Dustin Cook wrote:
> On Feb 19, 4:17 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > Dustin Cook wrote:
> > > On Feb 18, 11:26 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Dustin Cook wrote:
> > > > > "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote in
> > > > >news:1171850573.103492.57950@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:

> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > > > It's assembler... Are you going to make fun of my sloppy almost 10 year
> > > > > old assembler routines too? *grin*

> >
> > <hold that thought>
> >
> > > ...It's no secret that the
> > > criterror routine was taken in part from Ibrary v2.0 written by Thomas
> > > Hanlin

> >
> > *HAHA* One minute it's *your* assembler, next we find out that the
> > code belongs to Thomas Hanlin and you mearly tlib'd his work then
> > pretended you wrote it. You are a deceptive little AV turd.

>
> Actually, no. some of the code belongs to thomas, some is mine. This
> is all actually common knowledge, I'm surprised you didn't know.


And yet anyone reading what you wrote
would be led to believe you wrote it.
You obviously didn't expect someone to
take a quick look at the ASIC l'ibrary.

>I made no effort to hide where the code came from when I was using it
> years ago, writing.. lame self replicating programs that nobody wanted
> then, and nobody wants now.


You don't want now! It's hard to escape
your past and for everyone to see that
you really aren't much of a coder
beyond simple DOS codes.


> Since you didn't bother to show the differences between the original
> and mine, it's a safe bet you really don't have even that little
> amount of coding skill. When you mentioned someone should use a
> debugger, you didn't actually mean you did ya?


Well since I only downloaded IBRARY yesterday and Linux doesn't come
with a 16bit DOS debugger it's hardly
surprising I haven't debugged it yet.
But now that I feel the challenge has
been laid down, you can expect to see
Bughunter source code published.


> unlike yourself tho, I don't live in the fantasy world that Vx is the
> begin/ending of all, I grew up.... One day, you will too.


Well let's see what falls out in
your webpage biography. )

>
> > <snip>
> >
> > > The only dirt your going to be thrashing about is 10+ year old code,
> > > way over, done, nobody cares.

> >
> > Now everyone knows you have been
> > caught with your pants down, pretending
> > you wrote Hanlin's library function.
> > Accussing PCButts of ripping then
> > calling Mandragore and Vecna code
> > rippers (proof please). You ****tard
> > turncoat.

>
> Caught with my pants down? 4Q, your making a big deal about 10 year
> old code.. 10 years ago man.. hehehe.


You are taking this 10yr old piece of
**** coding to heart. I do hope Bughuckster you've improved over a
10yr
period... alas I think we will be sadly
disappointed and see the same old ****
(which is your level of coding unfortunately).

> I didn't pretend to write anything, hanlins function isn't the same
> thing that I posted years ago. Their are differences between them.
> more than tlibbing I'm afraid.


You sound rattled. You made some
remark giving everyone the idea this
was all your own work and after a few
hours someone digs up IBRARY off the
net and sees the code you was claiming
to be yours full of IBRARY references.


>
> I didn't call vecna or mandragore anything, I used it as a reference
> point. Vecna and mandragore both at some point read others code,
> studied it, modified it, and learned from it. As most programmers do.
> We didn't actually call this code ripping then. And nobody really
> thinks of it as code ripping now, except for.. you apparently. with
> regard to myself, and none of the others.


I smell bull**** backpeddling.


>
> You've also been making some assinine claims which painfully tell me
> what little programming skill you actually possess on your own. No
> wonder I never saw anything from you when I was active vx, you
> couldn't code anything then, and you haven't bothered to learn
> anything now?


Really, you still haven't found
anything? And yet my work still
manages to make it into virus
databases. I take it you never
grepped any of my A.I. work
hosted on Coderz.net either
Ask Guillermito (I know he likes to swap good codes for your lame code
effort)
if he'll spare you a copy, I know he
likes to swap good codes for your
lamer code efforts). Then weep 16bit
BASIC boy. ;]]


> 1. BugHunter doesn't use string scanning.


*Who ****ing really cares?!* I only
don't loaded your **** yesterday,
I've not even opened it with a hex
editor let alone a debugger.

> 2. I am not antivirus, BugHunter does not search for viruses.


Check your database you lying ****.
And when were worms excluded from
from the AV prodcts? Arsehole.


> 3. The best you can come at me with is 10 year old code that I didn't
> author entirely by myself. Wow!


You won't release the source code to
BugHunter because everyone knows it
will just be more **** by someone who
can't raise his game above BASIC with
a couple of Int86 calls.... how many
years ago should you have stopped using
this crap, 10-15? really lame and sad.


> 4. Even after telling you the files are different, you couldn't find
> out how. You assumed wrongly, again, that I just tlibbed it. You
> really should take an assembler dump of the file, since the hex editor
> isn't helping you.


Sourcer on standby ;]]

> 5. You will not find any reference using a hex editor to any Charon
> Software in that object file. What you will find is ibrary code
> comments start and end, which I did preserve.


Yeah, and they come back to haunt you.
You should have removed any trace of
IBRARY if you wanted to claim it was
all your own work at the outset (before
someone bubbled you -- that would be me)


>the code however in the
> middle that actually does the work, is not the same as his. His
> routine was originally designed only for the ibrary internal
> functions. It's not even a routine available thru the library that you
> could call. I took that apart, and made a stand alone int24h handler
> out of it, which is what the obj file I posted is. Tom Hanlins is
> integrated into the library, can only be accessed by it's own routines
> and does nothing to help you with crit error handling. Mine does. Yes,
> it's based originally on his code, but it's no longer his design. We
> call this an improvement over the original idea. Read up on patents
> sometime. Same idea.


**** in hell what a rant! And
considering you almost had me convinced
earlier that this 10yrs old stuff was
of no significance to you. *ROFL*

>
> If you can still call toms and mine the same thing even after the fact
> one doesn't work outside the librarys own routines and the other
> doesn't work with them, but works independently, then you can call me
> a code ripper, if you like.


Plageiarise someone elses library
then pretend it's all your own work
then I think the name fits you well,
you back peddling tard.

>
>
> Now, if you really want to play code ripper games, everybody else
> besides the first person who wrote "Hello World" is a code ripper.
> Everybody who uses someone elses library functions, sophos, avg, you
> guys here me? , to 4Q we're all code rippers!


*HAHAH* Stupid smoke screen to hide
your embarrassment.

>
>
>
> And before you try tearing me to pieces in usenet, you best brush up
> on programming. String scanners and checksum based scanning are/is two
> entirely different technologies. Offly sad that you couldn't tell the
> difference.


I never gave a flying **** about your
16bit BugHuckster till yesterday. Now
I'm up for the challenge.


>
> Oh, btw 4Q, yes, I stalled getting your shell accounts to you, They've
> been online for 2 weeks now. *grin*.


You are either a liar or playing out
some kind of sociopathic loser trait.
I think we will have to get this into
you biography webpage... maybe I can
get some clues from Rhonda what it
feels like to be ****ed around by a
you a personality disordered mental.

Btw you weren't the only person I
asked about shell accounts. I even
asked MGL if I could run my infobot
on his server years ago... I even
sent him the code (ask him if he
will give you a copy -- real code,
not 16bit BASIC ****). Incidently I
can run the infobot via this HOST.SK
shell... Wasn't it nice of MGL to
set me up with the fourq site )

> I did lose the bet tho, I
> expected you would blow up and switch sides 3 weeks ago. hehehe.


Listen to yourself loser... Are you
sniggering in your mum basement
typing that out?

>You are, indeed, predictable. You can understand of course why HHI
> wouldn't want to help you now, right?


You are playing a little game in your
head that only you seem to be able to
understand.


> You can't be trusted with anything.


You are mouthing this out infront of
a mirror aren't you.

It's been fascinating observing you
over the years. I hope people will
appreciate my litle contribution to
show you off as an twisted exhibit.
Don't forget I still have the IRC
logs where you talk about having a
fantasy shoot out with the FBI,
telling me they wouldn't take you
alive. How ****ing childish can a
lame 16bit BASIC coder be.


4Q