GoToMyPC

[Vanguard]

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:43:57 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:1170176013_6089@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:45:16 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Leythos" wrote ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bogey On" wrote ...
>>>>>>> How safe is this program? I need to control my father-in-law's
>>>>>>> computer in order to help him with maintenance etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why pay for remote service when VNC (RealVNC or TightVNC) are
>>>>>> free?
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> you both have Windows XP then use its included Remote Desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people can't use VNC because of the NAT service provided by
>>>>> their
>>>>> routers or ISP routers. While we block GTMP on all of our
>>>>> firewalls,
>>>>> it
>>>>> does have benefit for things like the op's need.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even the cheapie NAT routers have port forwarding so you can
>>>> specify
>>>> the
>>>> port which would forward to a specific internal host, like using
>>>> http://<yourIPaddrOrNumber>:<port>. So you have the router use
>>>> port
>>>> forwarding on a specific port to get to a specific host in your
>>>> intranetwork.
>>>
>>> What makes you think that the remote person know enough to do port
>>> forwarding or that the local person knows enough to walk them
>>> through
>>> the
>>> changes?
>>
>> Then installing AND configuring GoToMyPC would also be beyond the
>> means
>> of the OP's father-in-law. The OP will end up visiting father-in-law
>> no
>> matter what solution is used to setup father-in-law's computer for
>> remote access if father-in-law is so retarded so he cannot follow
>> instructions as an automatron at the other end of a phone call. If
>> father-in-law is so stupid as to not figure out how to configure a
>> router even under the instruction of his son-in-law then
>> father-in-law
>> probably doesn't even have a router and instead connects his computer
>> directly to the cable/DSL model or might even still be using dial-up
>> for
>> all we know. The OP hasn't explained anything regarding
>> father-in-law's
>> hardware setup.
>
> No, you've got it wrong - GTMP is designed for non-technical types,
> it's
> designed to be installed by just the OP's type of people. No changes
> to a
> router, not port forwarding, etc... It's so simple a doctor could do
> it.


So father-in-law gets stuck paying $20/month just because son-in-law is
too lazy to call father-in-law on the phone and have father-in-law act
the automatron to follow son-in-law's instructions? And for
once-in-a-blue-moon assistance from son-in-law? GTMP is hardly a
financially sound solution for the OP's original stipulation of
providing occasional help to father-in-law. GTMP is more for users that
want repeat and often remote access to their hosts. Doesn't sound like
what the OP is asking about, and father-in-law ends up footing the bill.

[Leythos]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:03:36 -0600, Vanguard wrote:

> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:1170204630_8011@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:43:57 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>>
>>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> news:1170176013_6089@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>>>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:45:16 -0600, Vanguard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Leythos" wrote ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bogey On" wrote ...
>>>>>>>> How safe is this program? I need to control my father-in-law's
>>>>>>>> computer in order to help him with maintenance etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why pay for remote service when VNC (RealVNC or TightVNC) are
>>>>>>> free?
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> you both have Windows XP then use its included Remote Desktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many people can't use VNC because of the NAT service provided by
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> routers or ISP routers. While we block GTMP on all of our
>>>>>> firewalls,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> does have benefit for things like the op's need.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Even the cheapie NAT routers have port forwarding so you can specify
>>>>> the
>>>>> port which would forward to a specific internal host, like using
>>>>> http://<yourIPaddrOrNumber>:<port>. So you have the router use port
>>>>> forwarding on a specific port to get to a specific host in your
>>>>> intranetwork.
>>>>
>>>> What makes you think that the remote person know enough to do port
>>>> forwarding or that the local person knows enough to walk them through
>>>> the
>>>> changes?
>>>
>>> Then installing AND configuring GoToMyPC would also be beyond the
>>> means
>>> of the OP's father-in-law. The OP will end up visiting father-in-law
>>> no
>>> matter what solution is used to setup father-in-law's computer for
>>> remote access if father-in-law is so retarded so he cannot follow
>>> instructions as an automatron at the other end of a phone call. If
>>> father-in-law is so stupid as to not figure out how to configure a
>>> router even under the instruction of his son-in-law then father-in-law
>>> probably doesn't even have a router and instead connects his computer
>>> directly to the cable/DSL model or might even still be using dial-up
>>> for
>>> all we know. The OP hasn't explained anything regarding
>>> father-in-law's
>>> hardware setup.
>>
>> No, you've got it wrong - GTMP is designed for non-technical types,
>> it's
>> designed to be installed by just the OP's type of people. No changes to
>> a
>> router, not port forwarding, etc... It's so simple a doctor could do
>> it.
>
>
> So father-in-law gets stuck paying $20/month just because son-in-law is
> too lazy to call father-in-law on the phone and have father-in-law act
> the automatron to follow son-in-law's instructions? And for
> once-in-a-blue-moon assistance from son-in-law? GTMP is hardly a
> financially sound solution for the OP's original stipulation of
> providing occasional help to father-in-law. GTMP is more for users that
> want repeat and often remote access to their hosts. Doesn't sound like
> what the OP is asking about, and father-in-law ends up footing the bill.

You are aware that you can try GTMP for free for 30 days or so....

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[Han]

Tx2 <this.is.an.inv@lid.address.u.know.com> wrote in
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> In article <wawvh.2926$ch1.1611@bigfe9>,
> Bogey On <myfakeemail@foneyemail.com>
> thought we'd be interested in the following...
>
>
>> How safe is this program? I need to control my father-in-law's
>> computer in order to help him with maintenance etc.
>
> Personally, I use Logmein. Never let me down yet.
> www.logmein.com
>
Problem is, how can I get through to my work computer? It has an non-
routable (local) IP address, and the IT people already told me I'm not
eligible for their vpn service. How would I install logmein, or gotomypc
there?

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[Leythos]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:51:01 +0000, Han wrote:

> Tx2 <this.is.an.inv@lid.address.u.know.com> wrote in
> news:MPG.20297131e807e76e989684@News.Individual.NE T:
>
>> In article <wawvh.2926$ch1.1611@bigfe9>,
>> Bogey On <myfakeemail@foneyemail.com>
>> thought we'd be interested in the following...
>>
>>
>>> How safe is this program? I need to control my father-in-law's
>>> computer in order to help him with maintenance etc.
>>
>> Personally, I use Logmein. Never let me down yet.
>> www.logmein.com
>>
> Problem is, how can I get through to my work computer? It has an non-
> routable (local) IP address, and the IT people already told me I'm not
> eligible for their vpn service. How would I install logmein, or gotomypc
> there?

If you install this at work, and they've already told you NO, depending on
where you work, you could get fired.

If you are not to be working remotely then don't. If you are trying to get
to your HOME PC from work, then you're being unethical and should not be
doing it.

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[Han]

Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in
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> If you install this at work, and they've already told you NO,
> depending on where you work, you could get fired.

It's more complicated than that because the entity that provides me with
net access does not employ me. Don't want to explain more.

> If you are not to be working remotely then don't. If you are trying to
> get to your HOME PC from work, then you're being unethical and should
> not be doing it.
>
It is getting tiresome to take files back and forth between home and work
(perfectly legit otherwise). Just tonight I had an urgent question from a
colleague and had to tell him to wait until tomorrow because I don't have
the pricelists of the Chrono-Log company with me. I'm sure he would have
liked his answers tonight, rather than tomorrow morning.

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[Leythos]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:26:37 +0000, Han wrote:

> Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in
> news:1170208955_8073@sp6iad.superfeed.net:
>
>> If you install this at work, and they've already told you NO,
>> depending on where you work, you could get fired.
>
> It's more complicated than that because the entity that provides me with
> net access does not employ me. Don't want to explain more.

So, you work for a company and another one provides network access -
that's just like most of us. We work at one location and have our home
computer at another location. Additionally, it doesn't matter who provides
your "Net access" all that matters is who controls the two computers (the
remote computer and the local computer).

If the company you work for provides for remote connection permission then
you get it, if not then you don't.

>
>> If you are not to be working remotely then don't. If you are trying to
>> get to your HOME PC from work, then you're being unethical and should
>> not be doing it.
>>
> It is getting tiresome to take files back and forth between home and work
> (perfectly legit otherwise). Just tonight I had an urgent question from a
> colleague and had to tell him to wait until tomorrow because I don't have
> the pricelists of the Chrono-Log company with me. I'm sure he would have
> liked his answers tonight, rather than tomorrow morning.

So, present the issue to your Boss and tell him that it's impacting
your/their customers, most times they will find a way to support their
customers.

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[David H. Lipman]

From: "Han" <nobody@nospam.not>

| Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in
| news:1170208955_8073@sp6iad.superfeed.net:
|
>> If you install this at work, and they've already told you NO,
>> depending on where you work, you could get fired.
|
| It's more complicated than that because the entity that provides me with
| net access does not employ me. Don't want to explain more.
|
>> If you are not to be working remotely then don't. If you are trying to
>> get to your HOME PC from work, then you're being unethical and should
>> not be doing it.
>>
| It is getting tiresome to take files back and forth between home and work
| (perfectly legit otherwise). Just tonight I had an urgent question from a
| colleague and had to tell him to wait until tomorrow because I don't have
| the pricelists of the Chrono-Log company with me. I'm sure he would have
| liked his answers tonight, rather than tomorrow morning.
|

Han:

You need to talk to the IT people at "company X" and see what facilities can be setup for
you. Whatever you do must be done overtly with their cooperation rather then covertly
without their knowledge.

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[louise]

David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "Han" <nobody@nospam.not>
>
> | Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in
> | news:1170208955_8073@sp6iad.superfeed.net:
> |
>>> If you install this at work, and they've already told you NO,
>>> depending on where you work, you could get fired.
> |
> | It's more complicated than that because the entity that provides me with
> | net access does not employ me. Don't want to explain more.
> |
>>> If you are not to be working remotely then don't. If you are trying to
>>> get to your HOME PC from work, then you're being unethical and should
>>> not be doing it.
>>>
> | It is getting tiresome to take files back and forth between home and work
> | (perfectly legit otherwise). Just tonight I had an urgent question from a
> | colleague and had to tell him to wait until tomorrow because I don't have
> | the pricelists of the Chrono-Log company with me. I'm sure he would have
> | liked his answers tonight, rather than tomorrow morning.
> |
>
> Han:
>
> You need to talk to the IT people at "company X" and see what facilities can be setup for
> you. Whatever you do must be done overtly with their cooperation rather then covertly
> without their knowledge.
>
I've been using gtmypc for about 5 years without a single
problem. Anywhere, anytime in the world, as long as the
host machine is powered up, I have been able to get anything
I want and to transfer any files I needed to transfer.

On one or two occasions I had reason to call tech support -
they were knowledgeable, friendly and I didn't have to wait
for hours.

Louise

[Han]

louise <louise@invalid.invalid> wrote in
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> David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "Han" <nobody@nospam.not>
>>
>> | Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in
>> | news:1170208955_8073@sp6iad.superfeed.net:
>> |
>>>> If you install this at work, and they've already told you NO,
>>>> depending on where you work, you could get fired.
>> |
>> | It's more complicated than that because the entity that provides me
>> | with net access does not employ me. Don't want to explain more.
>> |
>>>> If you are not to be working remotely then don't. If you are trying
>>>> to get to your HOME PC from work, then you're being unethical and
>>>> should not be doing it.
>>>>
>> | It is getting tiresome to take files back and forth between home
>> | and work (perfectly legit otherwise). Just tonight I had an urgent
>> | question from a colleague and had to tell him to wait until
>> | tomorrow because I don't have the pricelists of the Chrono-Log
>> | company with me. I'm sure he would have liked his answers tonight,
>> | rather than tomorrow morning.
>> |
>>
>> Han:
>>
>> You need to talk to the IT people at "company X" and see what
>> facilities can be setup for you. Whatever you do must be done
>> overtly with their cooperation rather then covertly without their
>> knowledge.
>>
> I've been using gtmypc for about 5 years without a single
> problem. Anywhere, anytime in the world, as long as the
> host machine is powered up, I have been able to get anything
> I want and to transfer any files I needed to transfer.
>
> On one or two occasions I had reason to call tech support -
> they were knowledgeable, friendly and I didn't have to wait
> for hours.
>
> Louise
>
Leythos, David, Louise:
I do not want to do anything illegal. I am just at times not able to do
what I need to do from home, so remote access to my work computer would
be really nice. Since there appears to be no ethical way to do this, I
will not do it. Simple. But it will mean that ther is going be delays,
since I am beyond the postdoc's desire to work more then 10-12 hours per
day. Don't get heart disease or stroke for a while yet. The treatment
will have to wait for the rules <grin>.


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[Tx2]

In article <Xns98C8D419B9557ikkezelf@199.45.49.11>,
Han <nobody@nospam.not>
thought we'd be interested in the following...



> Problem is, how can I get through to my work computer? It has an non-
> routable (local) IP address, and the IT people already told me I'm not
> eligible for their vpn service. How would I install logmein, or gotomypc
> there?

My work PC is behind a proxy and corporate firewall. It works perfectly.
I help my father in Cyprus, a friend in Spain, and can log into my own
home machines if I want.


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