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[Leythos]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:09:06 +0000, Tx2 wrote:

> In article <Xns98C8D419B9557ikkezelf@199.45.49.11>,
> Han <nobody@nospam.not>
> thought we'd be interested in the following...
>
>
>
>> Problem is, how can I get through to my work computer? It has an non-
>> routable (local) IP address, and the IT people already told me I'm not
>> eligible for their vpn service. How would I install logmein, or gotomypc
>> there?
>
> My work PC is behind a proxy and corporate firewall. It works perfectly.
> I help my father in Cyprus, a friend in Spain, and can log into my own
> home machines if I want.

Only because the Corporate firewall is not properly configured or they
don't care if you use GTMP.

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[David H. Lipman]

From: "Han" <nobody@nospam.not>


| Leythos, David, Louise:
| I do not want to do anything illegal. I am just at times not able to do
| what I need to do from home, so remote access to my work computer would
| be really nice. Since there appears to be no ethical way to do this, I
| will not do it. Simple. But it will mean that ther is going be delays,
| since I am beyond the postdoc's desire to work more then 10-12 hours per
| day. Don't get heart disease or stroke for a while yet. The treatment
| will have to wait for the rules <grin>.
|

Han:

I work in an environment where data and business practices always will take a back seat to
security.

Just contact management and see what accomodations can be made. I know what industry you
are in and I understand both sides of the coin.

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[Vanguard]

"Leythos" wrote in message news:1170205581_8027@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>
> Vanguard wrote:
>
>> So father-in-law gets stuck paying $20/month just because son-in-law
>> is
>> too lazy to call father-in-law on the phone and have father-in-law
>> act
>> the automatron to follow son-in-law's instructions? And for
>> once-in-a-blue-moon assistance from son-in-law? GTMP is hardly a
>> financially sound solution for the OP's original stipulation of
>> providing occasional help to father-in-law. GTMP is more for users
>> that
>> want repeat and often remote access to their hosts. Doesn't sound
>> like
>> what the OP is asking about, and father-in-law ends up footing the
>> bill.
>
> You are aware that you can try GTMP for free for 30 days or so....


One month of "maintenance" by son-in-law won't be of much help to
father-in-law.

[Leythos]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:34:05 -0600, Vanguard wrote:

> "Leythos" wrote in message news:1170205581_8027@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>>
>> Vanguard wrote:
>>
>>> So father-in-law gets stuck paying $20/month just because son-in-law
>>> is
>>> too lazy to call father-in-law on the phone and have father-in-law
>>> act
>>> the automatron to follow son-in-law's instructions? And for
>>> once-in-a-blue-moon assistance from son-in-law? GTMP is hardly a
>>> financially sound solution for the OP's original stipulation of
>>> providing occasional help to father-in-law. GTMP is more for users
>>> that
>>> want repeat and often remote access to their hosts. Doesn't sound
>>> like
>>> what the OP is asking about, and father-in-law ends up footing the
>>> bill.
>>
>> You are aware that you can try GTMP for free for 30 days or so....
>
>
> One month of "maintenance" by son-in-law won't be of much help to
> father-in-law.

Ah, but you don't seem to understand that once the Son-in law is in using
GTMP that he can make the changes/adjustments so that he can get in using
VNC or some other method. Think in broader terms.


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[Han]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:2c9wh.8428$SE6.6925@trnddc03:

> Han:
>
> I work in an environment where data and business practices always will
> take a back seat to security.
>
> Just contact management and see what accomodations can be made. I
> know what industry you are in and I understand both sides of the coin.
>
I appreciate what you are saying, David, and also what Juergen Nieveler was
saying. I also know that you're in the IT security business. It's just
that I like to please and help people. It still frustrates me if there are
impediments thrown in my way that for all intents and purposes are silly.

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[Vanguard]

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:1170294030_2199@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:34:05 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>
>> "Leythos" wrote in message
>> news:1170205581_8027@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>>>
>>> Vanguard wrote:
>>>
>>>> So father-in-law gets stuck paying $20/month just because
>>>> son-in-law
>>>> is
>>>> too lazy to call father-in-law on the phone and have father-in-law
>>>> act
>>>> the automatron to follow son-in-law's instructions? And for
>>>> once-in-a-blue-moon assistance from son-in-law? GTMP is hardly a
>>>> financially sound solution for the OP's original stipulation of
>>>> providing occasional help to father-in-law. GTMP is more for users
>>>> that
>>>> want repeat and often remote access to their hosts. Doesn't sound
>>>> like
>>>> what the OP is asking about, and father-in-law ends up footing the
>>>> bill.
>>>
>>> You are aware that you can try GTMP for free for 30 days or so....
>>
>> One month of "maintenance" by son-in-law won't be of much help to
>> father-in-law.
>
> Ah, but you don't seem to understand that once the Son-in law is in
> using
> GTMP that he can make the changes/adjustments so that he can get in
> using
> VNC or some other method. Think in broader terms.


Have you read their Terms of Service?

"At the end of the trial period You will be automatically subscribed and
we will bill your credit card for the fees to the Service plan You
selected at registration or to a default Service plan for trial
subscribers selected by Citrix Online. ... If You wish to terminate the
trial and do not wish to subscribe to a plan, You must cancel before the
end of your trial period."

That's an old but effective ploy to bilk a significant number of "trial"
users out of, at least, one month's fees. The user will typically not
remember to cancel the trial before it ends or mistakeningly believes
that it is really without strings attached - until they get charged and
then cancels but by then ends up paying for that "free" month of use (by
getting forced into another involuntary suscription to the next month
that is billed in *advance*). Of course, since you must cancel *before*
the end of the trial means you really don't get the full period of the
trial. Cancelling after the end of the trial means you already got
automatically subscribed.

So father-in-law has to spend the time figuring out how to subscribe,
install software, decide on a passcode and do whatever minimally is
required, like configure his software firewall to allow GTMP to accept
unsolicited inbound connects, before son-in-law can install the *actual*
remote access solution and father-in-law has to remember to cancel the
"trial" before it ends so he doesn't get charged. Citrix aren't dummies
in marketing, ya know.

[Leythos]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:41:30 -0600, Vanguard wrote:

> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:1170294030_2199@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:34:05 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>>
>>> "Leythos" wrote in message
>>> news:1170205581_8027@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>>>>
>>>> Vanguard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So father-in-law gets stuck paying $20/month just because
>>>>> son-in-law
>>>>> is
>>>>> too lazy to call father-in-law on the phone and have father-in-law
>>>>> act
>>>>> the automatron to follow son-in-law's instructions? And for
>>>>> once-in-a-blue-moon assistance from son-in-law? GTMP is hardly a
>>>>> financially sound solution for the OP's original stipulation of
>>>>> providing occasional help to father-in-law. GTMP is more for users
>>>>> that
>>>>> want repeat and often remote access to their hosts. Doesn't sound
>>>>> like
>>>>> what the OP is asking about, and father-in-law ends up footing the
>>>>> bill.
>>>>
>>>> You are aware that you can try GTMP for free for 30 days or so....
>>>
>>> One month of "maintenance" by son-in-law won't be of much help to
>>> father-in-law.
>>
>> Ah, but you don't seem to understand that once the Son-in law is in
>> using
>> GTMP that he can make the changes/adjustments so that he can get in
>> using
>> VNC or some other method. Think in broader terms.
>
>
> Have you read their Terms of Service?
>
> "At the end of the trial period You will be automatically subscribed and
> we will bill your credit card for the fees to the Service plan You
> selected at registration or to a default Service plan for trial
> subscribers selected by Citrix Online. ... If You wish to terminate the
> trial and do not wish to subscribe to a plan, You must cancel before the
> end of your trial period."
>
> That's an old but effective ploy to bilk a significant number of "trial"
> users out of, at least, one month's fees. The user will typically not
> remember to cancel the trial before it ends or mistakeningly believes
> that it is really without strings attached - until they get charged and
> then cancels but by then ends up paying for that "free" month of use (by
> getting forced into another involuntary suscription to the next month
> that is billed in *advance*). Of course, since you must cancel *before*
> the end of the trial means you really don't get the full period of the
> trial. Cancelling after the end of the trial means you already got
> automatically subscribed.
>
> So father-in-law has to spend the time figuring out how to subscribe,
> install software, decide on a passcode and do whatever minimally is
> required, like configure his software firewall to allow GTMP to accept
> unsolicited inbound connects, before son-in-law can install the *actual*
> remote access solution and father-in-law has to remember to cancel the
> "trial" before it ends so he doesn't get charged. Citrix aren't dummies
> in marketing, ya know.

You know, this was a really simple thing - the OP wanted to support his
relatives system, asked about means, GTMP was discussed with other
products. GTMP is available on a trial basis, does not require any
technical skill, and is FREE, allows the OP to gain access to setup any
other method once he's in... You keep finding ways to divert from the fact
that it would be simple, allows all the requirements, and works.

Are you trolling now?

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[Han]

Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> wrote in
news:Xns98CACE84BE545juergennieveler@nieveler.org:

> Try to approach this problem from another angle: You want to help
> people, people ask you for help, but you can't help them... let THEM
> complain to management about it, and if possible, let them mention that
> the company would save money if you get a VPN link.
>
>
> Juergen Nieveler
>
Actually, from THEIR point of view, they want security first second, third
and last. Convenience etc has no place in their modus operandi. And in
general they're probably right, since it is basically a hospital
environment that I work in, so protecting privacy is their stated main
concern.

But thanks to all for letting me blow off steam.
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[Vanguard]

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:1170326778_4733@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:41:30 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:1170294030_2199@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:34:05 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Leythos" wrote in message
>>>> news:1170205581_8027@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> Vanguard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So father-in-law gets stuck paying $20/month just because
>>>>>> son-in-law
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> too lazy to call father-in-law on the phone and have
>>>>>> father-in-law
>>>>>> act
>>>>>> the automatron to follow son-in-law's instructions? And for
>>>>>> once-in-a-blue-moon assistance from son-in-law? GTMP is hardly a
>>>>>> financially sound solution for the OP's original stipulation of
>>>>>> providing occasional help to father-in-law. GTMP is more for
>>>>>> users
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> want repeat and often remote access to their hosts. Doesn't
>>>>>> sound
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> what the OP is asking about, and father-in-law ends up footing
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are aware that you can try GTMP for free for 30 days or so....
>>>>
>>>> One month of "maintenance" by son-in-law won't be of much help to
>>>> father-in-law.
>>>
>>> Ah, but you don't seem to understand that once the Son-in law is in
>>> using
>>> GTMP that he can make the changes/adjustments so that he can get in
>>> using
>>> VNC or some other method. Think in broader terms.
>>
>>
>> Have you read their Terms of Service?
>>
>> "At the end of the trial period You will be automatically subscribed
>> and
>> we will bill your credit card for the fees to the Service plan You
>> selected at registration or to a default Service plan for trial
>> subscribers selected by Citrix Online. ... If You wish to terminate
>> the
>> trial and do not wish to subscribe to a plan, You must cancel before
>> the
>> end of your trial period."
>>
>> That's an old but effective ploy to bilk a significant number of
>> "trial"
>> users out of, at least, one month's fees. The user will typically
>> not
>> remember to cancel the trial before it ends or mistakeningly believes
>> that it is really without strings attached - until they get charged
>> and
>> then cancels but by then ends up paying for that "free" month of use
>> (by
>> getting forced into another involuntary suscription to the next month
>> that is billed in *advance*). Of course, since you must cancel
>> *before*
>> the end of the trial means you really don't get the full period of
>> the
>> trial. Cancelling after the end of the trial means you already got
>> automatically subscribed.
>>
>> So father-in-law has to spend the time figuring out how to subscribe,
>> install software, decide on a passcode and do whatever minimally is
>> required, like configure his software firewall to allow GTMP to
>> accept
>> unsolicited inbound connects, before son-in-law can install the
>> *actual*
>> remote access solution and father-in-law has to remember to cancel
>> the
>> "trial" before it ends so he doesn't get charged. Citrix aren't
>> dummies
>> in marketing, ya know.
>
> You know, this was a really simple thing - the OP wanted to support
> his
> relatives system, asked about means, GTMP was discussed with other
> products. GTMP is available on a trial basis, does not require any
> technical skill, and is FREE, allows the OP to gain access to setup
> any
> other method once he's in... You keep finding ways to divert from the
> fact
> that it would be simple, allows all the requirements, and works.
>
> Are you trolling now?


You keep trying to spam the product while claiming it is so easy to
install, configure, and use and yet for what it takes I can't see it is
any harder than the son-in-law making a simple phone call to
father-in-law to guide him through a VNC install, or to enable Remote
Desktop that may already BE there in Windows. While I knock down your
points, you keep coming back to spam the product. If the OP wants to go
with GTMP then great for the OP, but it is not the miracle cure you
claim it to be.

[Leythos]

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:21:28 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>
> You keep trying to spam the product while claiming it is so easy to
> install, configure, and use and yet for what it takes I can't see it is
> any harder than the son-in-law making a simple phone call to
> father-in-law to guide him through a VNC install, or to enable Remote
> Desktop that may already BE there in Windows. While I knock down your
> points, you keep coming back to spam the product. If the OP wants to go
> with GTMP then great for the OP, but it is not the miracle cure you
> claim it to be.

I don't use GTMP or any other product like it, I use VNC, but, I'm not in
a position where my relative is behind a router that I didn't setup and
might not know what the interface screens look like, etc....

I use VNC all the time, and I ensure that I've got a router with a port
forward or a VPN setup to get into the remote locations.

You've not provided anything to "Knock down" my points, you just keep
suggesting that there might be other issues that only you would care about.

1) GTMPC works and is designed for idiots to install
2) You can get a free trial
3) Only one person has to get the trial to test it
4) Once installed, the OP can easily install VNC and setup a PF
5) You cancel the trial

Could be done in about 15 minutes.

So, there is nothing you can "Knock Down", but you can keep trolling.

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