism committed against us. We
can do all we can now to stop it in the future or we can stick our heads in
the sand and hope the bad guys will forget about us.

[Leythos]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:33:55 +0000, Far Canal wrote:
>
> ---Fitz--- wrote
>
>> | How many terrorists and criminals have been caught by the FBI?
>> |
>> If they caught one or more, that would be a good thing.
>>
>
> They haven't - but it's not stopping them keeping a note of everything
> ordinary people are up to.

The intel reports seem to indicate more than 1 have already been caught
and additional plots have been disrupted.


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