GoToMyPC

[Leythos]

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:22:18 -0600, Vanguard wrote:

> "Bogey On" <myfakeemail@foneyemail.com> wrote in message
> news:wawvh.2926$ch1.1611@bigfe9...
>> How safe is this program? I need to control my father-in-law's
>> computer in order to help him with maintenance etc.
>>
>
>
> Why pay for remote service when VNC (RealVNC or TightVNC) are free? If
> you both have Windows XP then use its included Remote Desktop.

Many people can't use VNC because of the NAT service provided by their
routers or ISP routers. While we block GTMP on all of our firewalls, it
does have benefit for things like the op's need.


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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:22:18 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>
>> "Bogey On" <myfakeemail@foneyemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:wawvh.2926$ch1.1611@bigfe9...
>>> How safe is this program? I need to control my father-in-law's
>>> computer in order to help him with maintenance etc.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Why pay for remote service when VNC (RealVNC or TightVNC) are free?
>> If
>> you both have Windows XP then use its included Remote Desktop.
>
> Many people can't use VNC because of the NAT service provided by their
> routers or ISP routers. While we block GTMP on all of our firewalls,
> it
> does have benefit for things like the op's need.


Even the cheapie NAT routers have port forwarding so you can specify the
port which would forward to a specific internal host, like using
http://<yourIPaddrOrNumber>:<port>. So you have the router use port
forwarding on a specific port to get to a specific host in your
intranetwork. Since your host must be reachable to receive traffic that
you request from web sites, I haven't seen an *ISP* "router" interfere
with getting to my hosts or my router. But then I haven't used a
restrictive ISP that has blocked any protocols to me.

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[Leythos]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:45:16 -0600, Vanguard wrote:

> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:1170120813_1575@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:22:18 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>>
>>> "Bogey On" <myfakeemail@foneyemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:wawvh.2926$ch1.1611@bigfe9...
>>>> How safe is this program? I need to control my father-in-law's
>>>> computer in order to help him with maintenance etc.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why pay for remote service when VNC (RealVNC or TightVNC) are free?
>>> If
>>> you both have Windows XP then use its included Remote Desktop.
>>
>> Many people can't use VNC because of the NAT service provided by their
>> routers or ISP routers. While we block GTMP on all of our firewalls,
>> it
>> does have benefit for things like the op's need.
>
>
> Even the cheapie NAT routers have port forwarding so you can specify the
> port which would forward to a specific internal host, like using
> http://<yourIPaddrOrNumber>:<port>. So you have the router use port
> forwarding on a specific port to get to a specific host in your
> intranetwork.

What makes you think that the remote person know enough to do port
forwarding or that the local person knows enough to walk them through the
changes?

> Since your host must be reachable to receive traffic that
> you request from web sites, I haven't seen an *ISP* "router" interfere
> with getting to my hosts or my router. But then I haven't used a
> restrictive ISP that has blocked any protocols to me.

But, unless you run a program that can call someone else and then ride in
on that connection it doesn't matter and that means that we're back to
port forwarding. As I said, some ISP devices don't forward inbound
anything, they are just like the NAT routers provided by Linksys and such
- the block all unsolicited inbound traffic.

GTMP would not be a problem.

> P.S.
> Regardless of your opinions about pcbutts1, please keep your signature
> down to 4 lines maximum as that is considered the polite max size.
> Beware that proselytizing a crusade usually puts you into a category of
> ignored folk.

You are free to ignore me at any time, and the sig is a "recommendation"
not a rule of Usenet.

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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:45:16 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>
>> "Leythos" wrote ...
>>>
>>>> "Bogey On" wrote ...
>>>>> How safe is this program? I need to control my father-in-law's
>>>>> computer in order to help him with maintenance etc.
>>>>
>>>> Why pay for remote service when VNC (RealVNC or TightVNC) are free?
>>>> If
>>>> you both have Windows XP then use its included Remote Desktop.
>>>
>>> Many people can't use VNC because of the NAT service provided by
>>> their
>>> routers or ISP routers. While we block GTMP on all of our firewalls,
>>> it
>>> does have benefit for things like the op's need.
>>
>>
>> Even the cheapie NAT routers have port forwarding so you can specify
>> the
>> port which would forward to a specific internal host, like using
>> http://<yourIPaddrOrNumber>:<port>. So you have the router use port
>> forwarding on a specific port to get to a specific host in your
>> intranetwork.
>
> What makes you think that the remote person know enough to do port
> forwarding or that the local person knows enough to walk them through
> the
> changes?

Then installing AND configuring GoToMyPC would also be beyond the means
of the OP's father-in-law. The OP will end up visiting father-in-law no
matter what solution is used to setup father-in-law's computer for
remote access if father-in-law is so retarded so he cannot follow
instructions as an automatron at the other end of a phone call. If
father-in-law is so stupid as to not figure out how to configure a
router even under the instruction of his son-in-law then father-in-law
probably doesn't even have a router and instead connects his computer
directly to the cable/DSL model or might even still be using dial-up for
all we know. The OP hasn't explained anything regarding father-in-law's
hardware setup.

[Leythos]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:43:57 -0600, Vanguard wrote:

> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:1170176013_6089@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:45:16 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>>
>>> "Leythos" wrote ...
>>>>
>>>>> "Bogey On" wrote ...
>>>>>> How safe is this program? I need to control my father-in-law's
>>>>>> computer in order to help him with maintenance etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why pay for remote service when VNC (RealVNC or TightVNC) are free?
>>>>> If
>>>>> you both have Windows XP then use its included Remote Desktop.
>>>>
>>>> Many people can't use VNC because of the NAT service provided by
>>>> their
>>>> routers or ISP routers. While we block GTMP on all of our firewalls,
>>>> it
>>>> does have benefit for things like the op's need.
>>>
>>>
>>> Even the cheapie NAT routers have port forwarding so you can specify
>>> the
>>> port which would forward to a specific internal host, like using
>>> http://<yourIPaddrOrNumber>:<port>. So you have the router use port
>>> forwarding on a specific port to get to a specific host in your
>>> intranetwork.
>>
>> What makes you think that the remote person know enough to do port
>> forwarding or that the local person knows enough to walk them through
>> the
>> changes?
>
> Then installing AND configuring GoToMyPC would also be beyond the means
> of the OP's father-in-law. The OP will end up visiting father-in-law no
> matter what solution is used to setup father-in-law's computer for
> remote access if father-in-law is so retarded so he cannot follow
> instructions as an automatron at the other end of a phone call. If
> father-in-law is so stupid as to not figure out how to configure a
> router even under the instruction of his son-in-law then father-in-law
> probably doesn't even have a router and instead connects his computer
> directly to the cable/DSL model or might even still be using dial-up for
> all we know. The OP hasn't explained anything regarding father-in-law's
> hardware setup.

No, you've got it wrong - GTMP is designed for non-technical types, it's
designed to be installed by just the OP's type of people. No changes to a
router, not port forwarding, etc... It's so simple a doctor could do it.

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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:43:57 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:1170176013_6089@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:45:16 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Leythos" wrote ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bogey On" wrote ...
>>>>>>> How safe is this program? I need to control my father-in-law's
>>>>>>> computer in order to help him with maintenance etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why pay for remote service when VNC (RealVNC or TightVNC) are
>>>>>> free?
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> you both have Windows XP then use its included Remote Desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people can't use VNC because of the NAT service provided by
>>>>> their
>>>>> routers or ISP routers. While we block GTMP on all of our
>>>>> firewalls,
>>>>> it
>>>>> does have benefit for things like the op's need.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even the cheapie NAT routers have port forwarding so you can
>>>> specify
>>>> the
>>>> port which would forward to a specific internal host, like using
>>>> http://<yourIPaddrOrNumber>:<port>. So you have the router use
>>>> port
>>>> forwarding on a specific port to get to a specific host in your
>>>> intranetwork.
>>>
>>> What makes you think that the remote person know enough to do port
>>> forwarding or that the local person knows enough to walk them
>>> through
>>> the
>>> changes?
>>
>> Then installing AND configuring GoToMyPC would also be beyond the
>> means
>> of the OP's father-in-law. The OP will end up visiting father-in-law
>> no
>> matter what solution is used to setup father-in-law's computer for
>> remote access if father-in-law is so retarded so he cannot follow
>> instructions as an automatron at the other end of a phone call. If
>> father-in-law is so stupid as to not figure out how to configure a
>> router even under the instruction of his son-in-law then
>> father-in-law
>> probably doesn't even have a router and instead connects his computer
>> directly to the cable/DSL model or might even still be using dial-up
>> for
>> all we know. The OP hasn't explained anything regarding
>> father-in-law's
>> hardware setup.
>
> No, you've got it wrong - GTMP is designed for non-technical types,
> it's
> designed to be installed by just the OP's type of people. No changes
> to a
> router, not port forwarding, etc... It's so simple a doctor could do
> it.


So father-in-law gets stuck paying $20/month just because son-in-law is
too lazy to call father-in-law on the phone and have father-in-law act
the automatron to follow son-in-law's instructions? And for
once-in-a-blue-moon assistance from son-in-law? GTMP is hardly a
financially sound solution for the OP's original stipulation of
providing occasional help to father-in-law. GTMP is more for users that
want repeat and often remote access to their hosts. Doesn't sound like
what the OP is asking about, and father-in-law ends up footing the bill.

[Leythos]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:03:36 -0600, Vanguard wrote:

> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:1170204630_8011@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:43:57 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>>
>>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> news:1170176013_6089@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>>>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:45:16 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Leythos" wrote ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bogey On" wrote ...
>>>>>>>> How safe is this program? I need to control my father-in-law's
>>>>>>>> computer in order to help him with maintenance etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why pay for remote service when VNC (RealVNC or TightVNC) are
>>>>>>> free?
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> you both have Windows XP then use its included Remote Desktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many people can't use VNC because of the NAT service provided by
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> routers or ISP routers. While we block GTMP on all of our
>>>>>> firewalls,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> does have benefit for things like the op's need.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Even the cheapie NAT routers have port forwarding so you can specify
>>>>> the
>>>>> port which would forward to a specific internal host, like using
>>>>> http://<yourIPaddrOrNumber>:<port>. So you have the router use port
>>>>> forwarding on a specific port to get to a specific host in your
>>>>> intranetwork.
>>>>
>>>> What makes you think that the remote person know enough to do port
>>>> forwarding or that the local person knows enough to walk them through
>>>> the
>>>> changes?
>>>
>>> Then installing AND configuring GoToMyPC would also be beyond the
>>> means
>>> of the OP's father-in-law. The OP will end up visiting father-in-law
>>> no
>>> matter what solution is used to setup father-in-law's computer for
>>> remote access if father-in-law is so retarded so he cannot follow
>>> instructions as an automatron at the other end of a phone call. If
>>> father-in-law is so stupid as to not figure out how to configure a
>>> router even under the instruction of his son-in-law then father-in-law
>>> probably doesn't even have a router and instead connects his computer
>>> directly to the cable/DSL model or might even still be using dial-up
>>> for
>>> all we know. The OP hasn't explained anything regarding
>>> father-in-law's
>>> hardware setup.
>>
>> No, you've got it wrong - GTMP is designed for non-technical types,
>> it's
>> designed to be installed by just the OP's type of people. No changes to
>> a
>> router, not port forwarding, etc... It's so simple a doctor could do
>> it.
>
>
> So father-in-law gets stuck paying $20/month just because son-in-law is
> too lazy to call father-in-law on the phone and have father-in-law act
> the automatron to follow son-in-law's instructions? And for
> once-in-a-blue-moon assistance from son-in-law? GTMP is hardly a
> financially sound solution for the OP's original stipulation of
> providing occasional help to father-in-law. GTMP is more for users that
> want repeat and often remote access to their hosts. Doesn't sound like
> what the OP is asking about, and father-in-law ends up footing the bill.

You are aware that you can try GTMP for free for 30 days or so....

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